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Re: First upright build-Tully Cabaret Plans.
« Reply #160 on: May 21, 2021, 10:47:29 am »
Regarding the joystick surround, I prefer the no-text version. As currently rendered, different point sizes just to shoehorn the words in there looks, well, it doesn't look good. I'd make the characters the same point size, meaning up/down would have to be smaller since there's already not enough room for left/right. But I'll also admit that my preference is for fewer words on ui/control surfaces anyway, so take anything I saw with a bucket of salt. :)

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Re: First upright build-Tully Cabaret Plans.
« Reply #161 on: May 26, 2021, 04:21:47 am »
After spending nearly 2 weeks in customs,my artwork finally arrived today  :applaud: I was worried it might have been tampered with but its all good.

Very happy with how it looks.

Quick question before i dive in.I have some carriage bolts,and use some in a rough CP i test software using.Im just a bit concerned the head diameter looks a bit small (8mm).If i tighten down will it cause any damage to the CPO? Is there an arcade cabinet standard?

Well Ive a few jobs to do in the bar first,then will hopefully get the CPO on today.

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Re: First upright build-Tully Cabaret Plans.
« Reply #162 on: May 26, 2021, 12:17:17 pm »
Sling up a photo of what you have :)  8mm does seem a little small.  With the artwork cramping them down tight will pull the artwork.  If they have the square collar just under the head then recommended make small square indent in panel for that collar to fit into and cut the small square of artwork out, this should/will stop the art being pulled. Hope that helps a bit.

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Re: First upright build-Tully Cabaret Plans.
« Reply #163 on: May 26, 2021, 01:04:41 pm »
heres a little gathering of what ive got:



You can see my U360 Im testing is bolted in with the same bolts.My worry is if I overtighten.

I get what your saying with the indent for the square neck on the bolt.Mybe a small countersink would achieve the same ?

I had a quick look online for a wider head,but the ones i saw all had a ribbed sort of surface (obviously for grip) under the dome.And that could cause problems aswell.

Ill do what you recomended.  :cheers:
« Last Edit: May 26, 2021, 01:06:37 pm by lomoverde »

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Re: First upright build-Tully Cabaret Plans.
« Reply #164 on: May 26, 2021, 02:22:19 pm »
They don't look too bad,  I would go with those, maybe hit them with a bit of black matt :) :) The bolts look pretty flat to the top so Looks like you've tightened those down into the wood which would likely create the recess the square needs to set into :) or the hole for the thread to go through is big enough to also accept the collar :) ideally the thread of the bolt should be able to go through the hole but not the collar itself

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Re: First upright build-Tully Cabaret Plans.
« Reply #165 on: May 28, 2021, 11:32:50 am »
Applied the CPO today,went without hitch really.Knocked the t-molding along the front and drilled out all the holes.

I did have the necessary sized spade bits but decided this wasent my old bartop,and bought some forstner bits that are better suited.They made easy work of the job,and although my player1 button is slightly off centre,its because i wasent totally vertical with the drill.I can easily sort that out.I was terrified of drilling the artwork,but the forstners sliced thru it super accurate.

Also the carriage bolts worked great,and i was worried about nothing.Whats the thoughts on leaving them silver,i actually quite like that.

 

I had to remove a bit of the CP support to accomodate the furthest right button,and Ill have to rethink my CP clamps as the buttons now obstruct that  :banghead:

 I am still remaking the CPO tho.With the smaller dustwasher and text.And possibly only 2 buttons. But for now Im very happy.Will order the servostik this weekend,and swap out the Ultrastik.I think its a great stick but maybe would feel better playing shmups.



Tomorrow hopefully Ill get the Bezel art fitted.And make a cardboard one to go round the screen.

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Re: First upright build-Tully Cabaret Plans.
« Reply #166 on: May 28, 2021, 11:36:22 am »
This looks glorious. That inset marquee is especially delicious. How dare you make me rethink my entire project.

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Re: First upright build-Tully Cabaret Plans.
« Reply #167 on: May 28, 2021, 03:52:52 pm »
This looks glorious. That inset marquee is especially delicious. How dare you make me rethink my entire project.

Thank you mate,very kind.

