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DrewKaree:
--- Quote from: fredster on March 08, 2005, 12:57:58 am ---
If I want to know how to be an jerk, I'll ask you, okay?
Drew do you think Shmokes ever went to the woodshed?
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That's a paraphrased Seinfeld line if ever I've heard one!
And no, he said he wasn't....and I don't think MrC will EVER have an opinion that differs from his that much that he'll feel the need to givum sum lernin'
shmokes:
LMAO, of course castration and isolation on an island is beyond rational. Please, for the love of god, believe that I'm kidding about that. But the never say never bit is absurd. I think you could, with all kinds of confidence, say that there are a great many things that you would never do to your children.
It's nothing short of comical when y'all say, "Oh....you just wait. You say that now, cos you don't have kids. Blah blah blah." There are millions of parents who simply do not use physical violence on their children. The argument might hold some water if such people were extremely rare or, perhaps, if you could show statistically that the products of such nonviolent upbringing were less well-behaved than kids from homes that employ corporal punishment. That is simply not the case. I can say that I won't hit my kids the same as I can say that I won't molest them. Ever.
I can't wait for Fred's response:
"Shmokes, you say you won't molest your kids now, but that's because you have no kids. Your opinion on the virtues of child molestation is moot. When you have kids you'll see just how difficult it is not to molest them." ::)
The problem with relying on logical fallacies, Fred, is that they are so easy to shoot down. Even when you're right you'll be undone in an argument every time if you support your opinion with faulty logic. Spanking is always the best course of action, sometimes the best course of action, neither better or worse than alternative courses of action, or never acceptable. It is one of those things now, and will continue to be one of those things after I have children. My family status is irrelevant to the issue. Even if your absurd claim that once I have kids of my own I will find the act of spanking them irresistible turns out to be true, that doesn't mean a damn thing, except that I turned out to be a bad parent in that respect.
As arrogant as I am, I would not suggest that the answer to the question of whether kids should be spanked by their parents hingest on what I decide to do with my own kids.
daywane:
saint...
your oldest is 8?
My wife had 2 children when we met , 1yr old and 2 yrs old. I raised them as my own and still do. I do not care for the word Stepdad. I am there dad
These 2 monsters hated me at first and hated each other. I mean tossing each other out the window type hate . ( i guess there to close to age, I do not know and never under stood it) I would come home from work and the boy would have a fire under the 500 gal propain tank.
They had several spanks before 8
my youngest is 9 never had any problems like the other 2 ( I have stated I have 4 kids. He is the oldest . He is 18 and lives with my first wife. I can not really use him as a example. the most I could do to help him was pay my child support)
I really hope your kids are the exception. just be warned ...Jr high is cumming, High school RUN man RUN!!! :D
fredster:
Right Daywane, it just depends on the situation. I said I wouldn't do it either, but just cutting priviliges wasn't enough, the behavior persisted.
Shmokes, I'm always impressed with how smart you are. That was a #8, a #9a, and #10, rounded with a #12.
(Per this thread - http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php/topic,32236.0.html)
However, I suggest you should stick to expaining about things you obviously know how to do, like rip off Walmart (as you explained very well in your EA Boycott Thread). Until then, leave child rearing to the people that have children.
If you actually do manage to have children, you can teach them to rip off other stores too! Maybe you could show you kid how to boycott as successfully has you have.
And you could start a family business together boycotting and ripping off stores. That would be nice.
ChadTower:
--- Quote from: daywane on March 08, 2005, 12:28:24 pm ---Jr high is cumming, High school RUN man RUN!!! :D
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Dude, I spit my drink out when I read that. That is SO TRUE on SO MANY levels.