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Re:Here's a nice one for the gun advocates
« Reply #40 on: September 23, 2004, 12:11:52 am »
How about them Cubs?
 Well after I used my new AK with folding stock and suppressor I managed to get one after emptying my 40 round clip into its head.  The meat was pretty good but its a shame i can't mount its head on my wall.























That was a joke.  ;D

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Re:Here's a nice one for the gun advocates
« Reply #41 on: September 24, 2004, 11:09:41 am »
you're all f**ked up in the USA

little people feeling big with guns in their hands

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Re:Here's a nice one for the gun advocates
« Reply #42 on: September 24, 2004, 11:12:31 am »

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If you're exercising it collectively, then yes - you need an "Assault weapon".

I'm glad I don't live near you.

Me too - for if it ever becomes necessary to collectively exercise the right to arms, I dont want to have to carry your deadweight.

do you live in oklahoma by any chance?

or waco, texas?
« Last Edit: September 24, 2004, 11:14:23 am by rchadd »

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Re:Here's a nice one for the gun advocates
« Reply #43 on: September 24, 2004, 12:21:00 pm »
you're all f**ked up in the USA

little people feeling big with guns in their hands

I don't think there is anything more pathetic than someone happily oppressed.

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Re:Here's a nice one for the gun advocates
« Reply #44 on: September 24, 2004, 02:51:50 pm »
The part that escapes me in this whole forum, and I've pointed this out before, is why is that Foreigners (those not citizens of the US) Get so hacked off by this?

I don't care what the rest of the worlds' countries think.  I don't see why it even concerns them.  After all, they don't live in the USA??  How could this issue possibly mean anything to the UK, Austrailia, or Canada?  

Sorry rest of the world, but this is an internal issue, not an international law dispute.  Y'all enjoy your culture, we'll enjoy ours.




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Re:Here's a nice one for the gun advocates
« Reply #45 on: September 24, 2004, 03:48:01 pm »
The part that escapes me in this whole forum, and I've pointed this out before, is why is that Foreigners (those not citizens of the US) Get so hacked off by this?

I don't care what the rest of the worlds' countries think.  I don't see why it even concerns them.  After all, they don't live in the USA??  How could this issue possibly mean anything to the UK, Austrailia, or Canada?  

Sorry rest of the world, but this is an internal issue, not an international law dispute.  Y'all enjoy your culture, we'll enjoy ours.
Why does the poor care how the rich spend thier money?

Because they're jealous.

We have rights, and it makes feel better to trash talk those rights.

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Re:Here's a nice one for the gun advocates
« Reply #46 on: September 24, 2004, 03:49:39 pm »
The part that escapes me in this whole forum, and I've pointed this out before, is why is that Foreigners (those not citizens of the US) Get so hacked off by this?

I don't care what the rest of the worlds' countries think.  I don't see why it even concerns them.  After all, they don't live in the USA??  How could this issue possibly mean anything to the UK, Austrailia, or Canada?  

Sorry rest of the world, but this is an internal issue, not an international law dispute.  Y'all enjoy your culture, we'll enjoy ours.


since when have you yanks given a damn about anyone else?

i don't mind you having as many guns as you like - as long as you shoot your own stupid selves.

just don't be surprised when you keep getting more Columbine attrocities.

and another thing...what about some pollution controls to help stop/reduce global warming?


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Re:Here's a nice one for the gun advocates
« Reply #47 on: September 24, 2004, 04:08:11 pm »
The part that escapes me in this whole forum, and I've pointed this out before, is why is that Foreigners (those not citizens of the US) Get so hacked off by this?

I don't care what the rest of the worlds' countries think.  I don't see why it even concerns them.  After all, they don't live in the USA??  How could this issue possibly mean anything to the UK, Austrailia, or Canada?  

Sorry rest of the world, but this is an internal issue, not an international law dispute.  Y'all enjoy your culture, we'll enjoy ours.



