Author Topic: Naki Wireless Ultimate - FINISHED MOD UPDATE 1/12/06 (Read 14871 times)

MameMaster! · « **Reply #40 on:** January 12, 2006, 08:45:32 pm »

This is the mounting board I made. You really need this to stabilize the joystick. You'll note that the screws on the left and right don't go all the way in....that's because I'm using the original joys screws. I have to either trim them or put in a couple of washers. For now there no movement at all and it seems solid. I'll get around to fixing that.

If it gets loose I can always add a few more screws through the Sanwa mounting holes into my wood pieces. But the joystick is super smooth and I have a feeling what I did will out last my interest in using the stick itself!

MameMaster! · « **Reply #41 on:** January 12, 2006, 08:46:17 pm »

final

MameMaster! · « **Reply #42 on:** January 12, 2006, 08:47:55 pm »

final close up.

I hope this thread helps. This was definitely worth the time and effort for a real arcade wireless joy for PS2 & XBox.

Lilwolf · « **Reply #43 on:** January 13, 2006, 06:40:19 am »

Oh, I understand the xbox should work.

But I'm still questioning the differences between the ps2 connection (on a ps2) and the ps2 connection though the converter. If its a voltage difference, there is something we can do about it.

I'll buy a xbox converter if it will work.

Quote from: versapak on January 12, 2006, 04:15:30 pm

Quote from: Lilwolf on January 12, 2006, 03:48:21 pm
That said, I would have guessed the same for the PS2 since the protocol is pretty set in stone.

adonis_minus_20 · « **Reply #44 on:** January 13, 2006, 08:34:24 am »

Very nicely done MameMaster

MameMaster! · « **Reply #45 on:** January 13, 2006, 09:08:33 am »

....too bad I didn't see that on their website...oh well. Thankfully what I did worked fine. Thanks again for your suggestion of the Sanwa!

MameMaster! · « **Reply #46 on:** January 13, 2006, 09:21:45 am »

Hey Jim you mentioned---

For those looking to use XBox->USB adapters, you can't. The problem is, at least for the adapters that I have, is that they require an XBox controller that has the disconnect thing on the controller cable to work, and as the Naki does not have a disconnect for its' XBox connector, the Naki can't be used with the adapter. You could always hack the connector on the Naki in order to do this, but I don't really care to use it on the PC anyway.

couldn't you get around that using an Xbox extension cord? like the one below? That way you can plug the Naki gadget into the extension cord giving you access to the quick disconnect you need.

You may have to splice open the Xbox plug from the Naki and graft it onto the quick disconnect cord but that should be easy.

wouldn't that work?

versapak · « **Reply #47 on:** January 13, 2006, 09:35:03 am »

Quote from: adonis_minus_20 on January 13, 2006, 08:34:24 am

For those looking to use XBox->USB adapters, you can't.

adonis_minus_20 · « **Reply #48 on:** January 13, 2006, 10:30:39 am »

Yeah, that would work, that's what I was saying you would need to do, I don't really care about using it on the PC, I was just trying to see for others on here, if the adapter would work with it.

Versapak: Yeah, I know you can make an adapter easily enough, thanks for posting the information.

Lilwolf · « **Reply #49 on:** January 14, 2006, 06:49:37 am »

Is this a definate or a probably? I don't know if others have been solved this way?

Trouble I have is I got special manager permission to buy it and return it knowing what I was going to do with it (try it on a non-supported platform). I don't believe I could get him to return it again..

And I have no use for it since I don't have an xbox or a ps2. But buying an xbox cable extension and and a cable hack seems fine with me.

Anyone willing to trash a xbox extension and an extra usb cable to make sure it works? I'm not sure if I am. I have enought items around here that my wife bitches I don't use... because it 'should' work... then I find out its a pain in the butt to get working

versapak · « **Reply #50 on:** January 14, 2006, 08:37:31 am »

Quote from: Lilwolf on January 14, 2006, 06:49:37 am

Is this a definate or a probably? I don't know if others have been solved this way?

Trouble I have is I got special manager permission to buy it and return it knowing what I was going to do with it (try it on a non-supported platform). I don't believe I could get him to return it again..

And I have no use for it since I don't have an xbox or a ps2. But buying an xbox cable extension and and a cable hack seems fine with me.

Anyone willing to trash a xbox extension and an extra usb cable to make sure it works? I'm not sure if I am. I have enought items around here that my wife bitches I don't use... because it 'should' work... then I find out its a pain in the butt to get working

You wouldn't need an Xbox extension at all. Just need the controller and a regular USB extension cable.

If I wasn't already up to my teeth in Xbox controllers, I'd get one myself, but yeah... Wife isn't gonna go for it as is.

Lilwolf · « **Reply #51 on:** January 15, 2006, 12:49:01 pm »

the xbox controller would be for the female side. So you don't have to wreck the original.

