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2006 BYOAC Token *BACK* Design Thread
« on: March 29, 2006, 05:11:11 pm »
This thread is for the detailed design discussions and proposals regarding the back side of the 2006 BYOAC tokens.

They will be .984" tokens.  Submissions in black and white only.  White should indicate the lowest point of the token, black the highest.  If you want to show half-height details use gray.  So that those of us who are not Photoshop Gurus are given a fair shot , no 'blinged' renderings should be posted. (Bling refers to color, photrealistic renderings.)

Rules:
-No R-Rated material
-No trademarked or copyrighted images. (Pacman, MAME, etc...)
-No Bling - refer to the 2004 thread to see how blinged line art turns out.
-To avoid 'style clash' with the front, no BYOAC URLs
-If at all possible you should have your art in Vector format. (AI for example.)  Next best is very high-res raster (Hi-res meaning greater than or equal to 300DPI,) but I discourage it because we have always used vector with superb results.  Low-res artwork won't work, you will need to have someone fix it up for you.  Vector fonts need to be converted to curves.

 
If you are submitting what you consider your final proposal, please say so in your post so that I know to copy it into the 'executive summary' thread. Otherwise I will assume you are submitting it for group discusison and tweaking.
« Last Edit: March 29, 2006, 05:19:21 pm by Santoro »

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Re: 2006 BYOAC Token *BACK* Design Thread
« Reply #1 on: March 30, 2006, 11:33:30 am »
Is there any chance we can put a slight bevel on the edges this year?

Like a quarter or other coin currency.

I have a hard time picking up a single token when its lying flat on a smooth surface, like a control panel.  I have to slide it off the side or edge of the surface to pic it up.

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Re: 2006 BYOAC Token *BACK* Design Thread
« Reply #2 on: March 30, 2006, 11:35:17 am »
I can ask the mint.

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Re: 2006 BYOAC Token *BACK* Design Thread
« Reply #3 on: March 30, 2006, 12:14:20 pm »
here's a rough crude shot at the tails...

my skills aren't good but I thought I'd give it a shot.... I'm sure a photoshop guru can pow it up quite a bit....

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Re: 2006 BYOAC Token *BACK* Design Thread
« Reply #4 on: March 30, 2006, 12:45:08 pm »
attempt #2


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Re: 2006 BYOAC Token *BACK* Design Thread
« Reply #5 on: March 30, 2006, 01:57:00 pm »
I left the "No Cash Value" off this one...

we also need a good slogan for the bottom
« Last Edit: March 30, 2006, 02:28:36 pm by missioncontrol »

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Re: 2006 BYOAC Token *BACK* Design Thread
« Reply #6 on: March 30, 2006, 02:56:12 pm »
Here is one of my finished Token Designs. I have posted both front and back to both forums so that they can be viewed as one piece.

Hope people enjoy it. :)

Now time for happy hour!!!  :cheers:



« Last Edit: March 30, 2006, 05:53:35 pm by haldir »

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Re: 2006 BYOAC Token *BACK* Design Thread
« Reply #7 on: March 30, 2006, 03:03:17 pm »
we also need a good slogan for the bottom

How about "All your arcades are belong to us" ?

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Re: 2006 BYOAC Token *BACK* Design Thread
« Reply #8 on: March 30, 2006, 04:41:32 pm »
How about "All your arcades are belong to us" ?

That is hilarious, I would vote for that.
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Re: 2006 BYOAC Token *BACK* Design Thread
« Reply #9 on: March 30, 2006, 05:12:17 pm »
I would also like to add that the fonts on mine aren't set in stone... they are thrown there as an idea and place holder on the layout I chose for my design...

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Re: 2006 BYOAC Token *BACK* Design Thread
« Reply #10 on: March 31, 2006, 03:15:00 am »
we also need a good slogan for the bottom

How about "All your arcades are belong to us" ?

