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Want a solution for running only Qbert on mame
« on: February 12, 2006, 08:37:33 pm »
I have been battling my Qbert arcade machine for about a month now, and am getting sick of it all.  I would like to set up mame to just run qbert and to boot directly to it.  I have an old pc here that i can set up for it, Can anyone tell me exactly how to set up the computer to run a vertical screen mame, with only qbert on it.  I currently have another mame machine running Gameex, and i love it, however gameex does not run vertical, and it is too involved a program for this cabinet. 

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Re: Want a solution for running only Qbert on mame
« Reply #1 on: February 12, 2006, 09:00:39 pm »
Actually, if i could have a mini game list, and have qbert, qberts cubes and congo bongo that would be even better (those 3 games all use the 45 degree rotated stick

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Re: Want a solution for running only Qbert on mame
« Reply #2 on: February 12, 2006, 09:03:08 pm »
you are running up the same problem ? I have.
mine is ms pac

I can get it to boot up but not flip. vert
« Last Edit: February 13, 2006, 01:31:08 am by daywane »

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Re: Want a solution for running only Qbert on mame
« Reply #3 on: February 13, 2006, 12:51:03 am »
I expect this would work: install DOS Mame on a DOS-only machine. Update the autoexec.bat file to automatically run mame with the command line set to run Q-Bert in rotated mode.

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Re: Want a solution for running only Qbert on mame
« Reply #4 on: February 13, 2006, 08:46:17 am »
to daywayne:
i just went and read your posts, yes it does look like we are trying to solve the same problem.  Let me know how you make out, i will do the same.  Email me at redfivexw@juno.com.

to Mario:

Any advice or how tos on the dos mame setup.  I can setup windows, and i can setup GameEx front end, and setup mame32, but i have never done anything with DOS, i dont even know where to get dos or how you install it.  But i do have a Celeron 600 computer here that i want to use.  If anyone can give me a how to i would appreciate it, or if someone has the skills, i can send them a hard drive and you set it up for me ;D!  I would be willing to pay a little for the effort.  This is going in a genuine Qbert machine, i have given up on fixing the actual electonics in it, it is too problematic of  a machine for me, however if i could get a PC in there and make it look original, that would be great.  So, what i am looking for is a selection screen that has 3 choices:  Qbert, Qberts Cubes, and Congo Bongo.  I would want the screen to be rotated vertically and just boot right to the screen.  help

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Re: Want a solution for running only Qbert on mame
« Reply #5 on: February 13, 2006, 08:55:33 am »
Hi ,

Let me propose you a solution.

How much memory you have on your celeron 600 Mhz? 

If you have at least 128mega , you can :
Install Windows XP
Install Atomic FE
Install MAME
Install the roms you want (here n Qbert, Qberts cubes and Congo Bongo)
Put Atomic FE in the start up folder.
Configure Atomic , to run directly the game you want (Qbert). (Atomic will run Qbert at start directly , and when you exit Qbert you will go back on the Front End to select the game you want).


If you have less then 64 mega of ram. Do the same thing but on Windows 98.

I'm here to help you to configure your machine if you go that way.











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Re: Want a solution for running only Qbert on mame
« Reply #6 on: February 13, 2006, 10:47:51 am »
I agree with others.  For one game just get a cheap pc, install dos (and the annoying sound drivers).  Actually, to make it easy get fraggel's boot CD, that installs everything for you I think.

If you want to use the knocker you can use qmame
http://members.cox.net/brado426/QMAME

Or go windows 98 (put mame in startup) and use PowerMame with the LEDwiz to drive the knocker.

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Re: Want a solution for running only Qbert on mame
« Reply #7 on: February 13, 2006, 11:18:17 am »
If you only want one game (or just a handful) than windows is a silly idea. 

Setup dos with arcadeOS.  There are options in AOS to boot into a game initially (without going into the aos menu).  Use this method and upon bootup qbert (or whatever) will be loaded and if you exit you'll get your list of other games. 

As for the rotation issue you guys really need to rtfm.  :)

-autoror or -autorol will do ya. 