I'm still tempted to buy it... even without a return option. And hope that I can either resell it or just use it as a 35 box to hold a hack.

btw, the cable coming off the end is pretty small. I found it annoying already. So having the converter being a 6" extension might be nice.

But to the people who know what they where talking about (I've never heard about the differences between xbox's usb and PC usbs). Should this really be it? I know you can't confirm it unless someone does it themself... but should this cause the problem? And therefor solve it?

versapak · « **Reply #52 on:** January 15, 2006, 01:23:04 pm »

Quote from: Lilwolf on January 15, 2006, 12:49:01 pm

the xbox controller would be for the female side. So you don't have to wreck the original.

I'm still tempted to buy it... even without a return option. And hope that I can either resell it or just use it as a 35 box to hold a hack.

btw, the cable coming off the end is pretty small. I found it annoying already. So having the converter being a 6" extension might be nice.

But to the people who know what they where talking about (I've never heard about the differences between xbox's usb and PC usbs). Should this really be it? I know you can't confirm it unless someone does it themself... but should this cause the problem? And therefor solve it?

Your post didn't make all that much sense to me, but...

Take the receiver piece that plugs into the Xbox. Cut it so you have some cable to play with on boths halves.

Take a USB extension cable. Cut it in half.

Connect the half of the USB cable, with the male end, to the cable connected to the receiver. This is the only step you need to do if your sole intention is using the controller on PC.

If you would like to keep Xbox functionality though...

Connect the half of the USB cable, with the female end, to the cable connected to the Xbox plug.

For the PC, you will need a driver. You can find one here:
http://www.redcl0ud.com/xbcd.html

I do know what I am talking about, and have modded several Xbox controllers for the PC (both wireless & not).

MameMaster! · « **Reply #53 on:** January 18, 2006, 12:44:29 pm »

neat. someone modded my thread fixing my giant photos. How did you do that? ...and how can I do it in the future?

Lilwolf · « **Reply #54 on:** January 18, 2006, 12:57:37 pm »

What I was talking about is you get the xbox extension cable so you don't have to modify the original at all.

And cool! it SHOULD work right! I might just buy it back then and try it. I don't mind trying to hack it, but I don't have a use if the hack doesn't work and I'm stuck with it PS2 or XBox since I don't own either.

Quote from: versapak on January 15, 2006, 01:23:04 pm

Quote from: Lilwolf on January 15, 2006, 12:49:01 pm
the xbox controller would be for the female side. So you don't have to wreck the original.

I'm still tempted to buy it... even without a return option. And hope that I can either resell it or just use it as a 35 box to hold a hack.

btw, the cable coming off the end is pretty small. I found it annoying already. So having the converter being a 6" extension might be nice.

But to the people who know what they where talking about (I've never heard about the differences between xbox's usb and PC usbs). Should this really be it? I know you can't confirm it unless someone does it themself... but should this cause the problem? And therefor solve it?

Your post didn't make all that much sense to me, but...

Take the receiver piece that plugs into the Xbox. Cut it so you have some cable to play with on boths halves.

Take a USB extension cable. Cut it in half.

Connect the half of the USB cable, with the male end, to the cable connected to the receiver. This is the only step you need to do if your sole intention is using the controller on PC.

If you would like to keep Xbox functionality though...

Connect the half of the USB cable, with the female end, to the cable connected to the Xbox plug.

For the PC, you will need a driver. You can find one here:
http://www.redcl0ud.com/xbcd.html

I do know what I am talking about, and have modded several Xbox controllers for the PC (both wireless & not).

versapak · « **Reply #55 on:** January 18, 2006, 01:55:17 pm »

Quote from: Lilwolf on January 18, 2006, 12:57:37 pm

What I was talking about is you get the xbox extension cable so you don't have to modify the original at all.

And cool! it SHOULD work right! I might just buy it back then and try it. I don't mind trying to hack it, but I don't have a use if the hack doesn't work and I'm stuck with it PS2 or XBox since I don't own either.

I see what you are saying. The only problem with that is finding an Xbox extension cord that has the female xbox plug, and not the usual breakaway connection.

I do actually have a couple of those, and one of them modded for use on PC, for exactly the reason you mention.

That being said...

The ones I have are Gamester extension cables, and they have both the fat Xbox plug and the breakaway plug. I bought them at CompUSA (the only place I ever found em local), and they no longer carry em.

If not modding the controller itself is a concern, then can buy Xbox->PC adapters online that have the female xbox jacks. Lik-sang.com sells some that even have multiple ports on them (Basically a standard USB hub with Xbox jacks instead of standard USB).

Lilwolf · « **Reply #56 on:** January 19, 2006, 09:28:48 am »

I know I know... beating a dead horse here...

but will all the xbox -> usb adapters work? and are they really just that easy of a cable hack?

they have some on ebay for a few bucks that I might get. Or will some not take into effect that extra connection your talking about?

versapak · « **Reply #57 on:** January 19, 2006, 10:42:36 am »

Quote from: Lilwolf on January 19, 2006, 09:28:48 am

I know I know... beating a dead horse here...

but will all the xbox -> usb adapters work? and are they really just that easy of a cable hack?

they have some on ebay for a few bucks that I might get. Or will some not take into effect that extra connection your talking about?

