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Re: Vegetarians
« Reply #80 on: April 22, 2005, 06:07:09 pm »
Practicing Photosythesisiism = Not humanly possible

Practicing vegetarianism for moral/ethical reasons is possible
Practicing Veganism for moral/ethical reasons is possible
Practicing Carnivoresm for moral/ethical reasons is possible
Practicing Photosythesisism for moral/ethical reasons is possible

You can Practice anything. 
For example: you can go to the top of a tall building and practice your flying skills.

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Re: Vegetarians
« Reply #81 on: April 22, 2005, 06:14:14 pm »
Or, for example, you can go into a thread and practice sounding lame....
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Re: Vegetarians
« Reply #82 on: April 22, 2005, 07:00:04 pm »
Or, for example, you can go into a thread and practice sounding lame....

Since I asked you to practice something you will not capable of doing, you must think I am incapable of being lame.

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Re: Vegetarians
« Reply #83 on: April 22, 2005, 07:14:45 pm »
LMAO.....what is this, I'm rubber you're glue?
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Re: Vegetarians
« Reply #84 on: April 22, 2005, 07:48:51 pm »
It's almost 7pm on a Friday night, and I'm still at work waiting for a client to send me raw files for their cd.
Darn you 10pm FedEx!

I'm very bitter.



Also I'm tired so me English are starting to be no good.

To get some energy for tonight, I'll make myself a bloody rare steak.

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Re: Vegetarians
« Reply #85 on: April 22, 2005, 07:59:02 pm »
Add a bloody mary to the mix and you've got a nice combination.
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Re: Vegetarians
« Reply #86 on: April 22, 2005, 08:14:48 pm »
Would you guys like, get a room or something?  :P
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Re: Vegetarians
« Reply #87 on: April 22, 2005, 09:41:38 pm »
A rubber room, perhaps....unless you guys have different fetishes.

I've practiced flying lots of times, but I haven't mastered it at the 1-foot-off-the-ground level yet, so I'll wait until I'm proficient at that level before moving up.  I've got many years to go before I can try a tall building.

And I no longer have to practice, I just have to choose my spots....to be lame

I'm gonna smoke a salmon tomorrow, since you guys got me all charged up for some form of animal flesh.  The hard part will be getting rolling papers large enough.  I'm gonna have to see a man about a horse.
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Re: Vegetarians
« Reply #88 on: April 23, 2005, 03:39:22 am »
I dont eat meat cause its just not good for you. As far as being "born" to eat meat..nope. Im not gonna explain it again but i think we are evolving just not done yet. And prolly not in my lifetime. Also they add hormones and a bunch of other crap to meat now. And saw a comment on the FDA lmao they will sell you whatever they think will make them money...you dont think they dont get payed off come on this is america. And i just chopped a carrot in half and it didnt scream.
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Re: Vegetarians
« Reply #89 on: April 23, 2005, 03:50:34 am »

And i just chopped a carrot in half and it didnt scream.


Maybe due to you not eating meat you're missing a vital enzyme required for hearing those high-pitched screams.

You should be more worried that someday you don't piss off all the rest of the vegetables because of your callous attitude towards the carrot family.  It's all fun and games until you're being stalked by the celery.  I wouldn't be so quick to turnip your nose at the meat group.  Lettuce not forget, if cows roamed wild, they'd be our competition for all those delicacies you desire unless you're willing to shell out more cabbage for 'em.  Friggen cucumber-some beasts!  You'd have to eventually beet the snot out of a cow.  Think how morally corn-fusing that would be!  Eventually it all comes down to either the cow gets it, or you, so peas, asparagus your sob stories.
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Re: Vegetarians
« Reply #90 on: April 23, 2005, 10:28:21 am »
I dont eat meat cause its just not good for you. As far as being "born" to eat meat..nope. Im not gonna explain it again but i think we are evolving just not done yet. And prolly not in my lifetime. Also they add hormones and a bunch of other crap to meat now. And saw a comment on the FDA lmao they will sell you whatever they think will make them money...you dont think they dont get payed off come on this is america. And i just chopped a carrot in half and it didnt scream.

The biggest concern (in my opinion) is not the hormones given, but the antibiotics given to prevent problems from the growth hormones themselves.

I am somewhat concerned about the resistant properties that may be developed from these antibiotics and the widespread possibility of a super bug that we are unable to fight.

But man, I do love a big bloody steak bug's n'all.

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Re: Vegetarians
« Reply #91 on: April 23, 2005, 11:19:34 am »
Then buy your beef from someone that doesn't use antibiotics or hormones.

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Re: Vegetarians
« Reply #92 on: April 23, 2005, 11:33:59 am »
Then buy your beef from someone that doesn't use antibiotics or hormones.

I think the main concern is that it is happening and regardless of if you eat such food or not, the bugs are evolving to become resistant to antibiotics and they are out there and in growing numbers.