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Re: First upright build-Tully Cabaret Plans.
« Reply #168 on: May 28, 2021, 10:26:46 pm »
That is just absolutely stunning.  Seriously I love this cabinet.  Props for using a real CRT as well.   :cheers:


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Re: First upright build-Tully Cabaret Plans.
« Reply #169 on: May 29, 2021, 03:14:46 pm »
That is just absolutely stunning.  Seriously I love this cabinet.  Props for using a real CRT as well.   :cheers:

Thank you mate,Im happy with how its shaping up. :cheers:

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Re: First upright build-Tully Cabaret Plans.
« Reply #170 on: May 30, 2021, 12:41:54 pm »
Iíve said it before and Iíll say it again a thousand times over - great artwork elevates a good cab into something special.

lomoverde - you nailed this.  Looks soooo good man.  I actually like the silver bolt heads even though I would have said to paint them black.  If you have an extra maybe see how it looks?  Your artwork placement looks spot on - everything looks nice and centered. 

Canít say enough great things about how this is shaping up. 

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Re: First upright build-Tully Cabaret Plans.
« Reply #171 on: May 30, 2021, 01:36:57 pm »
Wow I'm super jealous how this is turning out. That artwork works so perfectly. Flawless victory.

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Re: First upright build-Tully Cabaret Plans.
« Reply #172 on: May 31, 2021, 03:28:28 pm »
Iíve said it before and Iíll say it again a thousand times over - great artwork elevates a good cab into something special.

lomoverde - you nailed this.  Looks soooo good man.  I actually like the silver bolt heads even though I would have said to paint them black.  If you have an extra maybe see how it looks?  Your artwork placement looks spot on - everything looks nice and centered. 

Canít say enough great things about how this is shaping up.

100% correct about how artwork can take any cab up a level.

As for the carriage bolts,Im sticking with silver,I dont want to pull them back thru the artwork to tell you the truth.

And so wish Id taken your advice about the U360 restrictor.It feels a bit like stirring a cup of coffee as it is.Im ordering the servostik,but will need the restrictor for the next build anyway.
Also Im getting the longer handle,its a bit tight on the knuckles as it is.

I think when (or possibly if) i do the artwork redesign,I may do away with the rings around the buttons also.

Thanks for the compliments,but without @Gilrock it would be a lot less.

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Re: First upright build-Tully Cabaret Plans.
« Reply #173 on: May 31, 2021, 03:29:18 pm »
Wow I'm super jealous how this is turning out. That artwork works so perfectly. Flawless victory.

Cheers bud,Im going to copy you and go tully horizontal next.

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Re: First upright build-Tully Cabaret Plans.
« Reply #174 on: May 31, 2021, 04:10:11 pm »
Wow I'm super jealous how this is turning out. That artwork works so perfectly. Flawless victory.

Cheers bud,Im going to copy you and go tully horizontal next.
Do it. Once you got both its awesome. I'd like to do an arkanoid one

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Re: First upright build-Tully Cabaret Plans.
« Reply #175 on: June 01, 2021, 09:10:00 am »
Looks awesome....can't wait to see it with the bezel art.

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Re: First upright build-Tully Cabaret Plans.
« Reply #176 on: June 01, 2021, 09:54:35 pm »
Best. Tully. Ever.


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Re: First upright build-Tully Cabaret Plans.
« Reply #177 on: June 07, 2021, 07:28:54 am »
Best. Tully. Ever.


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too kind  :cheers:
It may have just took a turn for the worse tho...

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Re: First upright build-Tully Cabaret Plans.
« Reply #178 on: June 07, 2021, 07:40:17 am »
Ive finally found some free time this morning to tackle the bezel art.Been wanting to for days,but didnt want any disturbances mid job.

 First off I got the prints done at Rockstarprint in the UK and am really happy with the quality and price :applaud:

It actually came with a little instruction sheet,and told me something I never would have known otherwise.After cleaning the glass,and spraying water with soap all over,It advised to tape the centre section in place before removing the backing.
 This proved so helpful when positioning the bezel.The bottom edge is really quite narrow,and without the centre holding it all square,I probably would have got into all sorts of dramas.

So its all in place and ive squeegied all the water out and removed the centre.I had to remove a tiny slither from either side as it was just lifting as i tried to slide it back into the cabinet.But a brand new stanley blade,and a metal rule worked a treat.

