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| Trnzaddict:
I’m probably going to pick up that extreme sensor bar. According to my camera one of my led’s on my original sensor bar pcb is burnt out anyway. The fact that it remedies the problem that you can shoot however you feel comfortable and not have to worry about calibration issues makes it worth it, not to mention I’ll be able to stand closer to my monitor. It’s a win win. |
| Zebra:
--- Quote from: Trnzaddict on October 10, 2019, 08:51:35 pm ---I’m probably going to pick up that extreme sensor bar. According to my camera one of my led’s on my original sensor bar pcb is burnt out anyway. The fact that it remedies the problem that you can shoot however you feel comfortable and not have to worry about calibration issues makes it worth it, not to mention I’ll be able to stand closer to my monitor. It’s a win win. --- End quote --- Please let us know how it works out for you. I'm sure there is a lot of us here that would want one once you confirm that it delivers what it promises. |
| Zebra:
--- Quote from: Titchgamer on October 10, 2019, 05:07:49 pm --- --- Quote from: Zebra on October 10, 2019, 03:48:12 pm ---Using a white border instead of led sensors would have the same issue with distance if it worked in the same way as an Aimtrak. I'm not sure it does though. From the info provided on the Sinden Youtube videos, it sounded like it uses an infrared laser dot to determine where you are aiming while the white boarder just defines the screen edge for the camera. I.e. It takes a photo when you pull the trigger and calculates where in the white box the dot is after making adjustments for your angle. Perhaps it could still function if one of the white borders was out of the camera view. It seems like it could work with just two visible borders. I guess we'll see for certain when people start receiving their finished guns. It looks like he's sitting 8 - 10 feet from the screen in all the video's. It's hard to know if this is due to a design limitation or just the guy's preference. It will matter to a lot of people if it can't be used at arcade-like distances (this was most people's number two complaint with Aimtraks after accuracy). --- End quote --- The sinden still has distance limitations as the camera inside the gun needs to be able to see the full border at all times to work out where it is in relation to the corners. What makes it different to the Aim Trak is that because it uses a camera it can use a wide angle lens making the distance shorter. I never got to testing the minimum distances and he has changed the camera since so it would be different now anyways but I was playing on my 42” screen at around 5/6 feet. I could of gone in to around 4 I think but I then would of been sat on the floor not my comfy sofa lol But regardless with this type of tech you will always have some kind of screen size to distance ratio. Obviously for a 4:3 this will be less than a 16:9. --- End quote --- 5-6 feet from a 42" screen would acceptable imo. I play 4-5 feet from my 29" crt arcade monitors with my real light guns so it seems about right (if it's as accurate as an official namco guncon 2 at that distance). The old light guns have the opposite problem in that they work best closer to the screen and stop registering shots when you stand too far back. I had to put one of the new amplified Namco sensor boards in my Time Crisis arcade gun to make it register shots at the distance I like to play from. It is worth remembering that no light gun tech is perfect, including real light guns on a crt. On the wide angle lens, it should be possible to add that in any IR gun. The arcadeguns.com chaps sell a modified aimtrak with a larger / wider and apparently higher quality lens. It's just a shame they made it too expensive to be worth considering. |
| Trnzaddict:
--- Quote from: Zebra on October 11, 2019, 01:25:55 pm --- --- Quote from: Trnzaddict on October 10, 2019, 08:51:35 pm ---I’m probably going to pick up that extreme sensor bar. According to my camera one of my led’s on my original sensor bar pcb is burnt out anyway. The fact that it remedies the problem that you can shoot however you feel comfortable and not have to worry about calibration issues makes it worth it, not to mention I’ll be able to stand closer to my monitor. It’s a win win. --- End quote --- Please let us know how it works out for you. I'm sure there is a lot of us here that would want one once you confirm that it delivers what it promises. --- End quote --- Well I installed the extreme sensor bar today. To be honest I don’t see any difference at all in the way it tracks and making calibration easier. I still have to be the same amount of distance away from my screen too which it says you can be much closer to the screen because of the new leds that are used. AND my damn Aimtraks still have a very tough time shooting the bottom middle calibration point even though the utility software IR test see 2 points no matter where I point my guns on the screen. Latest firmware upgrade did not help. They are from arcadeguns.com and were purchased back in 2013. Could be the ir cams are starting to go on them too but.... Honestly if Sinden finds a way to make that white border not as prominent as it is currently I’ll be chucking the aimtraks and purchasing those. |
| Titchgamer:
--- Quote from: Trnzaddict on November 02, 2019, 03:25:27 pm --- --- Quote from: Zebra on October 11, 2019, 01:25:55 pm --- --- Quote from: Trnzaddict on October 10, 2019, 08:51:35 pm ---I’m probably going to pick up that extreme sensor bar. According to my camera one of my led’s on my original sensor bar pcb is burnt out anyway. The fact that it remedies the problem that you can shoot however you feel comfortable and not have to worry about calibration issues makes it worth it, not to mention I’ll be able to stand closer to my monitor. It’s a win win. --- End quote --- Please let us know how it works out for you. I'm sure there is a lot of us here that would want one once you confirm that it delivers what it promises. --- End quote --- Well I installed the extreme sensor bar today. To be honest I don’t see any difference at all in the way it tracks and making calibration easier. I still have to be the same amount of distance away from my screen too which it says you can be much closer to the screen because of the new leds that are used. AND my damn Aimtraks still have a very tough time shooting the bottom middle calibration point even though the utility software IR test see 2 points no matter where I point my guns on the screen. Latest firmware upgrade did not help. They are from arcadeguns.com and were purchased back in 2013. Could be the ir cams are starting to go on them too but.... Honestly if Sinden finds a way to make that white border not as prominent as it is currently I’ll be chucking the aimtraks and purchasing those. --- End quote --- Thanks for the update. So as predicted it never worked. |
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