They should all work just fine, and yep, it really is just that easy of a cable hack.

The only thing you have to make sure of is that it has the right kind of port for you to plug into. Being that the controller doesn't have a breakaway on it, you would need one that allows you to plug in a full size Xbox plug (unless you want to hack the cable of the actual controller receiver, but we already established that you did not).

MarkMan · « **Reply #58 on:** January 19, 2006, 07:38:52 pm »

Just wanted to comment on the mods of this stick, they look awesome!

Always wondered, how was the lag on the stick/if any?

adonis_minus_20 · « **Reply #59 on:** January 19, 2006, 08:29:31 pm »

Quote from: MarkMan on January 19, 2006, 07:38:52 pm

Just wanted to comment on the mods of this stick, they look awesome!

Always wondered, how was the lag on the stick/if any?

Thank you for the nice comments on behalf of myself and MameMaster

Lilwolf · « **Reply #60 on:** January 22, 2006, 06:43:04 pm »

Well, just went and repurchased it...

have a cable to hack it (and not going with the extension... just hooking it up) Hopefully both wires are color coded just right. I'll look at the old posts about the break away to see what I have to do with that.

Anyway, hopefully tomorrow I will have time to hack it tomorrow... too busy today.

versapak · « **Reply #61 on:** January 23, 2006, 08:31:28 am »

Standing behind and above the plug, as you are plugging it into the Xbox, the colors would be (from left to right):

1 - Red (+5v)
2 - White (D-)
3 - Green (D+)
4 - Yellow (For Xbox Lightgun use, and not connected for standard USB conversion)
5 - Black (Ground)

In case the colors are odd on the Naki, the above info should give you wha tyou need to decode their "real" color.

Lilwolf · « **Reply #62 on:** January 23, 2006, 01:00:13 pm »

so don't connect the yellow then. Cool!

I was going to look around for a website later today. But this is probably all I need.

THANKS for all your input!

Lilwolf · « **Reply #63 on:** January 25, 2006, 07:39:28 am »

Works GREAT! finally finished it this morning as I was waiting for my carpool. Started cutting the wires last night, but had to put the kids to bed before I could finish everything.

Things to note. They DONT use normal color wires AND they have EXTRA wires not being used (

?). So I had to rip the end off to see which where soldiered in. This was pretty easy to do (crappy end on the xbox side).

Also, you need good light to tell the difference. They are like dark green (not used) and dark blue (used). Black was white, Brown was green and Blue was black... (red was red) I'm pretty sure (DOUBLE CHECK IT YOURSELF). Of course I already heat shrank it before shooting any pictures off... sorry if anyone cared.

But easy and works well through the xbox connection (not ps2).
I cant tell any ghosting at all. Super uppercuts without troubles.

Only trouble I had was r2 button doesn't work. I'm assuming this is why it was returned to the place I bought it (I got it for a song because the box was trashed). But that should be fixed a few seconds after I open it up.

Now...

replace all the buttons

then

replace the joystick

HEY... THANKS FOR ALL THE HELP! If it wasn't for the help, I wouldn't have bought it twice and have the starting of the ultimate gaming for my work pc!

versapak · « **Reply #64 on:** January 25, 2006, 09:25:40 am »

I never had any doubts it would work, but still, I'm glad to see it is finally a 100% sure thing.

They had extra wires actually running all the way to the Xbox plug, but not connected? That is odd.

or

Was it just the wires that go to the PS2 plug, and you cut before the split?

Lilwolf · « **Reply #65 on:** January 25, 2006, 11:11:23 am »

I didn't follow them back to see if they are in the ps2 side also.

I just cut the wires close to the end... stripped it... and started to get a bit worried.

MameMaster! · « **Reply #66 on:** January 26, 2006, 05:28:11 pm »

Quote from: adonis_minus_20 on January 19, 2006, 08:29:31 pm

Quote from: MarkMan on January 19, 2006, 07:38:52 pm
Just wanted to comment on the mods of this stick, they look awesome!

Always wondered, how was the lag on the stick/if any?

Thank you for the nice comments on behalf of myself and MameMaster

MameMaster! · « **Reply #67 on:** January 26, 2006, 05:30:12 pm »

I'm glad i started this thread!......this was a true collaboration!

DarkBubble · « **Reply #68 on:** February 02, 2006, 05:34:44 pm »

I went to the shop that had two of the Naki sticks a few weekends back and they had sold them. Guess I need to buy a working adapter and hack a PS1 pad, because I'm not about to pay $60 for the Capcom Street Fighter Anniversary stick.


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Author Topic: Naki Wireless Ultimate - FINISHED MOD UPDATE 1/12/06 (Read 14871 times)

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