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Dexter:


--- Quote from: fredster on February 28, 2005, 09:34:34 am ---Dexter -
--- Quote ---To be the first black secretary of state is a hell of an achievement
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I guess Colin Powell was white?

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Ooops, meant black female, as I mention in the rest of the paragraph. Well spotted though

mr.Curmudgeon:


--- Quote from: fredster on February 28, 2005, 09:34:34 am ---Probably one of the most brilliant people in public life.

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Yeah, ignoring those memos was brilliant! Ignoring 52 separate warnings from the FAA about upcoming attacks on America was brilliant!! No wonder you feel Bush is a success, if this is your measure of brilliance. I see it now, Osama still on the loose is a tremendous boon for our country!!

Seriously, I'm curious...since the right is constantly bleating about the educated liberal "elite", beyond her education, by what measure is she "brilliant", what successes did she have under Bush's first term that allow you to continue to perceive her as brilliant?


mrC

Dartful Dodger:


--- Quote from: shmokes on February 25, 2005, 08:08:18 pm ---I automatically distrust black republicans, especially when they're women.
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fredster:

MrC, there are unsubstantiated threats against the US all the time.

mr.Curmudgeon:


--- Quote from: fredster on February 28, 2005, 10:58:23 am ---To me, the war in Iraq is a HUGE success.

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115 dead today=success? Brilliant!

The war in Iraq is *not* over, so to call it a success or failure at this juncture is premature and jingoist at best. Let's be honest, you believe it *will* be a success, and I believe it will not. I guess I can't argue the case any further if you truly think it's already over and done with.


--- Quote ---Condi rice is a great organizer, and as NSS, she held together a huge organization.  She has been the lead advocate for the President and put together the cases for the war in Iraq.
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So she shills for the prez? How is she a great organizer? You've provided no substantial evidence as to why Condi should be considered a success other than outlining the most simplistic aspects of her job description? What accomplishments does she have under her belt from the first term? Supporting Bush really isn't an accomplishment, it's what she was hired to do.


--- Quote ---Theres a new hope for democracy in the Middle East that wouldn't have existed if it wasn't for Condi Rice.  It was a vision your ideology has blinded you against.
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Give me a break fredster. I disagree with Bush's motives and the plan, simple as that...doesn't mean I don't see them. You NEED to tell yourself I dont' see them, because that allows you to ignore the criticism completely. I wish that wasn't the case, but it seems you always come back to that same defense, time and again.


--- Quote ---Has any American President made a "positive change in Russia's thinking" ?  Oh yeah, one did, Reagan.
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I believe it's more apparent that the Communist bloc broke up from within. Republicans like to credit Reagan, but he really did nothing more than outspend the Russians in an attempt to bolster M.A.D. which led the U.S. into a tremendous deficits. His "arms race" played right into the hands of authoritarian "Communist" hard-liners in the Kremlin, which most likely extended the length of time it took for communism to finally fall in Russia, all while edging the dying regime to the brink of war several times.

We won the Cold War even before Reagan, to noone's credit, but rather due to inherent flaws in the Russian system. Even the CIA told Reagan this when he first took office.

mrC

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