That would be cool   :) 8)
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Re: 2006 BYOAC Token *BACK* Design Thread
« Reply #11 on: March 31, 2006, 09:28:54 am »
FYI

anybody wishing to enhance my tails designs feel free to do so, I have very little photoshop skills so you won't hurt my feelings a bit......

and for those with very little skills who want to give it I try.... I suggest doing so... there are so many talented people here that can take your ideas further.

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Re: 2006 BYOAC Token *BACK* Design Thread
« Reply #12 on: March 31, 2006, 10:56:10 am »
we also need a good slogan for the bottom

How about "All your arcades are belong to us" ?

How about "All your games are belong to us"?
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Re: 2006 BYOAC Token *BACK* Design Thread
« Reply #13 on: March 31, 2006, 02:48:59 pm »
I really need to learn how to shape text  :banghead:



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Re: 2006 BYOAC Token *BACK* Design Thread
« Reply #14 on: March 31, 2006, 11:53:32 pm »
we also need a good slogan for the bottom

How about "All your arcades are belong to us" ?

How about "All your games are belong to us"?

No "s" on games

"All your game are belong to us"

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Re: 2006 BYOAC Token *BACK* Design Thread
« Reply #15 on: April 01, 2006, 01:07:58 am »
we also need a good slogan for the bottom

How about "All your arcades are belong to us" ?

How about "All your games are belong to us"?

No "s" on games

"All your game are belong to us"

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Re: 2006 BYOAC Token *BACK* Design Thread
« Reply #16 on: April 01, 2006, 06:01:33 am »
OK, here's a merging of my ideas..  I like the layout quite a bit..  Still not sold on the font, but that's easily changeable, now...

I made the lines on the 1-up men a little more defined because I was afraid it might be _too_ detailed for the coins..

Since feedback on the 'slogan' has been positive, I'm keeping it for now.

I'm still not sold on this being a 'front' design.  Especially since I like the idea of a cocktail (even though I don't have one..  yet...)  But I'm not sure what would go in place of the site name..  I'd probably put the year in place of the url..  Speaking of the year..  is that typically a front or back thing?  I'm not sure where I'd put it on this design, though...

Anyways, without further ado, here it is.  Please give me feedback!  I'm enjoying actually participating this year!  :)



Thanx!

This design is in the front forum, I think its more apporpiate here is back design
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Re: 2006 BYOAC Token *BACK* Design Thread
« Reply #17 on: April 01, 2006, 08:08:10 am »
my critiques for it being a tails design from the front side thread

jfunk... throw it up in the tails design replacing "Build Your Own Arcade Controls" with "No Cash Value" as for the URL replace that with BYOAC... I like your picture more of a tails design, but that's just me....


my opinion is the front conatins:

www.arcadecontrols.com
Date
and a catchy slogan

The back containing:

"No Cash Value" or "One Credit" or (something similar)
BYOAC (within the picture)
another catchy slogan or "No Cash Redemption"


but that is just my opinion and not set in stone anywhere....
« Last Edit: April 01, 2006, 08:17:18 am by missioncontrol »

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Re: 2006 BYOAC Token *BACK* Design Thread
« Reply #18 on: April 01, 2006, 03:09:14 pm »
The front design, IMHO, should really 'define' the theme of the token..  And, since I'm liking what I see in the front design thread, I've taken inspiration from a couple of the designs to see how the idea I'm working on would look..  So, here they are:

This one is themed off of Troz's cocktail designs..  I asked him which font he was using, and he willingly provided it.  THANX!!  This one doesn't feel 'done' to me..  I'm not sure I'm good enough in illustrator to do the 'hashed outer edge' like he's got in his 2nd design, but I think that would help.  The font seems to work pretty well.  And the dots between phrases seem to mesh..  Thoughts?



This one is inspired by the 2 great designs Haldir has put forth.  I had already found a font similar to the one he was using, so didn't need to ask him for it.  Haldir, if you don't want me to theme mine similar to yours, just let me know (especially if you're going to try a back design, too..)  I'd be more than happy to take it down.  I like how on this one the outer edge text is sunk in rather than standing out..  And the stars help it mix well with the 'front' side..  Thoughts?