Cause what happens in the US filters to the rest of the world...  Especially when you live right above the US.


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Re:Here's a nice one for the gun advocates
« Reply #48 on: September 24, 2004, 04:58:01 pm »
The part that escapes me in this whole forum, and I've pointed this out before, is why is that Foreigners (those not citizens of the US) Get so hacked off by this?

I don't care what the rest of the worlds' countries think.  I don't see why it even concerns them.  After all, they don't live in the USA??  How could this issue possibly mean anything to the UK, Austrailia, or Canada?  

Sorry rest of the world, but this is an internal issue, not an international law dispute.  Y'all enjoy your culture, we'll enjoy ours.


since when have you yanks given a damn about anyone else?

i don't mind you having as many guns as you like - as long as you shoot your own stupid selves.

just don't be surprised when you keep getting more Columbine attrocities.

and another thing...what about some pollution controls to help stop/reduce global warming?



Are you SO f'ing stupid that you don't know about WWII? If us yanks didn't care about anyone else, Hitler might have pre-emptively aborted dummies like by taking your grandparents out of the gene pool.

Are you bitter that a bunch of yank farmers kicked your trained militarys ass not once, but TWICE? Do you get all of your gun control arguments from Michael Moore movies?

Wake up, man. People like you are the reason the US exists. Just leave us alone, you tool!


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Re:Here's a nice one for the gun advocates
« Reply #49 on: September 24, 2004, 05:08:31 pm »
Just leave us alone, you tool!

That's funny.

Funny, because it's true.

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Re:Here's a nice one for the gun advocates
« Reply #50 on: September 24, 2004, 06:59:10 pm »
Are you SO f'ing stupid that you don't know about WWII? If us yanks didn't care about anyone else, Hitler might have pre-emptively aborted dummies like by taking your grandparents out of the gene pool.

There was more then one group fighting the Germans WAY BEFORE the US ever got involved in WWII.  The war was won for many reasons... not just because the US got involved.

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Re:Here's a nice one for the gun advocates
« Reply #51 on: September 24, 2004, 09:06:02 pm »
since when have you yanks given a damn about anyone else?

1917.  


i don't mind you having as many guns as you like - as long as you shoot your own stupid selves.

Oh, THATS compassionate.



just don't be surprised when you keep getting more Columbine attrocities.

Columbine was when?  April 1999?  5 years ago?  Thats the most recent.  "More"?   You make is souns like it sound the rise.


and another thing...what about some pollution controls to help stop/reduce global warming?

Talk to India and China.  They pollute more than we do.


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Re:Here's a nice one for the gun advocates
« Reply #52 on: September 24, 2004, 09:08:25 pm »
rchadd,
Well, then you don't have a dog in the fight.  There are attrocities like that all over the world, it's not limited to the US.

Most don't believe that global warming is real.  Go to www.junkscience.com.  There has to be evidence of it.

The US has lead the world in developing the technology to do just that.  

Do you have some evidence that we are the cause of polution in the world?  I think your scorn for pollutors would be better served directed at the Russians and the Chineese and Mexico.  

Why Blame the yanks?  All we did was invent the technology.  

GGkoul,  You might be right. You might be right.  But IF the debate comes to your neck of the woods it will be up to you.  That's a big IF.  What happens in the US filters to the rest of the world?  So are we the trendsetter?

Was Canada in WWII?  I only read American History.  It was required.  I do recall that the Germans were winning and continued to win for 2 years after the US joined.  But we did contribute a lot to VE day.  And then there was that thing about stopping the Japaneese that we did.  Kinda saved another 50 to 100 K lives in a continued battle in the pacific.

TOK,

Remember the UK supported us in our latest struggle and we owe rchadd and his country a great debt of gratitude for that.




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Re:Here's a nice one for the gun advocates
« Reply #53 on: September 24, 2004, 09:21:11 pm »
There was more then one group fighting the Germans WAY BEFORE the US ever got involved in WWII.

They were also losing in a big way.  

