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Could the Arcade 1up thing have been succesful if handled differently?
ark_ader:
--- Quote from: Haze on February 25, 2019, 05:30:29 pm ---They apparently couldn't even be bothered to use hardware good enough to use a version of MAME they were legally entitled to use, for basic games that weren't even overly demanding.
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Oh they are legal now, are they?
You should draft a letter to the 1up crew and apologise for your unprofessional behaviour, on this forum and Mameworld.
opt2not:
--- Quote from: ark_ader on February 26, 2019, 12:59:06 am ---
--- Quote from: Haze on February 25, 2019, 05:30:29 pm ---They apparently couldn't even be bothered to use hardware good enough to use a version of MAME they were legally entitled to use, for basic games that weren't even overly demanding.
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Oh they are legal now, are they?
You should draft a letter to the 1up crew and apologise for your unprofessional behaviour, on this forum and Mameworld.
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Haze:
--- Quote from: ark_ader on February 26, 2019, 12:59:06 am ---
--- Quote from: Haze on February 25, 2019, 05:30:29 pm ---They apparently couldn't even be bothered to use hardware good enough to use a version of MAME they were legally entitled to use, for basic games that weren't even overly demanding.
--- End quote ---
Oh they are legal now, are they?
You should draft a letter to the 1up crew and apologise for your unprofessional behaviour, on this forum and Mameworld.
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So desperate to troll that you can't even be bothered to read the post. I said they couldn't be bothered to use hardware capable of running a MAME version they were entitled to use. They cheaped out and did it the illegal way.
WHY hasn't saint banned you yet I don't know, you contribute absolutely nothing useful to this forum, and are probably one of the reasons it's in decline.
Zebra:
--- Quote from: JDFan on February 25, 2019, 11:58:19 am ---As far as Tastemakers is concerned these were a very successful product - and the plans for the future show they are still thinking it will be going forward ( new bartops, wall hangers, new cabinets planned for 2019 in addition to the add on products they have planned ) - They sold a lot more of these than they had initially thought they would and have made a good amount of profit on the line.( The discounts retailers offered didn't effect tastemakers since they already made their wholesale sale.) They have said it is already a 9 figure sales product for their company which can't really be called a failure !
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That does not make sense. Selling more than expected would = stock shortages and prices holding or being sold above the recommended price. Selling less than expected = discounts and stock dumping from the bargain bin.
That is.... unless you think they planned to produce far more than they could sell with the intention of leaving tons of excess inventory to be sold from bargain bins... I.e., they planned to fail as that is the only way to consider it a success.
When Steve Jobs first released the Ipad, did he start discounting it within months of it going on sale? No... because it was successful and prices held for years. If he would have said "$600.... ok $550..... ok, ok $450 but not 1 cent lower..... alright $350 but that's my limit.... ok how about $300.....", that would have indicated a problem with sales...
The fact that the manufacturer is looking to release other products, to me, sounds more like they have realized what other arcade sellers have known for a while: that most people will not buy anything big.
JDFan:
--- Quote from: Zebra on February 26, 2019, 10:35:50 am ---
--- Quote from: JDFan on February 25, 2019, 11:58:19 am ---As far as Tastemakers is concerned these were a very successful product - and the plans for the future show they are still thinking it will be going forward ( new bartops, wall hangers, new cabinets planned for 2019 in addition to the add on products they have planned ) - They sold a lot more of these than they had initially thought they would and have made a good amount of profit on the line.( The discounts retailers offered didn't effect tastemakers since they already made their wholesale sale.) They have said it is already a 9 figure sales product for their company which can't really be called a failure !
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That does not make sense. Selling more than expected would = stock shortages and prices holding or being sold above the recommended price. Selling less than expected = discounts and stock dumping from the bargain bin.
That is.... unless you think they planned to produce far more than they could sell with the intention of leaving tons of excess inventory to be sold from bargain bins... I.e., they planned to fail as that is the only way to consider it a success.
When Steve Jobs first released the Ipad, did he start discounting it within months of it going on sale? No... because it was successful and prices held for years. If he would have said "$600.... ok $550..... ok, ok $450 but not 1 cent lower..... alright $350 but that's my limit.... ok how about $300.....", that would have indicated a problem with sales...
The fact that the manufacturer is looking to release other products, to me, sounds more like they have realized what other arcade sellers have known for a while: that most people will not buy anything big.
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At 05:20 of this interview video ( ) the CEO of Tastemakers mentions that at first they figured if they sold 5 or 10K units the product would be a success.
So they were not initially planning for the level of sales it opened with and that is part of why if you remember the initial retail launch was delayed by over a month to ramp up production - as preorders had depleted the initial supply - then they ramped up production and the problems with them once they got into consumer hands made the demand drop some - so they had a larger supply and dropping demand which resulted in the retailers dropping the price ( but again those price drops did not effect Tastemakers since they merely wholesale the product to the retailers ! ) - So as far as tastemakers is concerned it was more of a success than they had initially expected.
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