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| SirPoonga:
Double standard, huh? Do you take the classic cab and restore it in the name of preserving classic arcading or do you mame it to support the idea that mame preserves classic arcading. |
| Howard_Casto:
--- Quote from: SirPoonga on August 13, 2002, 07:14:50 pm --- Double standard, huh? Do you take the classic cab and restore it in the name of preserving classic arcading or do you mame it to support the idea that mame preserves classic arcading. --- End quote --- It's a silly comparison. Mame is a last ditch effort to save at least the gameplay of a game. The actual arcade machine is the actual arcade machine. As long as the roms are dumped a game can be emulated at any time, but once a cab is gone it can't really be brought back. The way I honestly feel about it is unless the cab has a hole in the side of it or it's been refitted so many times you can't even recognize it, it shoudln't be mamed. Really if the cab is in good enough shape to be mamed then there isn't any reason why you couldn't go the next step and restore it. And if you do mame a cab, but still have any of the original components, parting it out is inexcusable. These cabs need to be kept as complete as possible. Some of these cabs are truely a work of art, and even the one's that aren't represent a priceless childhood memory to someone. Like anything old and timeless, they deserve our respect. I would say the same thing about an old car or an old piece of furniture or even that old black and white tv you saved from the 50's. All of these things are considered highly collectable and are deemed to be too good to destroy. Why is it when you talk about more game related antiques that they suddenly become more expendable? |
| rampy:
--- Quote from: Howard_Casto on August 14, 2002, 12:57:35 pm --- Really if the cab is in good enough shape to be mamed then there isn't any reason why you couldn't go the next step and restore it. And if you do mame a cab, but still have any of the original components, parting it out is inexcusable. These cabs need to be kept as complete as possible. --- End quote --- Just to be contentious I'd like to point out if everyone did this, there wouldn't be any spare parts available to rebuild beatup/converted/etc classics back to their original glory (well, once all the NOS ran out)... and it would drive the price of the parts up so much that it would be financially difficult to reclaim some cabs former glory.... I don't really disagree with you about MAME-fying a classic cab that's in decent/recognizable shape... but if you have a pacman cab that's been converted a billion times (i.e. everything sanded down and painted black or other colors... CP replaced....) at some point it eventually becomes just a particle wood cabinet and not a classic anymore... although i'm probably just talking out of my @** anyways =) But I also see if someone buys something they should be able to do with it what they want... even if it is sacrelgious to RGVAC/arcade collecting community... although it is a shame most of the time what happens to classic cabinets... *shrug* I had a point, but I lost 3 paragraphs ago... rampy |
| Chris:
I used a real cabinet building my MAME machine mostly because it was cheaper ($61 from eBay). I did read the Manifesto before I started, and I'm glad I did... My cabinet was originally a Super Contra. It had been converted into a Tekken 2 machine by the time I got my hands on it, with who knows how many conversions in the middle. The conversion was not done cleanly. The marquee (gone by the time I got it) had been held in place by Plexiglas screwed into the T-molding. The control panel had its original overlay stripped and a laminated piece of a Tekken 2 poster used in its place, and new holes drilled for the extra buttons for Tekken 2. All of the original art had been removed and painted over in black with a paint roller. The original speaker panel had been replaced with a new piece of fiberboard with two square holes cut out for the speakers, so the speakers (two car speakers added after the conversion) didn't fit right. When I received it, the cabinet had its coin door, the Tekken-ified control panel (with two joysticks and 14 buttons), a power supply (not the original), a wiring harness (also not original), the flourescent lamp for the marquee, the glass, and the coin door (no mechs). No actual electronics, monitor, art, or marquee were present. I replaced the control panel and drilled one small hole underneath the control panel overhang to add a volume control. I also sanded off the rolled-on black, re-primed the cabinet, and repainted with black and added starfield and purple nebula art. These were the only external modifications to the cabinet. Everything that was in the cabinet was reused except for the old control panel wood and the power supply. I like to think that I've given this cabinet a new life: MAMEing it rather than maiming it. If there would have been any original art, I certainly would have preserved it. As it was, post-conversion, it really was more like "just a wooden cabinet" rather than a recognizable Super Contra. I have, however, tried to avoid modifying it any more than necessary for my needs. So have I given it new life, or destroyed a classic? You can see it in the state I received it and in its new life at http://mywebpages.comcast.net/celamantia/mamecab/ . |
| SNAAAKE:
so far i have destroyed 2 clasic cabs :)...and sold another one to someone(someone on this board) so he can destroy it...it was laying around in the warehouse for nothin...with marvel super heros marque..so i figured i do then sell..am i goin to hell too??? somehow i dont feel bad at all :D..i think old cabs should be convertered to mame unless its in really good shape..no point of trying to restore sf2 all over again.... |
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