Of course the Russians would have probably beat the Germans - but then, who was going to keep the Russians from rolling over all of Western Europe?



The war was won for many reasons... not just because the US got involved.

And who was going to carry the fight to the Japanese, if not the US?  


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Re:Here's a nice one for the gun advocates
« Reply #54 on: September 24, 2004, 09:24:38 pm »
Was Canada in WWII?

Yes.  They fought as Commonwealth troops under the British.


But we did contribute a lot to VE day

Thats an...  understatement  :o



And then there was that thing about stopping the Japaneese that we did.  Kinda saved another 50 to 100 K lives in a continued battle in the pacific.

The US did this, almost singlehandedly.

And the US decision to drop the atom bomb saved more lives than any other event of the war.


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Re:Here's a nice one for the gun advocates
« Reply #55 on: September 25, 2004, 12:47:18 am »
There was more then one group fighting the Germans WAY BEFORE the US ever got involved in WWII.

They were also losing in a big way.  

Of course the Russians would have probably beat the Germans - but then, who was going to keep the Russians from rolling over all of Western Europe?


Regardless... it was a great effort from all countries involved to defeat the Germans.  



The war was won for many reasons... not just because the US got involved.

And who was going to carry the fight to the Japanese, if not the US?  



Japan attacked the US.  And I think the Pacific war only between US & Japan.  

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Re:Here's a nice one for the gun advocates
« Reply #56 on: September 25, 2004, 12:52:57 am »
Was Canada in WWII?

Yes.  They fought as Commonwealth troops under the British.

Canadian soliders liberated many cities, villages & town all around Europe.  Lots of cities have memorials for the Canadian soliders that died to free the cities from the Germans.

Also, Canadian soliders were the only ones to land on the beach on Normandy when and where they were suppose to.  The took Juno beach and were able to cut off German supply lines from sending support to the beaches.

Many countries sons died for our freedom today.  And that shouldn't be forgotten and I hope we never have to send anyones sons & daughers to fight a World War again.


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Re:Here's a nice one for the gun advocates
« Reply #57 on: September 25, 2004, 01:11:21 am »


and another thing...what about some pollution controls to help stop/reduce global warming?


Well, according to this statistic:
http://www.nationmaster.com/graph-T/env_nox_emi_per_pop_are

The UK is the 4th largest global polluter, and the US is number 13.

Really, is it so hard to get some facts (jaded or not) to back up your arguments?

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Re:Here's a nice one for the gun advocates
« Reply #58 on: September 25, 2004, 11:11:08 am »

and another thing...what about some pollution controls to help stop/reduce global warming?

Well, according to this statistic:
http://www.nationmaster.com/graph-T/env_nox_emi_per_pop_are
The UK is the 4th largest global polluter, and the US is number 13.

Really, is it so hard to get some facts (jaded or not) to back up your arguments?

HMM.... In CO2 gas which is the largest greenhouse gas thats affecting global warming...

US Leads by a far margin...

http://www.nationmaster.com/graph-T/env_co2_emi


Check your stats..

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Re:Here's a nice one for the gun advocates
« Reply #59 on: September 25, 2004, 11:14:32 am »
Check your stats..

Yeah.
How many people were murdered in the US by an "assault weapon"?

Oh wait - you've written your argument against "assault weapons" off as indefensible.  Never mind.

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Re:Here's a nice one for the gun advocates
« Reply #60 on: September 25, 2004, 11:20:40 am »
Check your stats..
How many people were murdered in the US by an "assault weapon"?

http://www.nationmaster.com/graph-T/cri_mur_wit_fir_cap

Doesn't break down what type of weapson was used.

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Re:Here's a nice one for the gun advocates
« Reply #61 on: September 25, 2004, 11:21:39 am »
I've got the solution that will help all who hate the U.S.  

We emit CO2 whenever we breathe.

All of us from the U.S. will stop breathing.