After Ive got it all back together,was gutted to find that the sort of orange trim at the bottom isnt central:



After checking back in this thread,I can see it never was central and I just never noticed  :dizzy:

Totally confused now how I feel about it.Am going to spend the rest of the day staring at it and see how it grows.




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Re: First upright build-Tully Cabaret Plans.
« Reply #179 on: June 09, 2021, 05:30:18 pm »
Ive now accepted the off centre bezel art as a quirk of the original(should have kept that artists sig)
 
 had an issue with my CP clamps now the buttons were in the way.
 so cut away part of the support bracket so the clamps could fasten a bit wider on the underside.This recess in the batons now solves the issue of and forward/backward sliding.Id planned to use velcro for this but now no need:



Getting the reach of the clamps just right seems a bit hit and miss,but got it sorted.Nice and tight fit now.

Delivery arrived as well,servostik,and some bits for the u360 Ill use another time.



Had a boost of enthusiasm knowing I can have it playable tomorrow.  :applaud:


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Re: First upright build-Tully Cabaret Plans.
« Reply #180 on: September 08, 2021, 04:44:46 am »
Ive now accepted the off centre bezel art as a quirk of the original(should have kept that artists sig)

I would have changed it to make it perfect and just print it again.  :cheers:

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Re: First upright build-Tully Cabaret Plans.
« Reply #181 on: September 08, 2021, 01:11:26 pm »

I would have changed it to make it perfect and just print it again.  :cheers:

Id forgotton about that   :angry:

Havent even looked at the cab in nearly 3 months.I couldnt stand people touching it any longer so its in a store room with a sheet over it now.Come October when the tourists have left Ill be getting back to work on it.




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Re: First upright build-Tully Cabaret Plans.
« Reply #182 on: September 09, 2021, 04:39:41 am »

I would have changed it to make it perfect and just print it again.  :cheers:

Id forgotton about that   :angry:

Havent even looked at the cab in nearly 3 months.I couldnt stand people touching it any longer so its in a store room with a sheet over it now.Come October when the tourists have left Ill be getting back to work on it.

No problem reminding  :laugh:

Make a cabinet with actual coins or pay-id sensor for your tourists  ;)

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« Reply #183 on: September 19, 2021, 01:23:29 pm »

I would have changed it to make it perfect and just print it again.  :cheers:

Id forgotton about that   :angry:

Havent even looked at the cab in nearly 3 months.I couldnt stand people touching it any longer so its in a store room with a sheet over it now.Come October when the tourists have left Ill be getting back to work on it.

I know the feeling.  I build with the idea that my friends and family will have a great time but when they are actually playing I want to leave the room.  Yanking on the joysticks, leaning on it, mashing buttons, etc.  Gives me anxiety.

This project came out so awesome.   :cheers:

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Re: First upright build-Tully Cabaret Plans.
« Reply #184 on: October 01, 2021, 04:18:12 pm »
I didnít reread the thread but is your marquee opening edge painted or did you run t-molding around it?

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Re: First upright build-Tully Cabaret Plans.
« Reply #185 on: October 07, 2021, 02:43:55 pm »
I didnít reread the thread but is your marquee opening edge painted or did you run t-molding around it?

Sorry bit late now,painted.
The rear of the panel is recessed like yours to bring the marquee closer to the front,2 sheets of perspex with the artwork sandwiched sit flush with the inside of the panel.

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« Reply #186 on: October 07, 2021, 02:52:58 pm »
I didnít reread the thread but is your marquee opening edge painted or did you run t-molding around it?

Sorry bit late now,painted.
The rear of the panel is recessed like yours to bring the marquee closer to the front,2 sheets of perspex with the artwork sandwiched sit flush with the inside of the panel.

Whew!  My instincts were right.  Love this cab. :cheers:

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Re: First upright build-Tully Cabaret Plans.
« Reply #187 on: October 07, 2021, 03:01:47 pm »
Business is winding down for the season so Im having a proper look at this thing again.
 The sideart is something I can be getting on with now without having to drag the cab out of its store.

Im not finished with the idea of stencilling the sides just yet,but in the meantime pixartprinting  looks very cheap and ive noticed they have transparent vinyl.

Anyway does anyone have any experience with this transparent vinyl ? or indeed this website.

