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quarterback:
So, did everybody hear the followup? It wasn't a camera-phone (as was reported), there was also 10-minutes of tape PRIOR to the other tape that shows these kids antagonizing the teacher, there's also extensive video footage of these kids destroying property (christmas decorations etc) in people's yards/on their houses with baseball bats and the day before this incident, the kids saran wrapped another student to his desk/chair.
RetroJames:
Corey Zappo is one of two students suspended following the incident. When we interviewed him yesterday he admitted that he brought his videocamera into the class knowing that he and his friends would get a rise out of Mantel.
Corey Zappo, High School Student: "So we just knew he was going to flip out because he frequently did and my friends and I thought it would be kind of funny to catch it."
http://abclocal.go.com/wabc/news/wabc_030205_classroomoutburstfollow.html#
DrewKaree:
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I also wonder why you'd claim that the teacher in the video was "set up", since the kids provoked him in order to get it on video, yet you won't bat an eyelash at these Protest Warriors, who've obviously staged an event, and provoked the school in order to get photos and post it all over the web? Would you agree that this seems like a setup as well?
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I'm more intrigued that you believe him to not "bat an eyelash", when he's stated both instances were either regretful or wrong on both sides.
I'm also highly intrigued that you're saying Chad is "claiming that the teacher in the video was "set up", since the kids provoked him". It reads as if you're questioning those "claims", yet you had this to say regarding his comments:
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--- Quote from: ChadTower on March 02, 2005, 01:22:43 pm ---
What I am seeing here, though, is a kid who refused to stand in order to provoke the teacher, not to protest with sincerity. The teacher was wrong, and he got the provoked reaction he wanted, but the kid's actions had no root in nobility either.
The whole situation is unfortunate. Clearly the incident was staged or they wouldn't have had a way to record it. Neither side is in the right.
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EDIT (On preview): We are 100% in agreement on this. I had imagined there was more to this than what we were seeing, as well.
mrC
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He "showed you the light", brutha. You sound a bit cheesed at that.
Don't worry, soon the brainwashing will kick in and you'll see the light.
The farce is strong in you, I can feel it.
I'm sure the line will be long in volunteering to drive it out of you ;D
ChadTower:
If that followup is true, then really this is more a case of some punks who need a foot to the ass and a teacher who just hit the line of his ability to restrain himself. There's a real problem in my community with kids committing crimes and videotaping themselves doing it. This sounds a lot like that.
Last summer a bunch of kids broke into a Salvation Army holding yard that was full of household goods that were going to the needy and their thrift stores. They proceeded to demolish half the yard. While in progress, some off duty Policemen were golfing on the course that happens to abut the storage yard. The police chased the kids down and arrested them. Two of the parents then sued the Police for wrongful arrest and persecution. Alas, the kids had videotaped not only their actions in the storage yard but also a series of vandalisms (including antisemitic graffiti) that had occurred over the preceding week that had been unsolved. Let's just say the parents dropped their suits quickly.
The followup really makes it sound like these kids are one of those groups.
Crazy Cooter:
The teacher in the vid was setup I'm sure, but if he can't handle it... why is he a teacher?
IMO, there's no reason a teacher (or any professionsal) to raise their voice at a job.