just news

[ed12]

now i know we do not have a gamming news section
but here is why i do not like >ea< sports
saint sorry for the live link to >slashdot.org<,but i am in the mind all of us should know the b.s going on here
link >EA's Dungeon Keeper Ratings Below a 5 Go To Email Black Hole<
small write up
>fplatten writes "I would definitely call this unethical manipulation of the ratings system: the Worst Company in America, EA is routing all ratings made in game of 1 to 4 stars as an email that is sent to EA, but all 5 star ratings are routed to the Google Play store, where its rating is currently 4.3 out of 5."<

u need not reg but i beg u go to that link and follow the other live links
ea suck's

ed

[ark_ader]

now i know we do not have a gamming news section
but here is why i do not like >ea< sports
saint sorry for the live link to >slashdot.org<,but i am in the mind all of us should know the b.s going on here
link >EA's Dungeon Keeper Ratings Below a 5 Go To Email Black Hole<
small write up
>fplatten writes "I would definitely call this unethical manipulation of the ratings system: the Worst Company in America, EA is routing all ratings made in game of 1 to 4 stars as an email that is sent to EA, but all 5 star ratings are routed to the Google Play store, where its rating is currently 4.3 out of 5."<

u need not reg but i beg u go to that link and follow the other live links
ea suck's

ed

This is news?

[WindDrake]

This just in, EA still a complete ---steaming pile of meadow muffin--- company.

Haven't bought anything EA in years. ---fudgesicle--- them.

[keilmillerjr]

POS company. They are turning everything into a freemium model to get little kids to ask their parents for a password to their ios device and run up their parents bill. They bought firemint and ruined real racing.

[SavannahLion]

That would explain why their POS games are ranking higher than they should. EA has been ass raping every single game under their title. The freemium changes to PvZ2 was a bit of a shock and I've purposely shielded my kids from it.

There was a video not too long ago that illustrated the real problem best. This is a business model that is not going away. There is an entire generation of gamers whose first introduction to gaming is the freemium business model and the fixed ratings system. These are adults and kids alike who have no idea what gaming was like before this gaming hell appeared. They'll be used to paying hundreds if not thousands of dollars for what should never be more than a $19.95 experience. And $19.95 is being generous to those ---uvulas---.

[clok]

EA, sad how such a great name is MUD.  Archon, STarflight,  the list is so big..  When they said, FOOTBALL, we wont make the better game, we will just make it so nobody else can make a competing game (exclusive NFL licence)... And the Digital model.. EA started a digital store way back, prices where often MORE then in stores.. no bargains, nothing.. (i bought a few new games as I could get them ASAP (red Alert III was one i think)).  They didn't do ANYTHING to make it successful and it sorta just disappeared.. (thankfully i have a TXT document with my RA3KEY). STEAM comes along and makes a successful Digital service.. EA says that sales model Devalues games.. Then EA copies it, starts sales (and give away of games).. 2 faced is all i can see.  EA is just a business now.. plain and simple.. most game devs are.. but EA has skipped the "appear to care about the customer" part, where the others at least make it look like they do. heck I wont talk about the EA exec who took an Interview before  the MMO Star Wars game was released and said it was crap and wouldn't work ( he was fired).. but good  gosh.. right or not.. sabotage before its released, your own game? Quality thinking on that one.

Crysis 3, Dead Space 3, etc... skipped um all, Origin will not be on my machine. Sad to think.. I wanted to play Crysis 3 bad..

[thewisteron]

IMHO, there are some really good freemium games out there.  I play a lot of them (Simpsons Tapped Out, Hay Day, Deer Hunter, Sims Freeplay, etc...) and I have paid less than $20 for a LOT of gameplay.  If a freemium game is good enough, I'll pay.  But not Candy Crush...that game is evil and brilliant at the same time.

[thatpurplestuff]

Will never forgive EA for what they did to the Plants vs Zombies sequel.  Just give me the option to buy the freakin game... I'd be happy to spend $20-30 on the full game, but I'll be damned if I'm going to be nickeled and dimed.  Instead of $20+ they get $0 just out of principle.

I absolutely hate the freemium model but it's at least tolerable when you can unlock everything with a one time purchase... these games that charge you for lives and other temporary things are just gross.

[thatpurplestuff]

That would explain why their POS games are ranking higher than they should. EA has been ass raping every single game under their title. The freemium changes to PvZ2 was a bit of a shock and I've purposely shielded my kids from it.

There was a video not too long ago that illustrated the real problem best. This is a business model that is not going away. There is an entire generation of gamers whose first introduction to gaming is the freemium business model and the fixed ratings system. These are adults and kids alike who have no idea what gaming was like before this gaming hell appeared. They'll be used to paying hundreds if not thousands of dollars for what should never be more than a $19.95 experience. And $19.95 is being generous to those ---uvulas---.

Amen brother.

[keilmillerjr]

I thought that when Apple started allowing in-app purchases, it would be used to resolve the issue of developers creating a seperate app just for a trial version. Like the game? Spend $20 or whatever on it. Boy, was I wrong. Developers seem to have misused that privilege in my eyes.