If i choose the transparent option here:



What should I be choosing here :



This is the almost finished sideart,the yellow would be transparent:



Also what would the vinyl option be if I wanted to test print some different CPOs ? I love the one I got already,but its very shiny and slick.Ive seen close up shots of other peoples on here,and they look like they have a more rough surface.
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Re: First upright build-Tully Cabaret Plans.
« Reply #188 on: November 30, 2021, 10:12:37 am »
An update on my progress:

 Ive remade the enclosure behind the marquee containing the led strip light.I did have a problem with the light leaking everywhere , but all good now.

Wired up the coin reject bulb.

Have to make a  cardboard bezel to go around the screen.

got these printed up for making my sideart stencils:

 

Printed on clear vinyl I had a slight hope they could go on as is but the clear parts are more smoky than clear.
Anyway Im planning how ill go about this,cutting out the main parts,then maybe using some of the off cuts in the corners to trace the detail on the rockets.
Im not totally happy with some parts of the art,but it seems my basic grasp of inkscape has been deleted from my brain during the last few months.So it is was it is and I just want to get it done.

When i painted the cab,I found the finish a bit chalky and worried about keeping it clean,so i put a couple of coats of this over the yellow:



Went on really easy and has left a nice invisible coat that can be wiped clean.However Im not sure how the stencil will bond to it now.

Can anyone recomend a paint that i can roll over the stencil ? Id rather not have to coat the whole side again with the laquer afterwards.




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« Reply #189 on: November 30, 2021, 02:53:15 pm »
This is a lovely looking cabinet. Love the colour and the artwork.

I'm more of a Super Cobra man than a Scramble one though!  :cheers:

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« Reply #190 on: November 30, 2021, 03:05:00 pm »
Ive remade the enclosure behind the marquee containing the led strip light.I did have a problem with the light leaking everywhere , but all good now.

Got any pics of this?  Iím currently trying to work this outÖ

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Re: First upright build-Tully Cabaret Plans.
« Reply #191 on: December 01, 2021, 02:12:49 pm »
Ive remade the enclosure behind the marquee containing the led strip light.I did have a problem with the light leaking everywhere , but all good now.

Got any pics of this?  Iím currently trying to work this outÖ

Nothing special :



Theres 4 strips of wood,all overhang the recess about 1/4 inch,holding the 2 sheets of plexi snug.Then a board fastened to them with 3 rows of led strip on it.

Excuse my wiring i still have to tidy it all and replace some.



the bottom horizontal strip is glued to the cab,and holds the marquee in place when the light board is off.

When I remove the tube to fit the bezel,Ill be able to get my drill in,and will replace the screws with bolts into threaded inserts.

It looks a bit tatty but works perfect.


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« Reply #192 on: December 01, 2021, 02:28:51 pm »
This is a lovely looking cabinet. Love the colour and the artwork.

I'm more of a Super Cobra man than a Scramble one though!  :cheers:

[goes to check out Rockstarprint ...]

Do you know what ? I prefer it as well now.  :applaud:

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Re: First upright build-Tully Cabaret Plans.
« Reply #193 on: December 03, 2021, 09:20:12 am »
Thanks for the pics.  This is interesting because it is not the way I was planning to do this at all...  Hmmm...  I have the recess like you for the marquee to sit in but I was just going to make a box out of cardboard or something slightly larger than the marquee and about 1" deep.  I am planning to cover the inside with tin foil and put the LED strip inside somehow.  THe part I'm not 100% sure about is how to attach the box to the inside of the cabinet securely.  Velcro maybe?   

Just looking through this thread again and man what a cool looking cabinet.  Bold colors and great art.  :cheers:

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Re: First upright build-Tully Cabaret Plans.
« Reply #194 on: January 17, 2022, 02:44:19 pm »
Quick update,to spur me on this week more than being very interesting reading for others.

After finding out the transparent stickers would have looked crap as they were,I decided to cut them up to make stencils.Rather than tracing them as Id originally planned.

I wanted to cut the black parts from one,then use another with the red cut out.Problem was Id only ordered 1 of each,and it turns out they dont keep a record of the order and wouldnt be able to send me exact duplicates.