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Re: Want a solution for running only Qbert on mame
« Reply #8 on: February 13, 2006, 11:35:53 am »
That's clear Dos would be the best solution. But as he seems to be not confortable with DOS , it is why i proposed a windows solution.

Dos confuguration is not easy for somebody who had never deal with it.

If you go to a dos solution ,to make your life easier, :

-have a real soundblaster card.  (or be sure to have dos driver for your sound card)
-not use USB device.



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Re: Want a solution for running only Qbert on mame
« Reply #9 on: February 13, 2006, 02:43:45 pm »
thanks so much for all the advice!  i have 128mb of ram in the machine, it has built in sound.  I have installation disks for win98 and win 2000 here that i can use (i have xp but i dont have anymore activations left :o).  Whatever you guys think is easiest.  I will tell you, i have NEVER worked in DOS, DOS MAME, or anything like that.  It is not that i would be adverse to trying it, however i would definitely need some guidance.   

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Re: Want a solution for running only Qbert on mame
« Reply #10 on: February 13, 2006, 02:48:32 pm »
If you are going to use onboard sound then go with windows 98.  On board isn't usually dos soundblaster compatible.  At least it will be a pain to get working in DOS.

Create a bat file on c:\ that contains
c:\
cd mame
mame qbert

put a shortcut to it in your startup folder and qbert will start.  Granted oyu will see windows for a moment.  If you do a search you should be able to find threads on how to hide windows.

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Re: Want a solution for running only Qbert on mame
« Reply #11 on: February 13, 2006, 02:52:32 pm »
PS- i did download Fraggles boot Cd, and i did run it, but once the main screen game on with ArcadeOS, i was clueless what to do next or how to use it!  If things are not laid out for me pretty clearly, i will get lost.  Getting the Knocker to work would be cool, i had no idea that you could do that!  My knocker is in good working order on the cabinet, so if i could get that to work i would love it.  What would power it, though?  I have several hard drives here at my disposal, when i get home tonight i will install fraggle's on one drive, and windows 98 on the other, i will then try what Youki said,  and also what the others said.  I am pretty sure i can get AtomicFe installed, running my need help.  I just want this to be as simple as possilble, i would like to press power on the pc (which i will wire to a push button on the front) and have it boot directly to a menu that just has the 3 games to choose from, then press the power button or use the controls to shut it down.  I dont want to see windows or have to use a keyboard or anything like that.  Thanks for the help, i truly appreciate it.

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Re: Want a solution for running only Qbert on mame
« Reply #12 on: February 13, 2006, 02:54:03 pm »
sorry, help what is a bat file?  I have only used mame32 and gameex so far.  i am sorry if this is basic stuff

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Re: Want a solution for running only Qbert on mame
« Reply #13 on: February 13, 2006, 02:55:22 pm »
I can add a soundcard if that helps, i have 4 open expansion slots that i can use, and sound cards are cheap (i probobly have one here from an old computer)

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Re: Want a solution for running only Qbert on mame
« Reply #14 on: February 13, 2006, 02:59:55 pm »
the Qmame links are dead, does anyone have this program?

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Re: Want a solution for running only Qbert on mame
« Reply #15 on: February 13, 2006, 04:04:49 pm »
well, you need to put the qbert rom in the rom folder so arcadeos can see it.  Then it will be in the arcadeos menu.

bat file is a batch file, just a text file with commands that ends in .bat.

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Re: Want a solution for running only Qbert on mame
« Reply #16 on: February 13, 2006, 08:34:59 pm »
I got my mspac up and going. Here is how.
I am sure there is a much better way and cleaner looking but this works good enough for me.
make a batch file ( note pad and save as qbert.bat)
C:
cd \
cd mame
mame32.exe roms\qbert.zip -ror -joystick

the -ror means rotate clockwise if you need the otherway just change to -rol

the -joystick turns on the joystick option in mame. ( even though I had it on in mame32's options . It would not work unless I started mame 32 first

put in startup folder

I have joy to mouse in startup 

mame.exe shortcut in startup
You only need to put mame.exe in there if you want to play other games other than qbert. ... hit escape and you have the mame32 menu you are used to seeing



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Re: Want a solution for running only Qbert on mame
« Reply #17 on: February 13, 2006, 08:44:56 pm »
Youki,
where do i put the GDIplus.dll file for windows 98?  i downloaded it and your program is asking for it, but i dont know where to put it...

