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Re: Is Burger King trying to kill us????
« Reply #40 on: July 26, 2006, 12:48:03 pm »
Well, recently I did dig out the old dance pad for the playstation. I do go to the YMCA every once in a while, but when we go, it ends up taking up our whole evening.
I have tried going to the YMCA before work, but I am not a morning person and can barely wake up in time to go to work.

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Re: Is Burger King trying to kill us????
« Reply #41 on: July 26, 2006, 12:54:43 pm »
Chad, you blocked out the wrong part of the photo



Ahh, thats better

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Re: Is Burger King trying to kill us????
« Reply #42 on: July 26, 2006, 12:56:01 pm »

 :cheers:

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Re: Is Burger King trying to kill us????
« Reply #43 on: July 26, 2006, 12:57:22 pm »
Anyway, the statistical relevance of "look around" is practically nill. That is why statisticians and epidemiologists go a bit beyond that in their line of work. First of all, what you see when looking around is hardly a representative sample of Americans, and secondly, I don't see anyone posting any detailed data on the localized samples that they do come in contact with day to day.

In short, if there are no real statistics with any semblance of validity to back up your assertion that "most" Americans are fat; the "look around" "statistics" that you then pull out of your hind quarters are not going to cut the mustard either.

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Re: Is Burger King trying to kill us????
« Reply #44 on: July 26, 2006, 01:12:12 pm »
If you believe in statistics more than your own common sence, you have serious issues

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Re: Is Burger King trying to kill us????
« Reply #45 on: July 26, 2006, 01:18:13 pm »
Who cares if most Americans are fat... bottom line is it's their own fault, not BK's.

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Re: Is Burger King trying to kill us????
« Reply #46 on: July 26, 2006, 01:28:10 pm »

That's pretty much what we're all trying to get beyond MaximRecoil and head towards.

Personal accountability.  If it went into your mouth, you are responsible, having put it there yourself.

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Re: Is Burger King trying to kill us????
« Reply #47 on: July 26, 2006, 01:45:20 pm »
If you believe in statistics more than your own common sence, you have serious issues
You don't read so well do you? First of all, there are no statistics on this matter that are even remotely valid, so which statistics do you think I am believing?

Secondly, it is obvious that you have jumped on the "most Americans are fat" bandwagon, not because of your own personal research (if you have any personal research, let's see the data), but because of the crap post-1997 statistics that are floating around that are being trumpeted by media outlets. It is you who are believing [flawed] statistics rather than using "common sense" which should tell you that there is no relevant data on the subject, which is prerequisite to forming a conclusion. 

Third, I'll quote myself again:
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I look around and most people I see are not fat.
Now, in the manner that you are using the term "common sense", the obvious conclusion is that most Americans are not "fat", right? Of course, that is an extremely simplistic and innaccurate approach, just like your claim that 3 out of 5 Americans are fat when you look around (a claim that I find highly improbable) and it has lead you to believe that most Americans are fat.

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Re: Is Burger King trying to kill us????
« Reply #48 on: July 26, 2006, 01:47:55 pm »
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That's pretty much what we're all trying to get beyond MaximRecoil and head towards.
Why do you think that unsubstantiated claims ("most Americans are fat") should go unchallenged?
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Personal accountability.  If it went into your mouth, you are responsible, having put it there yourself.
I already said that in so many words:
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Is Burger King trying to kill us????
Oh, of course they are. I can't tell you the number of times that Burger King employees have held a gun to my head and forced me to eat there.

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Re: Is Burger King trying to kill us????
« Reply #49 on: July 26, 2006, 01:54:47 pm »
okok, lets settle this...Calling all BYOAC members who are old enough to remember the 60's...

Question: Are Americans much fatter today than 50 years ago?

Let the proof be in the pudding.

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Re: Is Burger King trying to kill us????
« Reply #50 on: July 26, 2006, 02:07:25 pm »

Someone ate the pudding.

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Re: Is Burger King trying to kill us????
« Reply #51 on: July 26, 2006, 02:13:26 pm »
First my walmart bread won't mold, now no pudding!!!! ITS A CONSPIRACY

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Re: Is Burger King trying to kill us????
« Reply #52 on: July 26, 2006, 02:16:31 pm »
I'm starting to get the feeling that someone's in denial about their own weight or something, because I really can't think of any other good reason for arguing about the fatness of America on the Internet...