So I checked on my original prints and decided they were a bit too small anyway:



So I printed out some rough tests and decided on this size:



Today 2 of each side arrived.28 euros (32 dollars delivered). This time I didnt bother with the lamination as I knew there was no chance they were getting stuck on the cab:



Theres a bit more bend to these unlaminated ones,and they are printed on translucent vinyl again,as this should help with placement.

So in the next couple of days hopefully,Ill remove the monitor ( which I need to do anyway to make a cardboard bezel ) and can then lie the cab on its side and either transform its look...or totally ---fudgesicle--- it up.

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Re: First upright build-Tully Cabaret Plans.
« Reply #195 on: January 18, 2022, 08:32:17 am »
Started the stencil cuts today,started with the black half which will have to be laid down first.

 The black shadowing parts Ive cut inside where the lines are drawn,this will mean the black underlaps the red, rather than struggling with placement of the second stensil and butting the 2 colours together side by side.Hopefully.

With so many cuts,the vinyl becomes unmanageable.Im assuming a professional stensil would have a paper back.And also a clear front peeled off after placement.Mine has a load of painters tape so it keeps its shape during placement:



I bought a cutting board and plenty of fresh blades.This part took about an hour.Ive not had a drink since xmas so hand was steady.  ;D However Im just getting over a bout of bronchitis and am still a bit wheezy,All that holding my breath during the trickier corners has left me feeling quite ---fouled up beyond all recognition---,so Ill tackle the next step tomorrow.

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Re: First upright build-Tully Cabaret Plans.
« Reply #196 on: January 18, 2022, 09:45:51 am »
Looking good.  The side art is really going to push this over the top.   :cheers:

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Re: First upright build-Tully Cabaret Plans.
« Reply #197 on: January 19, 2022, 09:20:41 am »
Want to get some of this done everyday now before my enthusiasm wanes.
 Removed the monitor and got the cab onto its side,decided on the placement with the as yet uncut red half of the stencil:



Swapped that over for the cut black paint stencil,Id done a test run with some offcut of the vinyl lightly spraying with soaped water.The vinyl slid about as expected,but the painters tape not as well.So deciided to apply it to the side dry.first half went down great:



Second half was a lot trickier,a bit like laying out a spiders web.Got there in the end and learnt a few things that should make the next 3 stencils easier.Looks great on with no lift or visible problem areas:



Next masked off the whole cab.Using that gossamer thin sheeting you get in DIY stores was more problematic than the stencil  :banghead: .You walk past that stuff and its up in the air like a cloud of smoke:



First lightish coat of black applied,and so far so good:



Made a small test peice using some offcut vinyl,and cut a random pattern into it,Was eager to see how bad the first coat would bleed under the stencil,so removed half of it after about 5 mins:



Peeled off really easy,and wasent seeing the spiders legs I was expecting from the uncured paint.Although the test is on laminate and smoother than my side panel,Im confident the cab will have a similar sharp line as well.
 Second coat tommorow.


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« Reply #198 on: January 19, 2022, 09:57:42 am »
I love to see stenciled artwork.

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Re: First upright build-Tully Cabaret Plans.
« Reply #199 on: January 20, 2022, 06:21:00 am »
Back on it this morning.Ran a couple of tests before starting on the real thing again.Watched a couple more YT vids last night,and one guy recomended lightly rubbing over your first coat with a washing up sponge.I gave that a try,and it does very slightly rough up the surface,but also really sharpens up your edge line.Any tiny lines of bleed were removed from yesterdays test peice.

 Gave it a rub over the first coat I had,It really exposes the edges of the stencil,and should help show where the paint needs to be concentrated:



I then got started laying the second coat down.Now the only thing Im still not to sure of is would the paint go on better if the cab was stood up and I was spraying a vertical surface ??

Anyway,I brought a worklamp to the job today and made sure I got full coverage,as there is no 3rd coat.My earlier tests had come up with 12 minutes of drying time seemed about right,so after 12 I removed the masking:



 I found it really hard to not wait longer and let the paint dry totally.But Id run a test earlier,and everyone says peel off while its tacky....So...



Smashed it  :applaud:

 Came off great,and am super happy with the result.
Couple of slight bleeds here and there.But the worst ones will have red over them.
 Going to wait 48hrs for this to fully cure before laying the red stencil.