Which may or may not be an issue if you then eat a mushroom or something that was grown in fertiliser with dormant but resistant bad guys.

I know the odds of this happenning are slim, but there are odds.

Even woman now who eat salmon that have spawned and been exposed to plastic wastes are having troubles becoming pregnant due the residues mimicking hormones in which the side effect is contraception.

There are all sorts of things going on that we have no idea of and the food chain is where it all begins.

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Re: Vegetarians
« Reply #93 on: April 23, 2005, 12:00:51 pm »
 ;D Peale your decision is awesome. Me and my wife have been Vegans for 2 years now and never have we been more healthy(in response to earlier aligations). If you choose to stop eating meat and you replace it with chips, cakes and candy; of course you will be fat and unhealthy. Neither me or my wife have had a cold, or any other sickness since. As for choosing to go veg on moral grounds you get much respect from me, and it will be more worthwhile. Trying to do it for fashionable reasons only leads to let downs. So more Power to you and its good to see people spreading the message.

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Re: Vegetarians
« Reply #94 on: April 24, 2005, 09:32:35 pm »
The biggest concern (in my opinion) is not the hormones given, but the antibiotics given to prevent problems from the growth hormones themselves.
The biggest concern (in my opinion) is that I know people who can really work up a lather about all of the dangerous chemical voodoo we perform with animals, and then not give a crap we are letting companies splice genes from anything they can get their hands on into plant stocks they don't put too much of an effort into tracking.  :'(

I used to be re-assured that there was always that cave somewhere if things got too bad, but it turns out the last owner was arrested because some of the neighbour's GM crops cross-fertilised with his vegetable garden...  :police:
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Re: Vegetarians
« Reply #95 on: April 25, 2005, 09:21:35 pm »
dairy cows are breed to produce too much milk. so you really do have to keep milking it. having said that if you wanted to stop the cycle you wouldnt breed any more of those cows.

the ultimate thing to do would be to be a fruitarian. but im not sure how well id go picking fallen fruit off the ground and eating roadkill  :o


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Re: Vegetarians
« Reply #96 on: April 25, 2005, 10:11:19 pm »
dairy cows are breed to produce too much milk. so you really do have to keep milking it. having said that if you wanted to stop the cycle you wouldnt breed any more of those cows.

Cows will only produce as much milk as is taken from it.  Same with any animal.

But I do agree...they should stop breeding them.

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Re: Vegetarians
« Reply #97 on: April 26, 2005, 05:57:03 am »
*ugh* PETA...  I grew up in Norfolk, VA, not far away from the PETA national headquarters.  I'm not saying being a vegatarian is crazy, it works for some people, but those people at PETA are crazy.  That is the most militant group of meat-haters I have ever been exposed to.

Basically, what I am trying to say is, be a vegetarian, that's fine.  But don't associate yourself with PETA. 

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Re: Vegetarians
« Reply #98 on: April 26, 2005, 09:29:07 am »
I wouldn't do anything crazy, but I agree with most of their principles.

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Re: Vegetarians
« Reply #99 on: April 26, 2005, 09:45:45 am »
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Re: Vegetarians
« Reply #100 on: April 26, 2005, 08:55:43 pm »
dairy cows are breed to produce too much milk. so you really do have to keep milking it. having said that if you wanted to stop the cycle you wouldnt breed any more of those cows.

Cows will only produce as much milk as is taken from it.


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Re: Vegetarians
« Reply #101 on: April 26, 2005, 09:21:37 pm »
OK, but they are breed to have udders much larger than necessary. they have WAY more milk than is needed for their calves. it makes sense to have bred them that way because that is what WE wanted from them. MEAT cows have smaller udders yet their calves don't starve to death...

The calves are taken away within a couple weeks after birth, if the calf is to be a milk cow.  They're then bottle fed.  If they're a male calf they get tied up so they can't move (don't want to work that muscle, you know it makes the meat tough!) then slaughtered at about a month old.

The udders on your average milk cow are distended because they're producing far more milk than they would for just their calf, and on top of that they do it for an average of five years, before their bodies give out.

Meat cows have smaller udders because they don't give milk.

Of course, different places do things differently.  There's a family farm not far from here where the calves stay with the mother (at least the female calves) and they get to roam on a pasture and eat the grass there.  They also only have a few cows.  Not like a factory farm where they pile them on top of one another.

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Re: Vegetarians
« Reply #102 on: April 28, 2005, 03:31:29 pm »
International Respect for Chickens Day

Wednesday May 4, 2005

Remember if you're going to deep fry a whole chicken you need to buy it on May 4, so there will be a noticeable economical affect.

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Re: Vegetarians
« Reply #103 on: April 28, 2005, 06:31:06 pm »
I'm going to remain undecided and watch chiken run while eating a huge tub of kfc.
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Re: Vegetarians
« Reply #104 on: April 28, 2005, 07:08:11 pm »
hungry yet  ;D