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Re: Want a solution for running only Qbert on mame
« Reply #18 on: February 13, 2006, 10:08:01 pm »
Youki
i installed atomic fe, i also installed the plug and play, then i put the roms in the roms directory of mame (included in the plug and play).  I also found where to put the dll!  I keep getting No roms found.  help

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Re: Want a solution for running only Qbert on mame
« Reply #19 on: February 13, 2006, 11:33:03 pm »
Daywayne, thanks for the update.  I will try that if i cannot atomic fe up and running.

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Re: Want a solution for running only Qbert on mame
« Reply #20 on: February 14, 2006, 12:02:17 am »
Oh yeah,
tonight i set up two hard drives, one i used the fraggle boot cd and it has arcade os on it, it boot ups and shows the couple of games that comes with it, no sound, though.  I dont know how to get the games into it.  I also set up another drive with windows me and Youki's Atomic FE, i cant get that to work either.  I am willing to try both setups, but i need more help configuring both.   ???

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Re: Want a solution for running only Qbert on mame
« Reply #21 on: February 14, 2006, 03:50:06 am »
Hi Redfivexw,

For the GDIPlus.dll  , if you don't have it already on your system (should be in windows/system32) you can put it here or in the AtomicFE folder.

So describe me what happens when you load Atomic?  you downloaded the plug'n play module for mame?

When you run on Atomic , you see the Module selection layout , you choose Mame , and then you should see a category list , and if you select a category AND if you have roms corresponding to that category you should see your games.

Try to go in the Shooter Category , the plug'n play module should display  the Game Gridlee .

But in your case, you should'nt use that plug'n play module because you want only Qbert and few other. You don't need to categorize.

So , run the plug'n play manager , disable the Mame module.

Then run : AtomicManager , go on the Folder tab.  Fill folder entry  and Default Emulator field with your value.  Save it as Atomic.cfg , clique on "Set as STart up config".

Then exit, and run Atomic.

Let me know.



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Re: Want a solution for running only Qbert on mame
« Reply #22 on: February 14, 2006, 07:32:18 am »
When i lauch atomic, i am getting the screen that has the arcade game photo on the left, and the selection bars on the right.  The bar has "mame module 1" on it.  I press that, it says loading, then it says "no roms found" and "extension." cfg.  that is as far as i got.  I tried loading atomic on the old pc that i am using for qbert, and also on my main computer (which is much faster) and i get the same result so whatever i am doing wrong i am doing it twice!  I will try your suggestion tonight when i get home from work.  thanks alot!

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Re: Want a solution for running only Qbert on mame
« Reply #23 on: February 14, 2006, 07:55:11 am »
thanks.

I'm going to check that.  I have some problem with this module. I made it to fast..

If i find time, i will make a new one  better for you , tomorrow . And correct the existing one.

Just a question in what folder did you install AtomicFE?

Just in case, try to keep the default folder.

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Re: Want a solution for running only Qbert on mame
« Reply #24 on: February 14, 2006, 09:25:21 am »
Interesting thread.  I actually just got done building a Multi-Q*bert.   As far as games go, you can also run Mello Yellow Q*bert and the harder faster more challenging version.  I did not put Congo Bongo on it because you will need to add a jump button.  My computer is a bit faster so I went with the advance menu frontend and the latest version of Mame.  I did not install the knocker, BUT I did put a sub woofer speaker system in it and it sounds awesome when he he hits the bottom.  I was thinking about running PowerMame at some point because it has the Q*bert knocker thing included.   So can anyone confirm that Atomic FE can run in a vertical mode at 640x480?  Most of the other frontends require the video card to have rotation software.  This is why I went with AdvanceMenu, but I have been looking for other options.   On a side note, inside the Q*bert sound zip file is a WAV for "I'm turned on".  I use this WAV at start-up to make it sound a little more real....

