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| Zebra:
--- Quote from: 2huwman on March 06, 2020, 03:10:21 am ---Yeah, the iron sights are virtual - the whole gun is! If you watch the first video I linked to, you can see the guy in the window in the bottom left corner with the headset on, holding the controllers up to his face, doing the reloading actions, etc. Everything on the main video is what he sees in the headset. What doesn't come across well in the videos is that everything is in stereoscopic 3d, just like real life! You really don't need to worry about whether the iron sights are real or virtual - your brain perceives the virtual gun as a 3d object in 3d space, so it's the same experience as in real life (as long as the virtual gun tracks the position of the real controllers well, and it's very low lag - which are both true now). So it doesn't feel like cheating at all. --- End quote --- That does sound cool. I'd definitely be interested to try it at some point. Plus, anything that generates renewed interest in the light gun genre is a good thing. I like the idea of this sort of innovation a lot more than what I see with the PDP Mars product which I see as a step backwards. I was looking at the first home light guns from the 70's on ebay recently and their design has literally been getting progressively worse with every generation. The home guns being made for VR actually look promising (in terms of looks) which is nice to see. |
| 2huwman:
Yeah some of the new games are definitely worth checking out if you have access to PC based VR. The PSVR tracking just isn't reliable enough (but I had quite a lot of fun with Farpoint on PSVR with the PSVR AIM controller anyway). Also, do most people use iron sights when playing lightgun games? I basically never do - even when I'm playing on my HotD arcade machine, or Time Crisis 2 on the PS2 with a Guncon, I tend to hold the gun at chest height with my arm mostly straightened. I find I can be accurate enough holding the gun that way, and it makes it easier to move the gun quickly from one target to the next which is key in these games. |
| Zebra:
--- Quote from: 2huwman on March 07, 2020, 04:21:53 am ---Yeah some of the new games are definitely worth checking out if you have access to PC based VR. The PSVR tracking just isn't reliable enough (but I had quite a lot of fun with Farpoint on PSVR with the PSVR AIM controller anyway). Also, do most people use iron sights when playing lightgun games? I basically never do - even when I'm playing on my HotD arcade machine, or Time Crisis 2 on the PS2 with a Guncon, I tend to hold the gun at chest height with my arm mostly straightened. I find I can be accurate enough holding the gun that way, and it makes it easier to move the gun quickly from one target to the next which is key in these games. --- End quote --- How a player holds the gun is besides the point. What matters is if the light gun is capable of accuracy and consistency or if you have to play with crosshairs on-screen on arcade games that didn't have them. As a side point, holding and aiming a real light gun properly on games where accuracy matters improves performance. If I don't, I usually miss difficult shots immediately after shooting off-screen to reload. Learning to get better and 1cc a light gun game is what gives it replay value imo. |
| 2huwman:
--- Quote from: Zebra on March 07, 2020, 09:30:56 pm --- How a player holds the gun is besides the point. What matters is if the light gun is capable of accuracy and consistency or if you have to play with crosshairs on-screen on arcade games that didn't have them. As a side point, holding and aiming a real light gun properly on games where accuracy matters improves performance. If I don't, I usually miss difficult shots immediately after shooting off-screen to reload. Learning to get better and 1cc a light gun game is what gives it replay value imo. --- End quote --- Of course accuracy is key, I'm just genuinely interested if people normally use iron sights to aim, as I almost never do. |
| Howard_Casto:
It depends upon the game. Some games have some ridiculously small targets and for those I might actually aim, but generally I just shoot from the hip as targets on most games are large. Most of your sega games can be beaten by just shooting in the center constantly. I kind of ruins the magic once you discover that. |
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