It seems as Arcade 1up has a new spinner to replace the crappy one they had, and now there is a Thunderstick Spinner for the 1up. I know the original Asteroide spinner was NOT a spinner but a 3 bit rotary switch. Does anyone know if the new arcade 1up or the Thunderstick is a real spinner with +,-,X+, X- output that I could run in to an ipac-2 board or in to an ELF board. I know the Thunderstick has a board that will convert it to USB, and I thought it would also convert the new 1iup spinner to usb as well. I can not find ANY data or info about the Thunderstick spinner except video from Glenn on his retro game channel.