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| Howard_Casto:
--- Quote from: SNAAAKE on August 14, 2002, 10:53:36 pm --- so far i have destroyed 2 clasic cabs :)...and sold another one to someone(someone on this board) so he can destroy it...it was laying around in the warehouse for nothin...with marvel super heros marque..so i figured i do then sell..am i goin to hell too??? somehow i dont feel bad at all :D..i think old cabs should be convertered to mame unless its in really good shape..no point of trying to restore sf2 all over again.... --- End quote --- That's probably the worst thing I've ever heard.... There is NO excuse not to restore any of the sf2 cabs. All of the parts are still available and cheaply at that. If the sideart is in decent shape you can fully restore a sf series cab for around 60 bucks and around 120 if the sideart needs replaced. Someone who's a genuine fan of the sf series would have gladly done this but it's too late now because you killed it. Regarding the other comments about restoring cabs.... I do agree that some cabs are hard to restore, espeically the older ones, but it's better to keep it in it's current partial state until reproductions of the original parts can be made, or at least trying to keep everything as is when you mame it than to totally destroy it. Also a cab that has been converted a billion times and is in really bad shape probably belongs in the dumpster after the good parts have been removed. It would be next to impossible to get it back in orignal shape and in my humble opinon is also in too bad of shape to be mamed. I'm not diss-ing any of the converts out there but several of them, well.... look like a cab that was in really bad shape that was retro-fitted to play mame. What disgusts me about this hobby is people will spend several hundreds of dollars on controls, interfaces, displays, ect but they aren't willing to pay 60 to 80 dollars to build a cab from scratch or to have someone they know build it for them. It's kind of like making a dodge omni into a hot-rod. You've got a 15,000 engine in a 500$ chasis. Why put $500+ in a 15$ reject cab that the distributer didn't even deem worthy of being re-fitted? (And they don't give a damn about how well the cab looks, so you know it's in bad shape.) If you build your cab you get a cab that looks exactly how you want it to, rather than having to settle with whatever is available. You get a cab designed with mame in mind, so you can make it big enough to put in a large display and all of the other nice features that a mame cab needs. I don't even know how this became an argument..... Arcade games are designed to play ONE game, while scratch built mame cabs can be designed to play several. With a few noteable expections I don't know why anyone would want to use an orignal cab anyway, they are simply bad for maming. |
| AlanS17:
I just like the original feel of a real cabinet. But I agree about detroying classics. I've decided against adding MAME into my KI2 machine alongside the original game. I will, however, be getting another cabinet to fill the void. Don't know which one yet, but I have no intention of detroying a classic. I found a Tekken 2 for $200 at a local arcade that isn't even in the original cabinet. I'm thinking I may use that one. The game was apparently installed for the first time in this new cabinet that wasn't even for that game so it really IS a cabinet without a home. How perfect is that?? The cabinet isn't being stolen from some other game after all. My carpentry skills are probably less than par so if I tried to build one it would probably turn out like crap and not even look like an arcade machine. This other one has a 25" screen, and alot of CP real estate so it would suit me perfectly... I feel like I've reached the ultimate compromise. P.S. Anybody want to buy a Tekken 2 PCB? :) |
| SNAAAKE:
--- Quote from: Howard_Casto on August 16, 2002, 06:47:47 am --- That's probably the worst thing I've ever heard.... There is NO excuse not to restore any of the sf2 cabs. --- End quote --- hahaha !!! good one.. the cabs had crap in there...no side art...all painted black..metal control panel was from marvel super heros and no idea what else was wrong with it..besides i am not interested in restoring sf2 so i can play one game all the time..my plan was to make some quick cash ;D.now no one would ever buy no sf2 machine for like a $1000..thats what i got from the converted mame machine. sorry if anyone aint happy about it. :P |
| james:
i dont really know if i agree or dont agree with mameing classic cabs... right now im making a mame cab out of an old double dragon II machine, that was badly converted to MK. Theres no side art, and the sides were crap, however only the marquee/bezel were in good condition, the cp (while original) looked like ---steaming pile of meadow muffin---, as well as had 4 extra holes drilled in it. The boards/monitor had been ripped out. However, the way it looks now, if it wasnt for the extra buttons, you'd swear it was a mint, new, double dragon II cab. Theres probably some people out there thinking i should go through the hassles and put DD2 back in there, but I won't. I feel if you've taken something destined for the trash, even if its a pac-man, and made it presentable, youve done a service right there in itself. The only thing I have something against is making a MAME cab out of something that works. For me, no matter what the game, if the internals work the way they should, I wont do anything more than restore and clean up the externals. |
| Chris:
I guess part of the problem here is the definition of "Classic Cab". What is a classic cab? A Pac-Man cabinet, even without any working hardware, is obviously a classic cab. Tempest, Tron, Space Invaders, these are easy calls. But what about bombs like Midnight Resistance? Is a Super Contra cabinet a classic cab? What about Neo-Geo cabs, which are as generic as they come? Is any cab that's been in an actual coin-op environment automatically a classic? Should I have sought out Super Contra side art to try to restore my cabinet, or was it trash enough to restore as MAME? |
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