Arcade Collecting > Arcade1Up & Similar
Could the Arcade 1up thing have been succesful if handled differently?
Mike A:
Companies do not consider it a success if they can jam retailers with a ton of units. Getting the final product into the hands of consumers at the right price is what matters. If retailers get hosed because they have to heavily discount a product they will not likely make that mistake again. WalMart will demand lower pricing next time, or scale back orders, or pass completely. It all depends on how much money is being made or lost.
The price drops affect Tastemakers. It damages their ability to get the price they want for their products in the future.
Osirus23:
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--- Quote from: ark_ader on February 26, 2019, 12:59:06 am ---
--- Quote from: Haze on February 25, 2019, 05:30:29 pm ---They apparently couldn't even be bothered to use hardware good enough to use a version of MAME they were legally entitled to use, for basic games that weren't even overly demanding.
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Oh they are legal now, are they?
You should draft a letter to the 1up crew and apologise for your unprofessional behaviour, on this forum and Mameworld.
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So desperate to troll that you can't even be bothered to read the post. I said they couldn't be bothered to use hardware capable of running a MAME version they were entitled to use. They cheaped out and did it the illegal way.
WHY hasn't saint banned you yet I don't know, you contribute absolutely nothing useful to this forum, and are probably one of the reasons it's in decline.
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So when is the legal action against A1Up going to move past the "complain about it on forums" phase?
DrakeTungsten:
If only success were measured in the number of posts generated at BYOC, these things would be a hit.
--- Quote from: Osirus23 on February 26, 2019, 12:18:06 pm ---
--- Quote from: Haze on February 26, 2019, 06:07:18 am ---
--- Quote from: ark_ader on February 26, 2019, 12:59:06 am ---
--- Quote from: Haze on February 25, 2019, 05:30:29 pm ---They apparently couldn't even be bothered to use hardware good enough to use a version of MAME they were legally entitled to use, for basic games that weren't even overly demanding.
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Oh they are legal now, are they?
You should draft a letter to the 1up crew and apologise for your unprofessional behaviour, on this forum and Mameworld.
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So desperate to troll that you can't even be bothered to read the post. I said they couldn't be bothered to use hardware capable of running a MAME version they were entitled to use. They cheaped out and did it the illegal way.
WHY hasn't saint banned you yet I don't know, you contribute absolutely nothing useful to this forum, and are probably one of the reasons it's in decline.
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So when is the legal action against A1Up going to move past the "complain about it on forums" phase?
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If you're trying to insinuate something, it's lost on this casual observer. If not, why do you care so much that you have to keep repeating this? It can't just be a general distaste for complaining, otherwise you'd be making similar comments in half the other threads around here. It might be time to give it a rest.
Ian:
--- Quote from: Zebra on February 24, 2019, 04:07:39 pm ---Now they are relegated to the bargain bins of history...
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Really? because they did well enough to release a second wave of new games.
Zebra:
--- Quote from: Haze on February 25, 2019, 05:30:29 pm ---
--- Quote from: Zebra on February 24, 2019, 04:07:39 pm ---surely they could have gotten Ridge Racer, Daytona, Star Wars Trilogy
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That would also have meant using less ---smurfy--- hardware, or actually porting the games, using existing ports of the games, or making an effort with their emulator licensing.
They apparently couldn't even be bothered to use hardware good enough to use a version of MAME they were legally entitled to use, for basic games that weren't even overly demanding.
At least the electronics and software side of thing was clearly done at the lowest possible cost, like the majority of these products. From what has been said elsewhere the rest wasn't much better.
Minimize costs, maximize profit, don't really care about the actual product. That's all I get from everything I've read about these; they probably spent more on trying to hide what they were doing / make things awkward for people hacking them. Games with actual system requirements were never on the cards, regardless of if they could get licenses or not.
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It's true what you said about them choosing poor hardware for what they released but the question is really about whether the idea has more potential if they hadn't made those questionable decisions on hardware and quality?
My personal belief is that the market can stand a higher price for a genuinely high quality product but that not price is low enough for garbage.
For years people said there was no market for expensive arcade quality peripherals but brands like Logitech challenged this. Now, my local Best Buy (as mainstream as it gets) is selling $400 force feedback wheels for the PS4. They seem to regularly sell out too...
I can see a market for a pair of force feedback Daytona bartops. It's value above and beyond a PI 3 mame set-up.There is a large number of arcade games where the experience can never be properly replicated without the right controls.
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