Less CO2, less filthy 'mercanz, better world  ;D

I'm off to my trash barrel to burn hundreds of plastic 2 liter bottles now...mebbe I'll drive the 50 feet to it, lemme fire up the Hummer
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Re:Here's a nice one for the gun advocates
« Reply #62 on: September 25, 2004, 11:31:57 am »
Total Crimes:  http://www.nationmaster.com/graph-T/cri_tot_cri

Total Assualts:  http://www.nationmaster.com/graph-T/cri_ass

Total Burglaries : http://www.nationmaster.com/graph-T/cri_bur

Total Rapes: http://www.nationmaster.com/graph-T/cri_rap


Take what you want from these stats... as people easly find stats against these.


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« Reply #63 on: September 25, 2004, 12:00:12 pm »
Doesn't break down what type of weapson was used.

No, but this does:
http://www.fbi.gov/ucr/cius_02/xl/02tbl2-10.xls

Table 2.10
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Re:Here's a nice one for the gun advocates
« Reply #64 on: September 26, 2004, 04:33:07 am »
I'm sorry but is there any point (other than going 'yeehaw!') to firing at landscape? Has it declared war on Americans? Was that particular hill the elusive 21st hijacker in 9/11?

Go ride rollercoasters instead of poisoning the hills with lead.

Idiots.
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Re:Here's a nice one for the gun advocates
« Reply #65 on: September 26, 2004, 08:03:15 am »
i think you'll find that this is the essence of what wanting to have guns is all about
« Last Edit: September 26, 2004, 08:17:36 am by danny_galaga »


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Re:Here's a nice one for the gun advocates
« Reply #66 on: September 26, 2004, 10:51:48 am »
I'm sorry but is there any point (other than going 'yeehaw!') to firing at landscape? Has it declared war on Americans? Was that particular hill the elusive 21st hijacker in 9/11?

Go ride rollercoasters instead of poisoning the hills with lead.

Idiots.
Now, I'm pretty cool with the way things are so far, but your ignorance and apparent lack of ANY form of searching for an answer or your decided hatred towards guns of any sort lead me to believe the only person deserving of the "Idiot" moniker is yourself here.  

Thank goodness you rode in on the white horse with the (gunless) cavalry  ::) shaking your old-man fist and giving us a toothless tongue lashing, telling us to "go ride rollercoasters, ya whippersnappers!".

I don't own a gun, haven't owned a gun, but grew up with them in my house because my dad long ago taught me safety and respect when dealing with them.  I do NOT go hunting, EVER, nor do I target practice, but what I DO know, idiot is that you do NOT simply go around firing at the landscape.  

#1 - bullets ARE NOT cheap idiot so you don't fire them off haphazardly becasue

#2 - you may hit something that, idiot, ricochets back and hits you, perhaps fatally.

Now, the part about yelling "Yeehaw", maybe you've seen a few too many movies where this is done, but no one wanders around shooting off their gun into the air like some Dukes Of Hazzard re-run.  

If you'd like to help to change some opinions, perhaps even yours, idiot, then inform yourself, and come here to debate like the rest of these people have done.  You coming here to tell everyone who disagrees with you to "stop it and go do something else" and then ending your "enlightened missive" by calling those who don't agree with you an idiot...it does nothing but to verify the stereotype of anti-gun nuts.

You also offend people who COULD argue your side (more intelligently, idiot, than you are able to) to help someone see a difference.  

I AM such a person.  I am "physically" on your side (don't own, don't have in the house, don't hunt, don't care to have 'em), but am "mentally" on their side (I see that it's a simple freedom of rights issue in the U.S.).

Next time before you press "post", skip a button or two and hit "reset form".  THAT reply would be more well recieved than the tripe you posted above.  You're making me re-think NOT owning a gun now, just because of your sheer ignorance.  IDIOT
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Re:Here's a nice one for the gun advocates
« Reply #67 on: September 26, 2004, 11:21:11 pm »
Oh, and fredster, he's another one you won't like.  Unlike danny, boss is an Australian who LACKS a sense of humor, and thinks his nose is best placed squarely into American politics.