Can we get back to discussing how delightful a burger with three patties and three pieces of cheese is... plus BACON?

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Re: Is Burger King trying to kill us????
« Reply #53 on: July 26, 2006, 02:30:54 pm »
God, I think I'm going to have that for lunch.

p.s. You can get it with four of everything

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Re: Is Burger King trying to kill us????
« Reply #54 on: July 26, 2006, 02:38:31 pm »
God, I think I'm going to have that for lunch.

p.s. You can get it with four of everything

I'm going to buy two of them and stack them together.
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Re: Is Burger King trying to kill us????
« Reply #55 on: July 26, 2006, 02:48:56 pm »
I'm starting to get the feeling that someone's in denial about their own weight or something, because I really can't think of any other good reason for arguing about the fatness of America on the Internet...
Are you referring to me?

LOL

You should call the crystal ball repairman.

But anyway, follow the money. This issue is very political and it is based on a farce.

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Re: Is Burger King trying to kill us????
« Reply #56 on: July 26, 2006, 02:54:57 pm »

Fat people are usually very lazy and very lazy people don't vote.

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Re: Is Burger King trying to kill us????
« Reply #57 on: July 26, 2006, 03:08:48 pm »
But anyway, follow the money. This issue is very political and it is based on a farce.

I finally come out of P&R and I end up posting in a thread that is apparently political.  Figures.

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Re: Is Burger King trying to kill us????
« Reply #58 on: July 26, 2006, 03:27:41 pm »
I do like the sound of 8 pieces of bacon, but MAN, that sounds like a whole lot of crap.

As for pop, I drink regular, cuz I too read the horror stories of cancer-ridden lab rats.  Plus, they once told us to use saccahrine (sp) in our coffe and tea.  That stuff killed my fish, my kittens and my grandparents!

Gimme gold ole sugar any day.  God bless bacon, and Dr. Pepper.
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Re: Is Burger King trying to kill us????
« Reply #59 on: July 26, 2006, 03:53:30 pm »
*cracks open a can of coke classic

 :cheers: To our health!

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Re: Is Burger King trying to kill us????
« Reply #60 on: July 26, 2006, 05:20:00 pm »
Lets look not at how bad the burger is for you (nothing is anymore) but at how gay their ad campaign is.  when i walk inside a burger king for some reason the sign "we manage your meat"  doesnt come off right.

enjoy that one.
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Re: Is Burger King trying to kill us????
« Reply #61 on: July 26, 2006, 05:44:04 pm »
Would it be gay if the BK staff was full of chicks?

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Re: Is Burger King trying to kill us????
« Reply #62 on: July 26, 2006, 05:51:35 pm »

Dude I LOVE the Stackers' Union commercials.

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Re: Is Burger King trying to kill us????
« Reply #63 on: July 26, 2006, 06:28:26 pm »
i just had 6 pints of beer and 2 big macs and 1 quarter pounder with cheese - I feel quite full and happy, although tomorrow I'm sure my heart will be trying to pump blood around my clogged veins harder than ever.   Ahh the life.

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Re: Is Burger King trying to kill us????
« Reply #64 on: July 26, 2006, 07:10:40 pm »
The BK stacker is GOD! I love it. I'm also 280 pounds, but I still love it!
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Re: Is Burger King trying to kill us????
« Reply #65 on: July 26, 2006, 09:16:15 pm »
How many people will order a Quad Stacker, King sized, with a Coke?  To satisfy anyone's curiosity, that's 1990 calories, 207 carbs, 101 total grams of fat (38 saturated, 10 trans) 2800 milligrams of sodium, and 240 milligrams of cholesterol.

What part of that is trans fat?  Trans fat only comes from hydrogenated oils.

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Re: Is Burger King trying to kill us????
« Reply #66 on: July 26, 2006, 10:55:13 pm »
Bun?  Aren't there trans fats in the bun?
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Re: Is Burger King trying to kill us????
« Reply #67 on: July 27, 2006, 12:16:58 am »
AAH! THE BUN WON'T MOLD!!! WHY????

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Re: Is Burger King trying to kill us????
« Reply #68 on: July 27, 2006, 12:54:19 am »
That burger looks delicious! I want one!

