Author Topic: Joystick not scrolling Mala menu? (Read 14750 times)

CM · « **on:** October 23, 2006, 01:06:47 am »

In Mala (RC8), if I keep the keyboard's DOWN or UP key depressed, the menu scrolls. However, if I hold the joystick DOWN or UP, the menu just stops at the next item.

I am using a PS/2 IPAC (keyboard pass-through) so the repeat (Typematic) should not be the issue. Never saw this before RC6...

Anyone have any suggestions?

loadman · « **Reply #1 on:** October 23, 2006, 01:28:35 am »

Quote from: CM on October 23, 2006, 01:06:47 am

In Mala (RC8), if I keep the keyboard's DOWN or UP key depressed, the menu scrolls. However, if I hold the joystick DOWN or UP, the menu just stops at the next item. I am using a PS/2 IPAC (keyboard pass-through) so the repeat (Typematic) should not be the issue. Never saw this before RC6...

Anyone have any suggestions?

Are you using the same keyboard mapping? I-pac does not do auto scrolling on all imputs.

From the website: http://www.ultimarc.com/ipac5.html

Quote

What about key-repeat (Typematic)?
In USB mode key repeat is supported as on a normal keyboard and is handled by the PC. In PS/2 mode key repeat is not generally desirable for gaming because sending unnecessary strings of key-presses to the PC can cause unwanted clutter on the PS/2 interface and steal CPU cycles. It is useful though to have key repeat outside of gaming, for example for scrolling up and down game lists in a front end. The I-PAC solves this problem by implementing a selective repeat on up/down only, for scrolling through lists. If you have a need for repeat on all inputs, this can be supplied on request.

CM · « **Reply #2 on:** October 23, 2006, 01:55:14 am »

IPAC jumpers are still on default MAME setting and UP/DOWN truly map to UP/DOWN when I test them.

loadman · « **Reply #3 on:** October 23, 2006, 02:36:31 am »

Quote from: CM on October 23, 2006, 01:55:14 am

IPAC jumpers are still on default MAME setting and UP/DOWN truly map to UP/DOWN when I test them.

I must admit I have not tried RC8 on my Cab (with I-pac) yet, but on my main PC in scrolls fine with the up/down arrow. I will try later

CM · « **Reply #4 on:** October 25, 2006, 02:41:35 am »

I've tested this in other FE's and apps, and the same problem appears there as well. Not sure what could cause this result from the Ipac unless the Ipac itself is going bad. (emailing Andy now)

loadman · « **Reply #5 on:** October 25, 2006, 03:01:37 am »

Quote from: CM on October 25, 2006, 02:41:35 am

I've tested this in other FE's and apps, and the same problem appears there as well. Not sure what could cause this result from the Ipac unless the Ipac itself is going bad. (emailing Andy now)

Sorry Dude I forgot to test it on my cab...

I just did then and scrolling works fine on RC8.

CM · « **Reply #6 on:** October 25, 2006, 08:43:57 pm »

Mystery solved ... Andy emailed me back and enlightened me. Older IPAC boards did not have any key repeat at all. Mamewah implements auto-repeat in the list by itself, so I just got use to having it. When I switched over to MaLa, the problem occurred.

My choices are buy a new IPAC or stick with MameWah for now it seems.

loadman · « **Reply #7 on:** October 25, 2006, 08:53:00 pm »

You could ask Andy if these cheaper upgrade chips will solve the problem.

http://www.ultimarc.com/JShopServer/section.php?xSec=5

Spartan · « **Reply #8 on:** October 26, 2006, 12:56:43 pm »

Quote from: CM on October 25, 2006, 08:43:57 pm

Mystery solved ... Andy emailed me back and enlightened me. Older IPAC boards did not have any key repeat at all. Mamewah implements auto-repeat in the list by itself, so I just got use to having it. When I switched over to MaLa, the problem occurred.

My choices are buy a new IPAC or stick with MameWah for now it seems.

DOH! I am in the same boat as you with an original IPAC/PS2 & MaLa and was just going to post the same question. Thanks for saving me the effort!

(I wonder if Swindus is following this thread............)