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Re: Want a solution for running only Qbert on mame
« Reply #25 on: February 14, 2006, 09:30:08 am »
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So can anyone confirm that Atomic FE can run in a vertical mode at 640x480?


Yes, i confirm.  :)


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Re: Want a solution for running only Qbert on mame
« Reply #26 on: February 14, 2006, 01:04:14 pm »
southpaw - that is cool, looks like we are doing the same thing..  I did not know about the other versions of qbert, are they much different?  I would like any advice you have on this.

Youki - you are too cool, thanks again.  As far as installation, i think i just let the program decide where it wanted to go.   I dont question things that are smarter than me :P

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Re: Want a solution for running only Qbert on mame
« Reply #27 on: February 14, 2006, 02:37:28 pm »
Mello Yellow has a cartoon between screens (like pacman).  Harder Faster More Challenging pretty much sums it up right there.  Besides the difficulty going way up, the discs dissappear and pop up somewhere else....

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Re: Want a solution for running only Qbert on mame
« Reply #28 on: February 14, 2006, 08:57:40 pm »
Youki-
i did what you said,  i removed the mame module, now i do see the roms and they do play, however i cannot get them to rotate to play vertical.  I saw the rotate option in the atomic manager, but when i select it it just makes my computer hang on a black screen.  how do i get it rotated?



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Re: Want a solution for running only Qbert on mame
« Reply #29 on: February 14, 2006, 10:38:25 pm »
You can also try AdvanceCD if you system allows you to boot from CD.  Burn it with the qbert roms, and adjust the mame settings as needed.

It's worth a shot for a single download, it might just work out.

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Re: Want a solution for running only Qbert on mame
« Reply #30 on: February 15, 2006, 03:55:11 am »
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Youki-
i did what you said,  i removed the mame module, now i do see the roms and they do play, however i cannot get them to rotate to play vertical.  I saw the rotate option in the atomic manager, but when i select it it just makes my computer hang on a black screen.  how do i get it rotated?


Atomic doesn't rotate ROM for you , it is a MAME Setup not a Atomic one.

What you can do :

in the Default Emulator field on the folder tab , just behing the name of the .Exe put  : -autoror  (or -autorol)

ex:
c:\mame\mame.exe -autoror

this way assume that all your game are vertical.

you can do the same thing by creating or editing a MAME.INI file in the mame folder. and Putting :

Code: [Select]
autoror  1

inside.


if Autoror doesn't work for you , you can try  with ror, rol , autorol, autoror  .

If only few game are vertical and other horizontal.

create an INI folder  under the MAME Folder.

And for each game you want vertical create a INI file in the INI Folder, called  <romname>.ini  and put
Code: [Select]
autoror  1


Rotation option on the Front End, are just for the Front Itself.  It should not hang.  What resolution you used?























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Re: Want a solution for running only Qbert on mame
« Reply #31 on: February 15, 2006, 06:55:00 am »
I tried 800x600 and 640x480, both hung up

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Re: Want a solution for running only Qbert on mame
« Reply #32 on: February 15, 2006, 07:13:21 am »
hum Strange.  You tried with the default layout?

Can you do a quick test? Try in a 320x240 (or 200) resolution. (it will be ugly , but just to try).

May be it is a memory issue.  Are you running on 98 or 2000?  Have you other application running?

Can you try with another layout ? (for example the Jeston3 , you can find it on my website).

Thanks

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Re: Want a solution for running only Qbert on mame
« Reply #33 on: February 15, 2006, 11:11:37 pm »
I tried the 320x240 and it worked!  However you could not read the writing on atomic.  I put it back to 640x480 and it hung up.  I am using windows me.  What next?

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Re: Want a solution for running only Qbert on mame
« Reply #34 on: February 15, 2006, 11:58:28 pm »
Also,
i tried running Atomic on my other computer, and i thought i set up everything identical, but when i lauch it says something about not having full list.txt and needing to go to atomic config.  not sure whats up there

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Re: Want a solution for running only Qbert on mame
« Reply #35 on: February 16, 2006, 03:38:09 am »
humm...it seems you have a memory problem. Or a Win ME problem.. (i never tried on it).

