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quarterback:
--- Quote from: Crazy Cooter on March 04, 2005, 09:54:12 am ---The teacher in the vid was setup I'm sure, but if he can't handle it... why is he a teacher?
IMO, there's no reason a teacher (or any professionsal) to raise their voice at a job.
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mr.Curmudgeon:
--- Quote from: DrewKaree on March 04, 2005, 12:57:13 am ---I'm also highly intrigued that you're saying Chad is "claiming that the teacher in the video was "set up", since the kids provoked him". It reads as if you're questioning those "claims", yet you had this to say regarding his comments:
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I *did* agree with Chad's "claim"...but that still means it's just a claim. My agreement w/ Chad doesn't make the claims any more solvent. We didn't know the whole story at the time (although there's been follow up recently).
My response was to Chad praising the Protest Warrior kids literacy, while seemingly ignoring the correlation between their actions and these "anthem kids" actions. Chad often claims to be impartial, or centrist in his beliefs. I don't feel that is a fair self-assessment. As such, since I prefer to argue w/ people on an even playing field, I like to point these things out. It's only fair, I declare my biases, you know where I stand.
If I remember correctly, Drew, you too made the same sort of claims about being an unbiased centrist thinker. Who here, now, would take that at face value? It's fine that you're a conservative, and it's fine that Chad seems to support a conservative agenda as well. However, it just doesn't seem fair to hide behind the claim of being 'fair and balanced' when you've got such an obvious slant to your thinking. (This isn't pot-kettle either, see my sig for self-parody)
I was, and still am, curious as to whether he feels the PW's acted in an appropriate manner, as he has been quick to condemn left-leaning individuals, while letting right-leaners off scott-free. To me it's another demonstration of his potential bias.
mrC
Dartful Dodger:
--- Quote from: mr.Curmudgeon on March 04, 2005, 02:24:18 pm ---I *did* agree with Chad's "claim"...but that still means it's just a claim. My agreement w/ Chad doesn't make the claims any more solvent. We didn't know the whole story at the time (although there's been follow up recently).
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We did know the whole story at the time.
Facts:
kid doesn't stand for the pledge.
Different kid video tapes it.
The whole story was obvious.
If the story was:
The teacher had a hidden camera taping the kid stealing from the teacher's desk.
The whole story to that would be obvious too.
A student was stealing from the teacher, so the teacher set u pa camera to catch him in the act.
Your reaction to this scenario is also obvious.
You would be upset that the teacher wasn't respecting the kid's privacy.
I do not take your posts seriously because you do not seriously think before you post.
ChadTower:
I don't remember ever saying I was unbiased or centrist. In fact I remember as recently as yesterday saying specifically that my views fall either left or right depending on the issue. The only thing I can remember saying that was even close was that I think things through and make what I consider rational assessments.
RetroJames:
I was very bored last night and read a few of the PW kid's posts on PW. He is a real piece of work. He is well-spoken and articulate, but some of his content leaves a great deal to be desired IMHO. I am really trying to be charitable here as well.