CM · « **Reply #9 on:** October 30, 2006, 11:47:43 am »

Quote from: loadman on October 25, 2006, 08:53:00 pm

You could ask Andy if these cheaper upgrade chips will solve the problem.

http://www.ultimarc.com/JShopServer/section.php?xSec=5

I asked and the $12 upgrade chip for the old I-PAC does have the key-repeat feature. I went ahead an ordered one

telengard · « **Reply #10 on:** April 28, 2007, 04:57:23 pm »

Sorry to resurrect an old thread...

I'm currently migrating my frontend setup from AdvanceMenu to Mala. Very happy so far. However, this scrolling thing is the only issue I have so far. AdvanceMenu must have implemented it's own scrolling somehow because it worked w/ my PS/2 IPAC. Is it possible to add this feature to Mala? I wonder if AdvanceMenu did it's own scrolling by handling up/down events?

~telengard

Bloodwyn · « **Reply #11 on:** July 29, 2007, 07:44:58 pm »

Quote from: telengard on April 28, 2007, 04:57:23 pm

Sorry to resurrect an old thread...

I'm currently migrating my frontend setup from AdvanceMenu to Mala. Very happy so far. However, this scrolling thing is the only issue I have so far. AdvanceMenu must have implemented it's own scrolling somehow because it worked w/ my PS/2 IPAC. Is it possible to add this feature to Mala? I wonder if AdvanceMenu did it's own scrolling by handling up/down events?

~telengard

Did the repeat key feature ever get added to Mala?

I just ran into the same problem as the other users with my Ipac 4.
Found this thread with hopes someone has come up with a fix since April.

Bloodwyn

swindus · « **Reply #12 on:** July 30, 2007, 10:42:29 am »

Sorry, still not implemented.

loadman · « **Reply #13 on:** August 12, 2007, 09:54:12 pm »

Quote from: swindus on July 30, 2007, 10:42:29 am

Sorry, still not implemented.

Katana Man · « **Reply #14 on:** August 19, 2007, 09:29:31 pm »

Quote from: swindus on July 30, 2007, 10:42:29 am

Sorry, still not implemented.

jasonbar · « **Reply #15 on:** August 21, 2007, 06:41:35 pm »

My MAME cab development has all but stalled lately, but I still browse these forums & my to-do list of neat features is growing, so that means my goal is getting farther away... :\

Anyway, from this & other threads, it sounds as if using a dial spinner is a good way to go for scrolling through games in the MaLa list. I've got 2 spinners on my cab. I should be able to set 1 up to scroll through game-by-game & the other to scroll through letter-by-letter, without having to worry about repeat & acceleration & all that stuff, yah?

Thanks,
-J

Katana Man · « **Reply #16 on:** August 22, 2007, 11:40:03 am »

Yes, a spinner certainly helps, although the current version does not spin through the list very fast. I wished it went as fast as I spun the spinner.

loadman · « **Reply #17 on:** August 22, 2007, 05:48:01 pm »

Quote from: Katana Man on August 22, 2007, 11:40:03 am

Yes, a spinner certainly helps, although the current version does not spin through the list very fast. I wished it went as fast as I spun the spinner.

Have you tried playing with the mouse settings

fatfingers · « **Reply #18 on:** August 22, 2007, 07:10:18 pm »

Or spinning your spinner slower?

Katana Man · « **Reply #19 on:** August 23, 2007, 11:34:02 am »

Quote from: loadman on August 22, 2007, 05:48:01 pm

Have you tried playing with the mouse settings

Yes of course. Even with acceleration enabled (9 or less works with v1.0 RC9), it's still does not come close to matching the speed of the spinner. After about 1/4 spinner speed, Mala pretty much ignores anything faster. If memory serves properly, Mamewah and Gamelauncher were the fastest with spinner scrolling.

loadman · « **Reply #20 on:** August 23, 2007, 07:11:46 pm »

Quote from: Katana Man on August 23, 2007, 11:34:02 am

Quote from: loadman on August 22, 2007, 05:48:01 pm
Have you tried playing with the mouse settings
Yes of course. Even with acceleration enabled (9 or less works with v1.0 RC9), it's still does not come close to matching the speed of the spinner. After about 1/4 spinner speed, Mala pretty much ignores anything faster. If memory serves properly, Mamewah and Gamelauncher were the fastest with spinner scrolling.