Can you try , to put you windows ME in a 16bits color mode? (65535 colors)  From Control Panel , Display Settings , Parameters. And Try again?


Concerning the FullList problem , check the METADATA Folder on the Folder Tab.  Look in that folder , you must have a file called FullList.txt.     I think your METADATA directory is not pointing to the folder provided by Atomic.

One solution, if the 16bits thing doesn't work. Would be to make a nice 320x240 layout (readable).  I can try to adapt one for you if you want.


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Re: Want a solution for running only Qbert on mame
« Reply #36 on: February 16, 2006, 06:54:53 am »
I already tried 16 colors, that did not work, it still hung.  If you could make a layout for 320x240, that would be great.  I dont need any fancy graphics or anything (a Qbert themed layout would be nice, though).  If i had that, i think i would done.  As far as the other computer, i will try the metadata.  Once i get the frontend working, i think i will always use it! 

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Re: Want a solution for running only Qbert on mame
« Reply #37 on: February 16, 2006, 07:28:26 am »
Hi,

I'm going to make a layout for you. 

So, you will use it in vertical mode only ?

And you will run only : qbert, qbert's cubes , and congo bongo?

What version of mame do you plan to use?

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Re: Want a solution for running only Qbert on mame
« Reply #38 on: February 16, 2006, 08:51:42 am »
Hi,

I would need to know how is oriented your screen?   Vertical right or Vertical left?   

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Re: Want a solution for running only Qbert on mame
« Reply #39 on: February 16, 2006, 12:33:32 pm »
thanks Youki!  I will be running in vertical only, i will be running only the following roms:
QBERT
QBERT'S CUBES
MELLO YELLO QBERT
CONGO BONGO

The mame that i have running is the mame 32 that you had in your pre-made pack, i do not know which version it is but you must.  As far as the rotation, it was rotated Vertical Right. 

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Re: Want a solution for running only Qbert on mame
« Reply #40 on: February 16, 2006, 01:32:20 pm »
Hi,

This is a first draft.   Unfortunaly i'm not an artist .

I used a Marquee List ,  if you prefer a Text list instead , say me , i will do another one.

I don't know if you have marquees so i put marquees for game you want in a Marquee folder. you have to make point the MARQUEE folder in atomicmanager to that folder.

I didn't find the MArquee for MELLO YELLO QBERT , may be you can find it or do one yourself.

IMPORTANT: To Use this layout in vertical mode you have to select HORIZONTAL for screen-orientation. (it is because that layout is a "pure" vertical , not a horizontal rotated)

http://www.AtomicFe.com/divers/layout_qbert.zip

Feel free to modify it.  If Marquee are not enough readable you can replace them by a simple picture where you write the name of the game yourself.

Let me know.



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Re: Want a solution for running only Qbert on mame
« Reply #41 on: February 16, 2006, 02:27:55 pm »
SirPoonga,

This is a little off topic, but can you do a tutorial for dummies for the knocker in Qbert when you get it to work with LEDwiz.  i.e.  powersource, relay, how to hook it up etc.  That would be much appriciated.

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Re: Want a solution for running only Qbert on mame
« Reply #42 on: February 16, 2006, 05:33:34 pm »
I will give you the basic idea.

The knocker is 27VDC.  There is a 30V DC adaptor at radioshack.  Will need to add some resistors to knock that down to 27V.  The ledwiz's outputs are 5V.  So a relay that is triggered with 5V that can handle 27V is needed.  I posted the radioshack part numbers somewhere, on the powermame thread probably.  I plan on using powermame, as it will do the qbert knock if I recall, to trigger the relay via the ledwiz.

However, if you do find a qmame somewhere it uses the scroll lock keyboard led when qbert dies.  For that you'd just need a keyboard hack, unsolder the scroll lock led and attach the relay to the it instead.