PS EA has $100 in app purchases for fake game currency to advance in a crippled game. It's it legal? Yes. Is it immoral? Yes. It's a perfect scam.

[DaveMMR]

EA, sad how such a great name is MUD. 

Their games were solid back in the Commodore 64 days. I remember they used to come in gatefold record-album sleeves and contained all this literature on the designer/programmer, etc.  It's a shame.

(Same rhetoric for Activision as well.)

[Hoopz]

EA, sad how such a great name is MUD. 

Their games were solid back in the Commodore 64 days. I remember they used to come in gatefold record-album sleeves and contained all this literature on the designer/programmer, etc.  It's a shame.

(Same rhetoric for Activision as well.)

They peaked with Dr J v Bird and MJ v Bird.  Those were awesome games.

[wp34]

EA, sad how such a great name is MUD. 

Their games were solid back in the Commodore 64 days. I remember they used to come in gatefold record-album sleeves and contained all this literature on the designer/programmer, etc.  It's a shame.

(Same rhetoric for Activision as well.)

They peaked with Dr J v Bird and MJ v Bird.  Those were awesome games.

Yep.  Basketball games in general have been downhill since Dr. J and Larry Bird. I still play that on my Atari 800.

[Well Fed Games]

Will never forgive EA for what they did to the Plants vs Zombies sequel.  Just give me the option to buy the freakin game... I'd be happy to spend $20-30 on the full game, but I'll be damned if I'm going to be nickeled and dimed.  Instead of $20+ they get $0 just out of principle.

+1. PvZ2 would have done fine as a "full priced" game. Seemed like a really bad move to go the way they did.

[popsicle]

Freemium games in general are a turn off to me, mostly because I can't help but feel like the game design is an afterthought.  IMO, the best games reward players for discovery and strategy, and provide enough variation to keep them interesting to be played again and again.   I'm sure there are some good freemium titles out there, but it feels like cheating to me to pay to unlock material that should be rewarded to the player who spends the time to really learn and master the game, and this material should be there when I decide to plunk down $.

I feel the same way about collectible card games.  Ooh, look at my deck.  It's better cause I have better cards.  Pass.
       

[thewisteron]

That fact is that Top 10 freemium games make millions of dollars every week. Say what you want about the business model, but there are a lot of people out there that are enjoying the games enough to pay a lot of money.  I can guarantee you that if Candy Crush were a .99 cent game, it wouldn't be making $750,000 a day.  Freemium games are drawing better and better developer talent because of the revenue potential, so love them or hate them, they aren't going anywhere.

[ed12]

u got some balls saying that in a FREEWARE SITE.

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« Reply #16 on: Yesterday at 10:04:30 pm »QuoteThat fact is that Top 10 freemium games make millions of dollars every week. Say what you want about the business model, but there are a lot of people out there that are enjoying the games enough to pay a lot of money.  I can guarantee you that if Candy Crush were a .99 cent game, it wouldn't be making $750,000 a day.  Freemium games are drawing better and better developer talent because of the revenue potential, so love them or hate them, they aren't going anywhere.

HUM AND U DO NOT RUN MAME ?
AND OR EXTARACTED SOME OF THERE CODE ?
14 POST'S LATER ?

ed

[thewisteron]

Uh...ok. I'm not sure what to say to that. I didn't mean to disrespect anyone or this site.  I thought we were just having a nice discussion.

[DaveMMR]

I don't know what you're talking about ed12. What does MAME have to do with the freemium business model of modern day smart phone/tablet apps? Why does what thewisteron said 'take balls?'

Uh...ok. I'm not sure what to say to that. I didn't mean to disrespect anyone or this site.  I thought we were just having a nice discussion.

No disrespect taken on my end. Unfortunately you're correct - freemium games aren't going anywhere. It's a lot easier to get a ridiculous amount of money out of someone in bits and pieces than it is to ask them for $30 up front. Take Candy Crush - that game is designed to be practically impossible in the later levels without the special candy - and you have to pay to get more, because you've used up the freebies early on (and they don't guarantee you'll win.)

There are some good uses of the freemium model though. I have Pinball Arcade on my iPad and I can choose to buy only the tables I like instead of paying  for all of them (though I can choose to do so at a reduced cost if I wish.) Some tables are more expensive due to licensing (Twilight Zone), but that's the thing - I'm not paying for that premium unless I choose to do so.

[clok]

I hate it.. but understand it.. I play World of Tanks, vowed to never put a dime in. But I enjoy the game so i pay for a premium account.. (basically doubles the speed of leveling and getting new tanks), it does not make you better then others, just faster at leveling.  SO its hard to be to critical of the model, as I use it in ONE game. Much like WoW, everybody hates gold farmers.. "nobody" buys gold.. yet its estimated over half the accounts are gold farmers.. somebody buying it. As pointed out here, these game are successful.. somebody is playing um.

As a big MMORPG player i have a pretty bad taste in my mouth for the idea.. most of the FREE 2Play are .. in simple terms. you can play without adding a penny. But most punish the player with amazingly long grinds, block them from some content, etc.. They do all they can to force you to pay.  Designing a game to punish you for not paying is a bad model. be it making level grind out forever, or locking levels.. NOt a fan.