I'm still debating on the 'BYOAC' text in the middle.  I like the 'No Cash Value' text where it is..  Maybe thinking of putting 'One Credit' in the middle on both designs.

Anyways, mainly, I'm just having fun playing and wanted to see how the design would work with other front designs.  I'm definitely thinking the front should be a picture of a cab..  And I really like Haldir and Troz's works, so far!

Anyways, I'm thick-skinned, and not a designer by profession, so any/all criticism is welcome!

THANX!

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Re: 2006 BYOAC Token *BACK* Design Thread
« Reply #19 on: April 01, 2006, 03:37:13 pm »
OK, seriously..  After this post, I'm done for the day  :)

Thanx to Troz (AGAIN!) I've gotten the 'hashed' outside edge..  Plus, a few other small modifications, and I think it's a decent 'match' for his front designs..  (Note, this isn't perfect by ANY means...)



Thoughts?

Thanx, again, Troz!

(I'm probably beating my idea into the ground, but it's the only 'decent' one I've got!!)  :)

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Re: 2006 BYOAC Token *BACK* Design Thread
« Reply #20 on: April 01, 2006, 07:35:37 pm »
outstanding job jfunk the only thing I can really say is that the BYOAC should bea different font and larger to really stand out....

If my designs are going to lose, I don't mind seeing them being defeated by a masterpeice like that....


o.k. guys keep them coming.. Themore competition the better.....

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Re: 2006 BYOAC Token *BACK* Design Thread
« Reply #21 on: April 02, 2006, 03:08:04 am »
jfunk,

Looking good! I agree the "no cash value" at the bootom is perfect. The slogan "replaying our past, one life at a time" has grown on me. Maybe try the same design without the "byoac"??

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Re: 2006 BYOAC Token *BACK* Design Thread
« Reply #22 on: April 02, 2006, 04:03:19 am »
jfunk,

Looking good! I agree the "no cash value" at the bootom is perfect. The slogan "replaying our past, one life at a time" has grown on me. Maybe try the same design without the "byoac"??

-aumameman



I agree with aumameman, as BYOAC will be on the front layout, could you show us the back without it to make us an opinion...

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Re: 2006 BYOAC Token *BACK* Design Thread
« Reply #23 on: April 03, 2006, 12:30:04 am »
we also need a good slogan for the bottom

How about "All your arcades are belong to us" ?

How about "All your games are belong to us"?

No "s" on games

"All your game are belong to us"

Perfect!

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Re: 2006 BYOAC Token *BACK* Design Thread
« Reply #24 on: April 03, 2006, 09:56:27 am »
I noticed a few slogans, so I thought I'd throw in two lines that I've used in recent months for RetroBlast and GameRoom ads:

"Reliving the Past, One Game at a Time."

"Build. Restore. Play."

I think the second is especially appropriate for BYOAC.

(I duplicated this message from the front thread, as it's more appropriate for the back of the token)
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Re: 2006 BYOAC Token *BACK* Design Thread
« Reply #25 on: April 03, 2006, 09:58:54 am »
I noticed a few slogans, so I thought I'd throw in two lines that I've used in recent months for RetroBlast and GameRoom ads:

"Reliving the Past, One Game at a Time."

"Build. Restore. Play."

I think the second is especially appropriate for BYOAC.

(I duplicated this message from the front thread, as it's more appropriate for the back of the token)

Nice, Kevin!  I didn't realize the slogan I [thought I] made up was so close to one you've used   :)  I think 'my version' is more appropriate to the theme I'm using, but I wouldn't mind seeing any of them on the final design  :)

Thanx.

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Re: 2006 BYOAC Token *BACK* Design Thread
« Reply #26 on: April 03, 2006, 10:10:33 am »
I noticed a few slogans, so I thought I'd throw in two lines that I've used in recent months for RetroBlast and GameRoom ads:

"Reliving the Past, One Game at a Time."