What sort of spinner have you got. I may have to get one and have a play

Katana Man · « **Reply #21 on:** August 23, 2007, 10:27:46 pm »

I use 2 SlikStik spinners. I love how you can use a jumper to designate X or Y axis. (Set them up like an etchi-sketch) This makes it easy to have 2 spinners working in MAME.

loadman · « **Reply #22 on:** August 23, 2007, 11:15:17 pm »

Quote from: Katana Man on August 23, 2007, 10:27:46 pm

I use 2 SlikStik spinners. I love how you can use a jumper to designate X or Y axis. (Set them up like an etchi-sketch) This makes it easy to have 2 spinners working in MAME.

Ordering now

Katana Man · « **Reply #23 on:** August 24, 2007, 11:35:14 am »

Now that I think of it, sure would be cool if Mala had the option to scroll through the list with 1 mouse axis, and page through the list with the other mouse axis. But I would settle for more scrolling speed

swindus · « **Reply #24 on:** August 24, 2007, 11:54:48 am »

You can use one axis to scroll one game or a page through the list when you use the MaLa 'Shift' key as described here: http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?topic=69744.0

loadman · « **Reply #25 on:** August 24, 2007, 06:31:22 pm »

Quote from: Katana Man on August 23, 2007, 11:34:02 am

Quote from: loadman on August 22, 2007, 05:48:01 pm
Have you tried playing with the mouse settings
Yes of course. Even with acceleration enabled (9 or less works with v1.0 RC9), it's still does not come close to matching the speed of the spinner. After about 1/4 spinner speed, Mala pretty much ignores anything faster. If memory serves properly, Mamewah and Gamelauncher were the fastest with spinner scrolling.

Oh yeah ....even this setting in MaLa ?

http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?topic=69744.msg712588#msg712588

Katana Man · « **Reply #26 on:** August 25, 2007, 12:29:10 am »

Yessir. Mine is currently set a 2ms so it reacts as quick as possible.

loadman · « **Reply #27 on:** August 25, 2007, 02:06:59 am »

Quote from: Katana Man on August 25, 2007, 12:29:10 am

Yessir. Mine is currently set a 2ms so it reacts as quick as possible.

bugger

loadman · « **Reply #28 on:** September 05, 2007, 08:58:24 pm »

Quote from: Katana Man on August 23, 2007, 10:27:46 pm

I use 2 SlikStik spinners. I love how you can use a jumper to designate X or Y axis. (Set them up like an etchi-sketch) This makes it easy to have 2 spinners working in MAME.

...I'm still waiting for my Spinner.. Sounds like a cool way to go through game lists. I may even use it for Games

And [edit] Katana [/edit] Man you should get yourself a Avitar... :-)

SGT · « **Reply #29 on:** September 05, 2007, 09:22:17 pm »

Quote from: loadman on September 05, 2007, 08:58:24 pm

And Katrina Man you should get yourself a Avitar... :-)

Katrina? I think while he gets his avatar, you need to get your glasses!

Joystick Jerk · « **Reply #30 on:** September 05, 2007, 11:18:45 pm »

Quote from: loadman on August 24, 2007, 06:31:22 pm

http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?topic=69744.msg712588#msg712588

I've had some scrolling issues in Mala as well. I can turn the scrolling acceleration up to about 10 or 11, and it works fine. If I set it higher though, It'll scroll through maybe 6 or 7 games, then stop until I release the stick. And 10 or 11 isn't particularly fast.

loadman · « **Reply #31 on:** September 10, 2007, 07:25:45 am »

Quote from: CM on October 25, 2006, 08:43:57 pm

Mystery solved ... Andy emailed me back and enlightened me. Older IPAC boards did not have any key repeat at all. Mamewah implements auto-repeat in the list by itself, so I just got use to having it. When I switched over to MaLa, the problem occurred.

