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Land of the free?
ChadTower:
--- Quote from: Crazy Cooter on March 04, 2005, 09:54:12 am ---The teacher in the vid was setup I'm sure, but if he can't handle it... why is he a teacher?
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That would work in an ideal world where parents do their jobs. Too many kids, boys especially, just don't get taught basic respect at home. Crappy fathers, absent fathers, no male figure around to teach them how to become a man. These are the type of boys who really DO need to be yelled at, slapped around, shown the hard way the consequences of that type of behaviour BEFORE they end up killed or in jail.
Everyone wants to weep about the declining quality of children but it all starts with the people who were supposed to have taught them the things they don't know.
Dexter:
Point is, you can't expect schools to raise your children for you. Their role is to educate, the burden of disciplining has to ALWAYS lay with the parents in the first instance. Otherwise, how do you define the line between discipline and physical abuse?
This teacher is apparently easily riled, so much so that the students knew they could get a reaction out of him and capture it on video. Would you want an adult with such a short fuse teaching your child?
ChadTower:
He may not be a short fuse. He may be constantly pushed near the edge by these particular idiot kids. A person only has so much temper. It's not excusable to snatch the chair but the kids definitely deserve much of the blame.
Then again, he could be a short fuse who needs to be fired.
I didn't mean to say that it is the school's job to teach these kids the things their parents are not. I was pointing out the problem inherent in the fact that these kids are not being raised properly and unfortunately the number of improperly raised children increases with each generation.
Dexter:
Agree, the parents need to smack them upside the head. A fairly new problem here is that of both parents having to work full time due to the high cost of living and not being able to devote enough time to raising their kids.
ChadTower:
That's not just there, it's here too. MOST kids here who have two parents have both parents working. Alas, I think too many people create that situation themselves. You don't have to drive a pair of 40k SUVs and have a 2500sqft house, but if you have those things, you'd better have two incomes to pay for it all.
I think the feminism movement really screwed women in this regard. It used to be before, a woman was expected to stay home and raise the kids. That was too limiting, so the womens' lib movement got them the ability to go out and get an education and a career. It didn't tell them, though, that it's not realistically possible to have both at the same time. There just isn't enough time to raise the kids properly AND be in the workplace with a real career. Women today seem to think they HAVE to do both and it's just not possible to do them both properly at the same time. It always seems to be the children that pay the price, too. I think the solution is probably a combination of more men staying home and women coming to the common sense realization that you can have your career, and you can raise your kids, but one's primary focus needs to be one or the other, not both.