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Re: Want a solution for running only Qbert on mame
« Reply #43 on: February 16, 2006, 10:48:13 pm »
Youki, that layout looks great! :D :D :D  And everything is working now!  Thank you so much, it is just what i was looking for.  Do you know how to make it so that when i exit atomic, the machine will just shut down, without going through windows?  also, is there a way to boot directly into atomic, so windows does not really show?  I am running windows me, which is almost identical to windows 98 so win98 instructions should work.  Also, i have a choice of either putting a computer monitor in my qbert, or using the existing arcade monitor with my pc, does atomic support an arcade monitor? 

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Re: Want a solution for running only Qbert on mame
« Reply #44 on: February 17, 2006, 02:49:47 am »
Thanks Sir Poonga,

I guess this will take some more research on my part.  To be honest I don't know what a relay is other than you need one for score boards and coin counters.  I looked at the Qmame site but the pictures are down.   

Right now I am assuming that you hook the Led Wiz to the relay to the powersource to the knocker.  I guess I'm still trying to figure out how the knocker worked in the original game.

This project is a ways off for me but I'd love to know more about it.  Thank you for your help.

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Re: Want a solution for running only Qbert on mame
« Reply #45 on: February 17, 2006, 03:29:50 am »

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Do you know how to make it so that when i exit atomic, the machine will just shut down, without going through windows?

Yes, i know..  :)

...

 ;)  Just run AtomicManager , and on the General Tab  check the check box "Shutdown when exit" .
(i hope it works under ME...it should)


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is there a way to boot directly into atomic
Yes, the simpliest is to put a short cut to Atomic in your windows StartUp folder.

The other way , is to put Atomic as Shell , but you need to modify system files,  and i think the first solution should be enough.

then it exists some utility to change windows boot image  and other stuff.  I don't have a name in my head but i sure if you search on this forums you shoud find something.

 
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Also, i have a choice of either putting a computer monitor in my qbert, or using the existing arcade monitor with my pc, does atomic support an arcade monitor?


Atomic supports Arcade Monitor if you use an ArcadeVGA or PowerStrip software or a Driver thats transform the vga signal to a 15khz signal.  The Front End itself won't make windows run at 15khz. You need a special driver, or a special video card. If you manage to have windows on your Arcade screen Atomic will work.

Did you find how to run directly in Qbert (or other game) from Atomic at Start up?
Just in case, it is on the "option tab". Check "Run game at start up" then check Radom game if you want start randomly on a game , or Specify the GameName .(give the ROM name).




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Re: Want a solution for running only Qbert on mame
« Reply #46 on: February 17, 2006, 07:06:00 am »
i have not tried to launch directly into a game, i love the menu screen that you made, i like booting to that.  I will try what you said about start up and shut down tonight when i get home and will let you know.  I am happy this worked out so far! 

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Re: Want a solution for running only Qbert on mame
« Reply #47 on: February 17, 2006, 07:15:25 am »
I'm just think , i could try to make it in a greater resolution (640x480).

Because the problem you had it was when Atomic tried to rotate a horizontal layout to a vertical position. The layout i made for you , is a "pure" vertical, so there is no rotate. It should work.

Are you happy as it is , or would you prefer a greater resolution?

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Re: Want a solution for running only Qbert on mame
« Reply #48 on: February 17, 2006, 10:26:16 am »
I guess this will take some more research on my part.  To be honest I don't know what a relay is other than you need one for score boards and coin counters.  I looked at the Qmame site but the pictures are down.   
http://electronics.howstuffworks.com/relay.htm
It's a switch, but instead of you pushing the button an electromagnet does.  For our purposes since the LEDwiz outputs 5V we need a relay where the magnet trips the switch at 5V.  You just have to make sure the switch side of the relay can handle 27V.
I attached a quick diagram of what I plan.

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The original knocker was tirggered when qbert fell off.  If you have the sound samples you will here the twack.

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Re: Want a solution for running only Qbert on mame
« Reply #49 on: February 17, 2006, 11:45:41 am »
Thanks Sir Poonga, that diagram was exactly what I was looking for.   I remember where the knocker was in the game, I just didn't know how the actual knocker component worked.  This project is still aways off for me.  But I may pm you with more questions later on if that's okay with you.