"Build. Restore. Play."

I think the second is especially appropriate for BYOAC.

(I duplicated this message from the front thread, as it's more appropriate for the back of the token)

Nice, Kevin!  I didn't realize the slogan I [thought I] made up was so close to one you've used   :)  I think 'my version' is more appropriate to the theme I'm using, but I wouldn't mind seeing any of them on the final design  :)

Thanx.

Great minds think alike, right?  ;)

And you're right - the "Replaying" works out much better with your artwork (which I love, btw!)

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Re: 2006 BYOAC Token *BACK* Design Thread
« Reply #27 on: April 03, 2006, 11:24:18 pm »






mmm i noticed the common in "replaying our past, one life at a time" could have a problem in mint. you think it would look like common or period after it's minted?
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Re: 2006 BYOAC Token *BACK* Design Thread
« Reply #28 on: April 04, 2006, 07:12:54 am »


Any progress?
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Re: 2006 BYOAC Token *BACK* Design Thread
« Reply #29 on: April 04, 2006, 08:31:46 am »
Will try soon..  Real life (3yr old, 1yr old, wife, and work -- not necessarily in that order) are taking their toll on my time  :)

Thanx for the encouragement and feedback!

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Re: 2006 BYOAC Token *BACK* Design Thread
« Reply #30 on: April 04, 2006, 12:41:43 pm »
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Re: 2006 BYOAC Token *BACK* Design Thread
« Reply #31 on: April 04, 2006, 05:36:26 pm »
I made a token. I like it, I hope you do, if you do, give CONSTRUCTIVE criticism, not  :angry: or  :lame: type comments. Please give REASONS, thank you.

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Re: 2006 BYOAC Token *BACK* Design Thread
« Reply #32 on: April 04, 2006, 07:53:24 pm »
Nice Star Trek font, but the text in the upper right area would be illegible, I would think, when made to scale.

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Re: 2006 BYOAC Token *BACK* Design Thread
« Reply #33 on: April 04, 2006, 11:50:46 pm »
not a bad attempt BenderTheGreat I have added my suggestions if you want to mess whith it some more....

I would  put the "All your" on one line above BYOAC...

the "build restore play" is to hard to read at that font but it could be the compression, try to arc it around the top....

Try to arc the "1 credit" around the bottom...

and maybe a background graphic (circles, stars or lines) to give it a little omph..

I like it as a simple tails design though.....

keep playing with it and try some other stuff....

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Re: 2006 BYOAC Token *BACK* Design Thread
« Reply #34 on: April 05, 2006, 03:03:13 pm »
o.k. here's another one with a better star pattern....

either my ideas are the suckiest of suck and your being polite by not saying anything

or

my designs are the shizzle and you are both awestruck and speechless


I'm going with the later one myself......


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Re: 2006 BYOAC Token *BACK* Design Thread
« Reply #35 on: April 06, 2006, 10:12:28 am »
Thinking out loud here...

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Re: 2006 BYOAC Token *BACK* Design Thread
« Reply #36 on: April 06, 2006, 10:18:31 am »
damn joymonkey that is a great start.... you may try to make the BYOAC more blockier to give it a pixilated look...

other than that I like what I see so far

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Re: 2006 BYOAC Token *BACK* Design Thread
« Reply #37 on: April 06, 2006, 10:20:03 am »
but wait, there's more!

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Re: 2006 BYOAC Token *BACK* Design Thread
« Reply #38 on: April 06, 2006, 10:24:33 am »
I may have to back to the drawing board now that the competition is stepping up

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Re: 2006 BYOAC Token *BACK* Design Thread
« Reply #39 on: April 06, 2006, 10:44:21 am »
One more on this theme.
One thing that might come up with this design; I know references to PacMan were removed from previous tokens for copyright reasons, but I think this Space Invaders style is generic enough to get away with.