Your posts are always so concise, I love it.  Haha... that is all.  Oh, but... go burgers!  :laugh2:

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Re: Is Burger King trying to kill us????
« Reply #69 on: July 27, 2006, 01:26:49 am »
Bun?  Aren't there trans fats in the bun?

I doubt it, and if so, it's got to be negligible.

I'm thinking it's the fries.

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Re: Is Burger King trying to kill us????
« Reply #70 on: July 27, 2006, 07:27:38 am »
From where I see it BK is holding strong by not caving in while the other restaurants are chicken. 

See here's the whole deal on this "healthier choices" trend.... they were forced into it.  See this guy from my home state made a documentary called "Super-Size Me!" documenting the detrimental health effects of Mc-Donalds.  The flick caught on to the point that the federal health board started looking into it and McD's in particular got a TON of bad press.  Since McD's knew that the feds would make em anyway they decided to come out with a lien of healthy choices.  Their competitors played copycat and quickly followed suit.  Also the restaurants cut back on portions as well.

The thing is most of these "healthy choices" are cheaper for the places to make and yet we still pay the same price as if we were getting the standard combo.  Also while the portion sizes of the food have went down, the price has not.  So yeah they are great humanitarians by charging us 6 bucks for a super-sized meal that is actually the size of what used to be a large.

Also the argument is irrelevant in the particular case of McDonald's as all of their food, even the healthy choices are virtually inedible.  There isn't a real product on the entire menu.  Most are conglomerated pastes made of the waste material of the real cuts of beef or chicken. Also they are very bad about putting unhealthy artificial flavoring in their foods. The fries aren't even real potatoes!  They have some potato in em, but that is about it.  Their healthy choices aren't  healthy either.  They have less fat, but they also have the artificial flavoring and preservatives in them, making them too unhealthy to compensate for any nutritional value they might have. 

And on a personal note, McDonald's food is inedible, you guys (and by you guys I mean a large population of the world) must be addicted because nearly every item they have takes like crap.  I used to eat McD's a LOT when I was a kid but by the time I was 8 I got over it and never ate there again, aside from occasionally forcing myself when someone else with wants to eat there.  You only realize how utterly awful their food is when you stop eating it for a while and then try to eat it again. 

And don't misunderstand, I eat a LOT of fast food, but the difference between McD's and virtually any of the other joints is the difference between a prime rib steak and steak-flavored dog food.

Getting back on topic......

Wendy's has healthier food because they don't do all of that.  It's more fattening but that doesn't make it unhealthy.  Also they are very sparring on the artificial flavors and preservatives.  I think they use a little on the chicken sandwiches, but that's it.  Although since Dave Thomas died, the menu has really went down hill, mostly due to the fact that the menu actually changes now.  See Dave learned from the best (Mr. Sanders) and he knew that if you keep the menu simple then you can buy in bulk, which allows you to make a higher quality product for a cheaper price and you can strictly control the preparation and cooking process, thus making every meal taste good and consistant.  He'd literally be rolling over in his grave if he knew of these 30 some odd menu additions over the past few years. 

Now we get to Burger king.... they use the highest quality of meat, use all natural chicken, and fries cooked in peanut oil.  Also they are the only company that didn't make their portions smaller, meaning you actually get 6 bucks worth of food.  They have healthy choices too, but they have had them for a long time, and unlike the others they aren't trying to get good p.r. by blabbing about it in all their commercials. 

Don't confuse fattening foods as being unhealthy.  Unhealthy foods are unhealthy, fattening foods are fine, you just shouldn't eat a lot of them (duh!).  This recent trend of making sure everything is low fat and this trans-fat b.s. is media propaganda.  The danger in today's food isn't how fat it is, it's how fake it is.  The fake-ness also makes the food taste unnaturally good, which means we eat more, which means we get fatter than we normally would.  And of course the chemicals are very bad for your health causing side-effects too numerious to mention, the primary ones being liver and kidney problems.

With that being said, the reason you and your kid are fat aren't because the fast food industry is evil and intentionally want to hurt you (they probably are but regardless), it is because you don't have enough self-control to keep from eating at these places constantly.   

Finally I'd like to add that apple squares and salads for lunch are for girls.  I'm not a rabbit or else I wouldn't have these nice canines up front.  We are omnivores people, we eat everything... just don't go crazy.

