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DrewKaree:
--- Quote from: shmokes on March 08, 2005, 12:08:05 pm ---LMAO, of course castration and isolation on an island is beyond rational. Please, for the love of god, believe that I'm kidding about that. But the never say never bit is absurd. I think you could, with all kinds of confidence, say that there are a great many things that you would never do to your children.
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I get that it's beyond rational, just like your comments regarding spanking a child and the people that feel it necessary.
There's a vast difference between spanking your child and molesting them, you know it, and it's ignorant to compare the two knowing such things. The most illogical of people can understand the reasoning behind not saying you'll never spank your child. I have no doubt in my mind that you'll do your best to move heaven and earth NOT to spank your child, if you have one or choose to in the future, but telling us you'll NEVER do it? Your powers of ESP astound us, and frankly, I wish you'd start using them to divine what fredster is about to say so you can answer his next point before it's brought up.
--- Quote ---The problem with relying on logical fallacies, Fred, is that they are so easy to shoot down. Even when you're right you'll be undone in an argument every time if you support your opinion with faulty logic. Spanking is always the best course of action, sometimes the best course of action, neither better or worse than alternative courses of action, or never acceptable. It is one of those things now, and will continue to be one of those things after I have children. My family status is irrelevant to the issue. Even if your absurd claim that once I have kids of my own I will find the act of spanking them irresistible turns out to be true, that doesn't mean a damn thing, except that I turned out to be a bad parent in that respect.
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Yet somehow you think you haven't done the exact same thing telling us that if you spank your child even once, you are a bad parent.
--- Quote ---As arrogant as I am, I would not suggest that the answer to the question of whether kids should be spanked by their parents hingest on what I decide to do with my own kids.
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Yet you ARE arrogant enough to pass judgement on someone as a bad parent for spanking their child.
Luckily, you live in that nice blue state where if you lose your mind and become a bad parent in the store, people won't look at you twice. I'm betting living in Utah, you've seen it happen a few times, hey?
Daniel270:
This is the first (and hopefully only) thread I've dared go into any sort of debate on....
I was one of those children brought up "disciplined" by a belt. I can honestly say tho that it wasn't abuse, but true discipline.... Each time I got it (which was less than the number of fingers on one hand), I did something bad enough to merit it. Am I a bad person? I'd like to think not. I've never been a bully, I've never robbed anyone, and I can honestly say I'm probably one of the nicest people anyone could get to know in person.
I do totally agree with Saint, tho. Any form of spanking (not beatings, thrashings or whatever) should be totally a last resort. There were times I was more "punished" by the wait to get spanked than actually getting it (there was usually an hour wait between being told I was getting one and getting one).
shmokes:
--- Quote from: fredster on March 08, 2005, 12:57:27 pm ---Shmokes, I'm always impressed with how smart you are. That was a #8, a #9a, and #10, rounded with a #12.
(Per this thread - http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php/topic,32236.0.html)
However, I suggest you should stick to expaining about things you obviously know how to do, like rip off Walmart (as you explained very well in your EA Boycott Thread).
If you actually do manage to have children, you can teach them to rip off other stores too!
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ChadTower:
The amount of hominemphobia in this thread is disturbing. Hominemsexuals are people too.
shmokes:
Hominems should be castrated and put on an island.