He SO dislikes me and my ilk that he thinks I should be on Saint's hit list...although it seems that Saint seems to have a better handle on what's friendly debate than boss, much to his chagrin  ::)
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Re:Here's a nice one for the gun advocates
« Reply #68 on: September 27, 2004, 03:30:15 am »
no one wanders around shooting off their gun into the air like some Dukes Of Hazzard re-run.  
I don't think they used to fire their guns in the air in Dukes of Hazzard.
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Re:Here's a nice one for the gun advocates
« Reply #69 on: September 27, 2004, 08:57:36 am »
i did hear somewhere that world-wide there are something like 300 deaths a year and many more injuries from falling bullets!! many of them in the middle-east where it's the norm to fire lots of guns in the air during celebrations (those guys are more gun-crazy than the yanks!)


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« Reply #70 on: September 27, 2004, 09:45:55 am »
There are a lot of those kinds of deaths.  On New Years eve we take out our guns and shoot them in the air too.

I believe in Detroit they do that and there are occasionally deaths and injuries over it.

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Re:Here's a nice one for the gun advocates
« Reply #71 on: September 27, 2004, 10:15:24 am »
no one wanders around shooting off their gun into the air like some Dukes Of Hazzard re-run.  
I don't think they used to fire their guns in the air in Dukes of Hazzard.
It was a bow and arrow with a stick of dynamite.

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Re:Here's a nice one for the gun advocates
« Reply #72 on: September 27, 2004, 10:24:40 am »
I'm sorry but is there any point (other than going 'yeehaw!') to firing at landscape? Has it declared war on Americans? Was that particular hill the elusive 21st hijacker in 9/11?

Go ride rollercoasters instead of poisoning the hills with lead.

Idiots.
Now, I'm pretty cool with the way things are so far, but your ignorance and apparent lack of ANY form of searching for an answer or your decided hatred towards guns of any sort lead me to believe the only person deserving of the "Idiot" moniker is yourself here.  

Thank goodness you rode in on the white horse with the (gunless) cavalry  ::) shaking your old-man fist and giving us a toothless tongue lashing, telling us to "go ride rollercoasters, ya whippersnappers!".

I don't own a gun, haven't owned a gun, but grew up with them in my house because my dad long ago taught me safety and respect when dealing with them.  I do NOT go hunting, EVER, nor do I target practice, but what I DO know, idiot is that you do NOT simply go around firing at the landscape.  

#1 - bullets ARE NOT cheap idiot so you don't fire them off haphazardly becasue

#2 - you may hit something that, idiot, ricochets back and hits you, perhaps fatally.

Now, the part about yelling "Yeehaw", maybe you've seen a few too many movies where this is done, but no one wanders around shooting off their gun into the air like some Dukes Of Hazzard re-run.  

If you'd like to help to change some opinions, perhaps even yours, idiot, then inform yourself, and come here to debate like the rest of these people have done.  You coming here to tell everyone who disagrees with you to "stop it and go do something else" and then ending your "enlightened missive" by calling those who don't agree with you an idiot...it does nothing but to verify the stereotype of anti-gun nuts.

You also offend people who COULD argue your side (more intelligently, idiot, than you are able to) to help someone see a difference.  

I AM such a person.  I am "physically" on your side (don't own, don't have in the house, don't hunt, don't care to have 'em), but am "mentally" on their side (I see that it's a simple freedom of rights issue in the U.S.).

