Onboard video with hardware stretch?

[Sam66]

I'm looking for a new motherboard with built in video.  I have one already with an SIS chipset and it won't support the 'use hardware to stretch' setting in mame.

It works fine if I use a separate video card but I don't really have the space to do it this way.

So, my question is, can someone list some built in video chipsets which they know can run mame using the hardware stretch?

[Sam66]

Forgot to mention, I'm running XP on a PC monitor.  Although I guess it doesn't change my original question : )

[SNAAAKE]

heh

i dont think any board with onboard video would do it as i tried only 2 different.EPOX and GIGABYTE and non did hardware stretch.I might be wrong but just so you know .

[Sam66]

Well, I have a shuttle SS51 with onboard video as my desktop and that works fine (supports hardware stretch).

I don't really want to have to rip the guts out of that though : )

There must be others ?

[spidermonkey]

If you have a Pentium chipset then go to the Intel download center and download the latest drivers for your onboard video. Go into your control panel and find out what chipset you have because the Intel site will ask you the model # of your graphics controller so that it can search for the latest drivers for your particular system. I did this and my "stretch hardware" button is no longer grayed out.

[Sam66]

spidermonkey, Thanks for the reply.

I'm running an AMD XP1200 on that board and I've already downloaded the latest video drivers - it didn't help : (

[spidermonkey]

I got mine to display full screen on horizontal games but if its a fairly new game and I stretch the hardware the game runs sloooow. My old pc (which is in my cab) is a 450 mhz pentium II has an old Nvidia diamond viper card and when in hardware stretch mode the thing runs newer games MUCH better then my new computer !  I hate my new computer and I HATE ONBOARD GRAPHICS CONTROLLERS !! They suck. It was 1 month old when I bought it from a friend for 1/2 the price he paid for it. Good deal I guess but the friggen thing runs Mame horribly

[Sam66]

Onboard does generally suck, but I thought I'd get away with it for mame.

The board cost me

[eightbit]

Why go onboard at all? Is space a problem? Just disable the onboard you have and plug in a real video card.

[tom61]

Since you have a socket A proc, I'd try an NForce or NForce2 based motherboard. I haven't tried it personally, but it more or less has a built-in Geforce 3, which can do hardware stretch.

[Sam66]

eightbit: Yep space is a bit of a problem, I'm building a cocktail and it's a bit of a tight squeeze.  I do have an ATI card which I've plugged in, it works fine, but sticks out too much : (

tom61: The proc I have is soldered to the board : (  so I'm looking at getting another one if I get a new board.  Probably I'll go for AMD due to price but I could get an Intel, so any ideas would be helpful.

I'll take a look for some NForce boards, thanks for the  suggestion.

That's really what I'm after, a list of chipsets that can support hardware stretching.  Then I can look around for a board, confident it will work when I get it.

[tom61]

Soldered to the board?!?  
Is this a notebook motherboard or something?

[Sam66]

It's not a laptop motherboard, it's sometimes known as an 'integrated' board.

Just a cheap mATX form factor board with everything you need onboard, including the CPU.

It's made by ECS and I guess they decided to save the cost of the CPU socket and just solder the chip straight to the board.

If you're interested it's a K7SEM-III, quite a nice board, but not good for mame : (

[spidermonkey]

Eightbit,
With an onboard graphics controller their are no slots for plugin videocards. This is why they suck so bad. Your stuck with whatever capabilities the graphic controller  has unless you change the whole friggin motherboard.

[gtjoe]

Sorry spidermonkey, but what are you talking about?

There are tons of motherboards with onboard graphics controllers that allow you to disable the onboard and plugin an AGP or PCI video card.

Take a look an the ASUS nforce base board with agp and pci
http://www.hothardware.com/hh_files/Motherboards/asus_a7n266e.shtml

This one should be able to do hardware stretch as tom61 mentioned.

[spidermonkey]

gt joe
I know that there are boards out there that allow you to do this. Thats why I wrote "unless you change the whole friggen motherboard" in my last post. The motherboard in my pc doesn't have a slot  like the one you gave the thread to. So in my particular case,I have no other option but to change my motherboard. Sorry for not explaining myself better but I wasn't implying that all motherboards are unadaptable. Don't mind me. Im just pi$$ed off at myself for buying this computer. Not only do I need a motherboard but I also have to get rid of my o.s. (windows me.)   and switch to windows 98 se. By the time I get this computer up to snuff for mame I could have built a new one  for the same amount of money.  Although Nvidia hasn't been in the motherboard business for very long the one on that thread looks like a winner. I'd love to here from somebody who is running one of those.
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