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Schiavo rumblings
Dartful Dodger:
--- Quote from: saint on March 22, 2005, 08:33:33 pm ---Do you really mean to tell me that he should have to resort to killing her himself to honor her wishes to let nature take its course?
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If you don't give a baby food nature takes it's course and the baby dies.
Her husband says one thing her family says another.
Her family hired lawyers to save her, her husband hired lawyers to kill her.
She didn't have a living will, her family couldn't agree, so the state had to decide.
Since letting her live wasn't hurting anyone, I don't understand why people are trying so hard to convince everyone that killing her is the best option.
--- Quote from: saint on March 22, 2005, 08:33:33 pm ---What if she's not totally brain dead and in a living hell?
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What if she's 7 days away from waking up and making a complete recovery, but instead she starves to death in 6?
DrewKaree:
Mr Schiavo didn't recollect Terri's wishes to not live her life in this state until several years later, and specifically, didn't recall them until after the malpractice settlement.
He hadn't received offers of money to walk away from her until just recently. He'd look like a lowlife crook if he took it now, and he would have to relinquish guardianship of her, opening up the possibility of tests to try to determine if she got to this state through what he claimed, or if foul play were involved. This isn't just a case of family and friends who believe this might be the case, there have been doctors who have examined her and do not believe her symptoms and injuries to be consistent with the story Schiavo tells.
Since he has guardianship of her, he has also chosen to cremate the body, so any possibility of finding these things out go right in the ashcan as well.
The stipulation of any money ever offered to him was that he relinquish guardianship and/or divorce her, thereby allowing her parents to assume care for her.
It's fine to say my spouse speaks for me and I trust her to make those decisions for me should the need arise, but the possibility that someone may have that decision made for them by someone who doesn't share you and your spouse's views towards each other not only exists, but is a real enough possibility that the law should be clear in cases such as those.
I don't trust her husband. Enough exists for me to doubt his motives. At the very least, the judge should have reserved judgement long enough to mandate tests as to whether the man has ulterior motives, since his wife can't speak for herself now. Enough has been brought up in this case for me to question his more-than-peculiar "timing" of things throughout this case, and his actions while still married to his wife.
I simply don't trust the guy.
GGKoul:
--- Quote from: Dartful Dodger on March 22, 2005, 08:55:08 pm ---If you don't give a baby food nature takes it's course and the baby dies.
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Yes, but if you did that, your child would be moved to someone else to take care of you until then are legally old enough to take care of yourself.
--- Quote from: Dartful Dodger on March 22, 2005, 08:55:08 pm ---Her husband says one thing her family says another.
Her family hired lawyers to save her, her husband hired lawyers to kill her.
She didn't have a living will, her family couldn't agree, so the state had to decide.
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The state has setup that when you marry, your spouse becomes your guardian should this happen. The Husband is doing something to honour her wishes
--- Quote from: Dartful Dodger on March 22, 2005, 08:55:08 pm ---Since letting her live wasn't hurting anyone, I don't understand why people are trying so hard to convince everyone that killing her is the best option.
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What happens when the trust money runs out? Who is going to pay the medical bills?
--- Quote from: Dartful Dodger on March 22, 2005, 08:55:08 pm ---What if she's 7 days away from waking up and making a complete recovery, but instead she starves to death in 6?
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It's been 15 years and numerous doctors later. I hope to god a mircale happens in this case. And I agree, there needs to be a better way.
GGKoul:
Hate to think what would happen if her bills were being paid via an Health Insurance Company...
DrewKaree:
Glenn Beck has taken pledges from listeners and people who wish to do so. The money will be collected and given to Schiavo if and when he divorces his wife, turning guardianship of Terri over to her parents.
I don't know of another person who's been speaking of this case for as long as he has. He's been doing so for ~6-7 years
The "I Saved Bobo" campaign is his effort to make his point in this case. I believe it to be in his "free" audio section, for anyone to hear.
Another point: If marriage today wasn't looked at as a 50/50 proposition, there might be more willingness to believe that the best interests of a person will always be an overriding factor life/death decisions. Enough people decide to skip worrying about a feeding tube and end their spouse's life through lethal means to bring into question the possibilty as well.