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MAME 2020 vs 2002
negative1:
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--- Quote from: Mike A on September 12, 2020, 10:29:18 am ---When the sound is wrong on a game it is broken. If you don't care that is fine. It bugs the crap out of me when the sound is bad. I appreciate the fact that they are still fixing those issues.
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Indeed, I've argued for a while that 'no sound at all' or 'severely broken sound' should be considered 'not working' in MAME terms.
Sound is an important part of many games. From audio either telegraphing events, alerting to you something that has happened, or simply just creating the overall immersive mood of a game, it needs to be correct. It can give you a frame of reference for timing too, if I think to many games I've played the rhythm used for a series of tricky platform jumps can come from something as simple as knowing when the sound effect to a pick-up ends and synchronizing yourself for that.
A lot of arcades idid have weak sounds, because the 'standard' for Arcade audio on non-dedicated cabs for a long time was mono audio out of an awful speaker, drowned out by everything else in the arcade, but that doesn't mean you can ignore it entirely and still pretend the game is fine.
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sound is important, i agree.
but to me if the game works without it i'm fine.
i turn the sound down or off, and play my own music for most games, or games i've mastered.
hearing the same sounds or music for hours on end is boring, and distracts me.
good sound is a perk, but not necessary for setting records on games.
later
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mahuti:
If you play it and have fun, then its working FOR YOU. If your friends are like mine they couldn't tell the difference.
There is absolutely an objective standard for whether a game is fully working. But there is also a subjective standard which it must meet to be enjoyable to each person. If it meets that standard then rock on. If not, then better hardware is a must. If one is a purist in general then you'll definitely need the best hardware possible.
JRobATL:
Steve,
Backing up to a point before some tangents were taken, you had asked about hardware performance. I believe you can get a used old i4 or i5 processor running Win10 for about as cheap as a raspberry pi. Are there size/space limitations that drew you to a ras pi?
And to your other question, for me personally it would be worth getting a more current version of Mame and a newer romset. 2002-2020 is an awful lot of change logs to have to review. ...but in terms of resources, that's where I would start.
Howard_Casto:
^This^
An old pc is always cheaper per performance dollar than a pi.
Kingcade:
To the OP and Tobias, there are lots of people running Pi setups (including me) quite happily. The Pi does have its advantages, and it works quite well for older arcade games. Some games require samples to be used in place of hardware emulation.
Also, check out this thread where bbegin has MAME .224 running on a Raspberry Pi 4B, apparently with good performance:
http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php/topic,162889.0.html
Haze, it would be good to know some examples of older games that might test the Pi due to the latest MAME audio emulation, for example. Do you have some specific games to try?
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