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saint:

I couldn't disagree more. They may be the *next* qualified, but the most qualified is the person she *chose* to live her life with. Parents are the most qualified until you leave the nest, but when you start a new family your spouse is that person, or should be certainly. That doesn't mean you aren't close to your parents, but late at night it's my wife I talk about life, death, religion, raising my children, living wills, and issues such as these.

And I repeat, I don't believe his wife has to be dead for him to remarry. I don't believe any court would deny him a divorce under these circumstances.

Do you really mean to tell me that he should have to resort to killing her himself to honor her wishes to let nature take its course? If it is me in her situation, I don't want my wife to have to carry that weight around. Hard enough I'm asking her to let me die.

--- saint


--- Quote from: Dartful Dodger on March 22, 2005, 07:16:10 pm ---The people that gave her life, raised her with their values and beliefs would be just as qualified.

When a person is murdered the first suspect is always the husband/spouse.

I am not saying Schiavo husband is a killer, but her family is just as trustworthy as he is.

I do not know either, maybe her parents are grieving and want to keep her alive because they don't want to give up on her.  Maybe her husband wants her dead so he can marry his girlfriend.

What I do know is, if she starves to death, that's it.

If she's not going to feel pain when they starve her to death, she won
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Dartful Dodger:


--- Quote from: shmokes on March 22, 2005, 07:40:16 pm ---He wants her to die.
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saint:

What if she's not totally brain dead and in a living hell? aYes, her wishes matter.

The fact is not that her family couldn't come to a decision. Her spouse did come to a decision. I'm not entirely clear on the specifics of the law, but doesn't the  spouse get to make life or death decisions in medical care? IANAL, but I watch ER :) Seriously though, I'm curious what the law *does* say about such decisions.

By the way, apparently "Beck" has offered him $5 million to walk away (unless that's another urban legend), so perhaps we'll see what his motivations are now.  Apparently there have been other offers as well that were declined...

1 million

ten million? Same article mentions that allegations of abuse by the husband had been investigated and found to be groundless, said the (one of the?) current judge in the matter.

--- saint





--- Quote from: Dartful Dodger on March 22, 2005, 08:36:43 pm ---He told us her wishes, keeping her alive may be going against her wishes, but it isn't hurting her, and if she's brain dead she doesn't care.

The fact is, she didn't have a living will, the family couldn't come to a decision, and so the state had to.

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saint:


--- Quote from: saint on March 22, 2005, 08:45:38 pm ---What if she's not totally brain dead and in a living hell?  Yes, her wishes matter.

The fact is not that her family couldn't come to a decision. Her spouse did come to a decision. I'm not entirely clear on the specifics of the law, but doesn't the  spouse get to make life or death decisions in medical care? IANAL, but I watch ER :) Seriously though, I'm curious what the law *does* say about such decisions.

By the way, apparently "Beck" has offered him $5 million to walk away (unless that's another urban legend), so perhaps we'll see what his motivations are now.  Apparently there have been other offers as well that were declined...

1 million

ten million? Same article mentions that allegations of abuse by the husband had been investigated and found to be groundless, said the (one of the?) current judge in the matter.

Edit:The guy may be a snake, in which case yes all the legal interventions are warranted. However, so far I haven't seen any evidence that he's anything but what he says he is, and apparently according to the above last link, the courts have ruled out foul play. All I've seen so far, other than people on both sides putting their own positions forward on what they think is the right thing to do, is a tragedy become a national news story.

--- saint





--- Quote from: Dartful Dodger on March 22, 2005, 08:36:43 pm ---He told us her wishes, keeping her alive may be going against her wishes, but it isn't hurting her, and if she's brain dead she doesn't care.

The fact is, she didn't have a living will, the family couldn't come to a decision, and so the state had to.

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GGKoul:

"There is no amount of money anyone can offer him to induce him to betray his promise to Terri," Felos said. "He's simply not going to betray her for money."

 In 1998, Michael Schiavo offered to donate to charity the $700,000 then remaining in a trust account set up for his wife's care if her parents agreed to let her feeding tube be removed. They refused.

The money had been won in a medical malpractice case. Schiavo stood to inherit it upon his wife's death. Today, only about $50,000 remains.

"He has said from the beginning that this case isn't about money," Felos said



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