Next time before you press "post", skip a button or two and hit "reset form".  THAT reply would be more well recieved than the tripe you posted above.  You're making me re-think NOT owning a gun now, just because of your sheer ignorance.  IDIOT

I wasn't saying owning guns is idiotic or anything like that. I was saying what those people were doing IN THE VIDEO (from the first post) was idiotic. Shooting up the landscape for no reason. No sorry. I meant annihilating the landscape with sub-machine guns for no reason.
I happen to like sports shooting, such as in the olympics, or target shooting at a range (in Australia we don't get much of it but I did it once in Europe under well controlled conditions), but those people in the video were simply misguided. Or idiotic if you prefer. And that opinion stands. No offence was meant to you Drew or anyone else who is a responsible gun owner.
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Re:Here's a nice one for the gun advocates
« Reply #73 on: September 27, 2004, 10:30:50 am »
Oh, and fredster, he's another one you won't like.  Unlike danny, boss is an Australian who LACKS a sense of humor, and thinks his nose is best placed squarely into American politics.

He SO dislikes me and my ilk that he thinks I should be on Saint's hit list...although it seems that Saint seems to have a better handle on what's friendly debate than boss, much to his chagrin  ::)

No sense of humour?? I beg to differ Sir.

I call thee to a duel. Pistols at ready you scoundrel... Sir.

PS:You're on Saint's hit list? How many is that now?  >:(
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Re:Here's a nice one for the gun advocates
« Reply #74 on: September 27, 2004, 07:44:20 pm »
no one wanders around shooting off their gun into the air like some Dukes Of Hazzard re-run.  
I don't think they used to fire their guns in the air in Dukes of Hazzard.
might I point you in the direction of one Sherrif Roscoe P Coltrane....koo kee kew kew kew.

Might I also add to the list one phat bazturd, Boss Hogg

And making an occasional appearance, one Uncle Jesse.

You, sir, are without merit in your DoH assessment.  

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Re:Here's a nice one for the gun advocates
« Reply #75 on: September 27, 2004, 07:46:46 pm »
I beg to differ Sir.

I call thee to a duel. Pistols at ready you scoundrel... Sir.
Danny, I give you exhibit A.  We 'Mercans ARE NOT the only ones to use "Sir" in indignation!  You tried to pawn that off on us...weasel!  OFF with your cupholders!  ;D
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Re:Here's a nice one for the gun advocates
« Reply #76 on: September 27, 2004, 08:01:17 pm »
i did hear somewhere that world-wide there are something like 300 deaths a year and many more injuries from falling bullets!! many of them in the middle-east where it's the norm to fire lots of guns in the air during celebrations (those guys are more gun-crazy than the yanks!)

Holy Crap!  I can't believe you brought this up.  I totally have personal experience (kind of) with this.  Bare in mind that this does not inform my position on gun control in any significant way.  It's just interesting and a bit amazing and sad.

So yeah....while I was growing up, there was this kid, same age as me, who lived down the street from me, about two blocks.  I'd known him since I was seven years old (though we weren't really friends beyond elementary school.  But we always went to the same school and church.  So anyway, when we were in tenth grade (or possibly eleventh), this would have been about 1995 or so, he walked out onto his back porch one day and just as he stepped out the door, BLAM!!!!!.  He's screaming in pain, covering his eye....blood streaming.  

A .22 bullet that had been fired from a rifle into the air like 2 miles away (they figured it out with all their crazy algebra) had dropped down, bounced off the patio and lodged itself right in his eyeball.  It was going so slow that the slug actually stopped in his eyeball and spun around.  The guy has one glass eye now.  

I'm totally serious.  One second stepping out onto his back porch, the next second WHAM!!!  Bullet in the eye.  Freak accident.

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Re:Here's a nice one for the gun advocates
« Reply #77 on: September 27, 2004, 08:09:50 pm »
So he started the whole "it's all fun and games until someone loses an eye"?
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Re:Here's a nice one for the gun advocates
« Reply #78 on: September 28, 2004, 06:01:20 am »
So he started the whole "it's all fun and games until someone loses an eye"?

damn, that cracks me up!


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Re:Here's a nice one for the gun advocates
« Reply #79 on: September 28, 2004, 09:54:20 am »
This happens all the time in the Greek island of Crete.  Especially during wedding and when Greece won the Euro Cup this year.