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Re: Want a solution for running only Qbert on mame
« Reply #50 on: February 17, 2006, 12:30:23 pm »
On the real game I think it just hooked up directly to the pcb.  But for the pc you need something to trigger the relay.  In my diagram it is the ledwiz.  If you find qmame you'd use a hacked keyboard's scroll lock led output.

Also note that that diagram is a working theory.  I haven't built it so I can not say for sure it will work as planned.  But it should.  And it will require some version of mame to output to the ledwiz when the knocker is suppose to knock.  PowerMAME has or is going to have this feature.  If not I will hadd the feature to PowerMAME.
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Re: Want a solution for running only Qbert on mame
« Reply #51 on: February 17, 2006, 12:32:08 pm »
Youki,
if you think it will work, a higher resolution would be better, the current one looks good, the marquees kind of break up a bit.  If it isnt too much work, sure.  If it is, i can live with what i have.  i appreciate what you have done so far.

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Re: Want a solution for running only Qbert on mame
« Reply #52 on: February 17, 2006, 09:19:14 pm »
PS- when i am in atomic, how to i shut it down?  I set the "shut down pc at exit" checkmark in atomic manager, but i dont know how to tell the program to shut down, other than pressing the escape key.  Is there a keyboard shutcut to shut down, or is the layout missing an exit program icon?

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Re: Want a solution for running only Qbert on mame
« Reply #53 on: February 18, 2006, 03:21:23 am »
but it is the ESC key that is the exit key!

When you press ESC you exit from the FE  and if the option is checked it will shutdown the machine automatically.

If you want change that key , use AtomicKey.exe to define keys.


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« Reply #54 on: February 18, 2006, 08:22:30 am »
OK,
but when i press the esc key it just exits into windows, and i have the "shut down" option checked.  If i am using only arcade controls, i will have no way to shut down the computer.  I will see if i missed something.

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Re: Want a solution for running only Qbert on mame
« Reply #55 on: February 18, 2006, 11:11:08 am »
I checked all the settings, and when i press ESC atomic does shut off, but then it just goes back into windows.   ???

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Re: Want a solution for running only Qbert on mame
« Reply #56 on: February 19, 2006, 05:07:24 am »
hum, surely a specificity of windows ME... :(

I will give you a solution on Monday.

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Re: Want a solution for running only Qbert on mame
« Reply #57 on: February 19, 2006, 08:31:48 am »
thanks, sorry about that, i thought me and 98 were the same.

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Re: Want a solution for running only Qbert on mame
« Reply #58 on: February 19, 2006, 11:16:24 am »
I have another question, does anyone know how to make the game fill the screen?  I am rotating the picture via atomic, but the image only takes up about 3/4 of the screen, i want to stretch it out so it fills top to bottom.  I have tried a lot of the settings in mame32 but have not found the right combo, anyone know?

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Re: Want a solution for running only Qbert on mame
« Reply #59 on: February 19, 2006, 12:00:58 pm »
also, the rom i have does not have qbert making his "swearing" noise,  has anyone heard of a rom that has better speech simulation?

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« Reply #61 on: February 19, 2006, 11:58:44 pm »
thanks Brad, i will try the samples out.

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Re: Want a solution for running only Qbert on mame
« Reply #62 on: February 20, 2006, 08:26:14 am »
Hi,

So for your shutdown problem.  Can you check if you have in your windows\system32 directory a file called Shutdown.exe ?

If yes , can you try to open a dos box and type :

Shutdown -s -t 0

then Enter.  And let me know, if it shutdows..


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Re: Want a solution for running only Qbert on mame
« Reply #63 on: February 20, 2006, 08:50:55 pm »
Youki,
it does not have the file, all that is in the system32 folder is a folder that says "drivers".  The dos box just said invalid command.

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Re: Want a solution for running only Qbert on mame
« Reply #64 on: February 21, 2006, 04:02:16 am »
So that 's the problem.

Atomic try to call API function to shutdown the system it works on 2000 and XP , if the shutdown fails that way it try to call the Shutdown.Exe  ,and usually it works under windows 98.