My choices are buy a new IPAC or stick with MameWah for now it seems.

I just made a little Plug-In that repeats set Keys while in the MaLa Menu.

If you would like to test a beta version of this Plug-in PM me the key(s) you need repeated to enable scrolling in mala.

The keys need set are hard coded at the moment until tests reveal all is OK.

Thanks

loadman · « **Reply #32 on:** September 13, 2007, 07:49:07 am »

The test version attached scrolls the up and down keys. Well on my test bench anyway.

Please give feedback.

Ohh Yeah. It needs MaLa RC9 or above to work

Bloodwyn · « **Reply #33 on:** September 13, 2007, 07:19:32 pm »

Quote from: loadman on September 13, 2007, 07:49:07 am

The test version attached scrolls the up and down keys. Well on my test bench anyway.

Please give feedback.

Ok. Fired up my PS/2 Ipac 4 connection and installed the plugin to Mala 1.04.

It didn't work at first, so I went into Options and played a bit.

I found that I had to uncheck GUI/ OPTIONS/ Display delay (Scrolling)
Once that was unchecked I did get the key repeat feature to work.

Unfortunately, it skips 2 games at a time.

I tried changing the key polling to different settings and still couldn't get it to scroll one game at a time.

I was never able to get it to work with Display Delay (scrolling) even when changing the ms of the delay.

Its getting there. Just needs some tweaking.

Bloodwyn

loadman · « **Reply #34 on:** September 13, 2007, 07:28:19 pm »

Ahhhh.

Thanks for the tip on display delay

.. That explains the inconsistency on my Cab compared to the set-up in here.

Back to the lab

Good to know it's working with a Ipac4. I was using an older Ipac2 to test

The speed and amount of scrolling I knew about, that can be fixed later with some options.

jaquer · « **Reply #35 on:** October 24, 2007, 11:57:38 am »

Hey loadman, it looks like I'm in the same boat as the rest of the fellows with older IPAC boards here. I'm currently using Game Launcher and that must be setting its own key repeat. I'd like to add my name to the list of people hoping for a customizable solution. This really is the one thing that will prevent me from using MaLa.

Guys, if there's anyone else out there interested, please post here.

colonelsnow · « **Reply #36 on:** February 04, 2008, 08:39:19 am »

Quote from: loadman on September 13, 2007, 07:28:19 pm

Ahhhh.

Thanks for the tip on display delay .. That explains the inconsistency on my Cab compared to the set-up in here.

Back to the lab

Good to know it's working with a Ipac4. I was using an older Ipac2 to test

The speed and amount of scrolling I knew about, that can be fixed later with some options.

Did you ever release another version of this?

loadman · « **Reply #37 on:** February 05, 2008, 04:25:05 am »

Quote from: colonelsnow on February 04, 2008, 08:39:19 am

Quote from: loadman on September 13, 2007, 07:28:19 pm
Ahhhh.

Thanks for the tip on display delay .. That explains the inconsistency on my Cab compared to the set-up in here.

Back to the lab

Good to know it's working with a Ipac4. I was using an older Ipac2 to test

The speed and amount of scrolling I knew about, that can be fixed later with some options.

Did you ever release another version of this?

Not yet. I should pull my finger out

colonelsnow · « **Reply #38 on:** February 05, 2008, 08:50:30 am »

Quote from: loadman on February 05, 2008, 04:25:05 am

Quote from: colonelsnow on February 04, 2008, 08:39:19 am
Quote from: loadman on September 13, 2007, 07:28:19 pm
Ahhhh.

Thanks for the tip on display delay .. That explains the inconsistency on my Cab compared to the set-up in here.

Back to the lab

Good to know it's working with a Ipac4. I was using an older Ipac2 to test

The speed and amount of scrolling I knew about, that can be fixed later with some options.

Did you ever release another version of this?

Not yet. I should pull my finger out

thefunkygibbon · « **Reply #39 on:** February 07, 2008, 04:42:31 pm »

pretty please could you pull that thumb out

its the only thing that annoys me about mala, you were 99% there with that last file you put out, just the scroll 2 games at a time that was wrong.


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