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Re: Is Burger King trying to kill us????
« Reply #71 on: July 27, 2006, 08:00:05 am »

Dude, ANYTHING with 100+ grams of fat is bad for you.

And Peale, I'm betting there is trans fat in the fake cheese and bacon.

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Re: Is Burger King trying to kill us????
« Reply #72 on: July 27, 2006, 08:29:28 am »

Dude, ANYTHING with 100+ grams of fat is bad for you.

And Peale, I'm betting there is trans fat in the fake cheese and bacon.

*only* if they use hydrogenated oils in the process.  Bacon doesn't have it, neither does cheese.

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Re: Is Burger King trying to kill us????
« Reply #73 on: July 27, 2006, 09:07:04 am »

Yeah but they don't use cheese.  They use "cheese food".  And I would bet the bacon is at least half synthetic.

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Re: Is Burger King trying to kill us????
« Reply #74 on: July 27, 2006, 10:16:10 am »
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Dude, ANYTHING with 100+ grams of fat is bad for you.
Fat is food ("food" being defined here as any substance which humans can metabolize for energy, i.e. fat, protein or carbohydrates). Food by definition is not "bad for you". Now, the lack of food ... that is demonstrably "bad for you" in that it will prove fatal within a relatively short amount of time with no exceptions.

Out of the 3 nutrients which humans can metabolize for energy, fat is the best energy source. It has over twice the energy of protein or carbohydrates (9 Calories per gram for fat vs. 4 Calories per gram for protein or carbohydrates). Calories are a measurement of energy. Energy is a good thing. Without energy we die.

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Re: Is Burger King trying to kill us????
« Reply #75 on: July 27, 2006, 10:29:37 am »
Yep, calling something bad for you because of how fat it is is relative to your diet.

People get fat because they have too many carbohydrates, and as a survival mechanism, our body stores extra carbs as bodyfat rather than pooing them out. When we don't have enough energy in our bodies, we pull from that reserve.

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Re: Is Burger King trying to kill us????
« Reply #76 on: July 27, 2006, 10:36:40 am »
You can eat what you want, as long as you burn it off.  Now cholesterol and other things are going to be a factor as far as your overall health is concerned, but weight gain is a simple matter of calories in vs. calories burned.  Or as I like to call it, the Sit-On- vs. Get-Off-Your-Ass ratio.

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Re: Is Burger King trying to kill us????
« Reply #77 on: July 27, 2006, 10:49:53 am »
Fat is food ("food" being defined here as any substance which humans can metabolize for energy, i.e. fat, protein or carbohydrates).

I didn't say fat is bad for you.  I said 100grams of fat is bad for you.  It is horribly excessive and out of balance with what your body needs.  Any of the three major dietary elements (fat, protein, carbs) in excess is bad for you, with fat being the most damaging of the three.

100 grams of fat in a single meal is bad.  Pure and simple.  Doesn't matter if you add protein and carbs to balance it.  If you did that you would simply be making two days' worth of food into a single meal.

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Re: Is Burger King trying to kill us????
« Reply #78 on: July 27, 2006, 11:10:04 am »

Yeah but they don't use cheese.  They use "cheese food".  And I would bet the bacon is at least half synthetic.
They use American Cheese. All "American Cheese" would technically be categorized as "cheese food" (process cheese), but I don't think that is going to change the tradition of Americans using it on cheeseburgers, whether making them at home or eating out. Anyway, here are the ingredients for Burger King's American Cheese:

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American Cheese Slice

Cultured Milk, Water, Cream, Sodium Citrate, Salt, Sorbic Acid (Preservative), Sodium Phosphate, Artificial Colors, Enzymes, Acetic Acid, Lecithin. Artificial Colors may consist of one or more of the following: Annatto Extract, Beta-Apo-8'-Carotenal, Beta-Carotene, Canthaxanthin, Paprika Oleoresin, Tumeric Oleoresin.  Contains Milk and Soy Lecithin.

You would lose the bet about their bacon:

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Bacon

Fully Cooked Bacon. Cured with Water, Salt, Sugar, Smoke Flavoring, Sodium Phosphate, Sodium Erythorbate, Sodium Nitrite.


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Re: Is Burger King trying to kill us????
« Reply #79 on: July 27, 2006, 11:17:45 am »
I don't think McD's ever lied that their food was fattening.....  otherwise, Grimace would've been skinnier......

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