So would you have a way to find the Shutdown.exe of window98 ?  And just put it in your system32 folder?  I don't have win98 so i can not provide it to you.


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Re: Want a solution for running only Qbert on mame
« Reply #65 on: February 21, 2006, 08:07:14 am »
Yes,
i think i can get that.  I have windows 98 disk here, but i cant use it on the computer i have because i dont have the drivers disks, windows me auto installs all the drivers.  I can install 98 on another drive, then copy that file, then plug in the other drive and copy it over.  I will let you know if it works.

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« Reply #66 on: February 21, 2006, 08:08:50 am »
Ps - does that folder exist in XP?  my everyday computer uses xp but i dont see it.

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« Reply #67 on: February 21, 2006, 08:48:20 am »
This folder exists in all windows version.

May be it is simply the fact that your display settings are configured to hide the folder.

Open Windows Explorer, go in the tools menu ,  then "folder options".

then "view" tab , here there is a list of option and you should have an option like "Hidden Files and Folders".  Choose : "show hidden files and folders".


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« Reply #68 on: February 21, 2006, 11:05:06 pm »
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I ended up upgrading the computer to windows 2000 Pro, after the upgrade, the program shutdown with the pressing of escape!  So, it seems to be working perfectly now.  I tried to modify the registry so that windows would shell to Atomic, but it kept giving me errors (i have made other programs direct boot before, but atomic would not boot).  But it still works fine as it is in the startup folder.  I even changed the sound effects so that qbert says Hello, i am turned on and bye bye!  Thanks to everyone that helped, i put the samples in and now qbert talks!  Youki, you really went the extra mile answering all my questions, you have been the most helpful of any person on this board.  I am going to be ebaying the working parts of my qbert , i would like to send you some of the proceeds, do you have a paypal address i can donate to?  I am not a rich man, but i am happy to give you some of what i get from the parts sale.  Let me know.  I am going to be setting up another computer for a regular mame machine, this one will have thousands of roms.  I think i can do it now, Atomic seemed really daunting to set up to me before, but now it seems pretty straightforward.    thanks again for all the help, My Qbert will live again (i just have to move all the PC electronics into the cabinet, but i know how to do all that. 

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Re: Want a solution for running only Qbert on mame
« Reply #69 on: February 22, 2006, 03:31:52 am »
Hi Redfivexw,

Thanks.  :)  You're welcome.

If you want run Atomic as Shell , look here :

http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?topic=38316.msg347068#msg347068

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For the donnation, you have a "Paypal donnate" button on my website. You can use it!

Thanks a lot.


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Re: Want a solution for running only Qbert on mame
« Reply #70 on: February 22, 2006, 09:19:16 am »
Thanks Youki,
i will do that!  have a good one.
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« Reply #71 on: February 26, 2006, 09:47:21 pm »
On the real game I think it just hooked up directly to the pcb.  But for the pc you need something to trigger the relay.  In my diagram it is the ledwiz.  If you find qmame you'd use a hacked keyboard's scroll lock led output.

Also note that that diagram is a working theory.  I haven't built it so I can not say for sure it will work as planned.  But it should.  And it will require some version of mame to output to the ledwiz when the knocker is suppose to knock.  PowerMAME has or is going to have this feature.  If not I will hadd the feature to PowerMAME.

It does have this feature.   You just need to create an qbert.lsq file that fires a lighting sequence for the output wired to the selanoid.  I've been wanting to hook up a selanoid but for now just have a lighting sequence fire instead.  Video is if interested.

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Re: Want a solution for running only Qbert on mame
« Reply #72 on: May 26, 2006, 08:05:07 pm »
thanks Youki!  I will be running in vertical only, i will be running only the following roms:
QBERT
QBERT'S CUBES
MELLO YELLO QBERT
CONGO BONGO

The mame that i have running is the mame 32 that you had in your pre-made pack, i do not know which version it is but you must.  As far as the rotation, it was rotated Vertical Right. 

Just a quick thought...I could only get my vertical screen running correctly if I used the command line version of MAME.
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