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Re: Arcade1up Clearance Sale
« Reply #80 on: December 04, 2018, 05:15:27 am »
I'm surprised I haven't seen anyone mod their 1Up cab by mounting the monitor pushed back into the cab away from the bezel like original Donkey Kong, Pacman, Space Invaders and so many others. I think it would help the look and feel of the 1Up machines.
  the issue with that is that there are routed grooves that hold the monitor in place along with plastic screw brackets. I guess if you really wanted to you could fill those grooves with bondo and paint them. Not a bad idea to inset the monitor actually.

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Re: Arcade1up Clearance Sale
« Reply #81 on: December 04, 2018, 07:21:17 am »
I'm surprised I haven't seen anyone mod their 1Up cab by mounting the monitor pushed back into the cab away from the bezel like original Donkey Kong, Pacman, Space Invaders and so many others. I think it would help the look and feel of the 1Up machines.
  the issue with that is that there are routed grooves that hold the monitor in place along with plastic screw brackets. I guess if you really wanted to you could fill those grooves with bondo and paint them. Not a bad idea to inset the monitor actually.


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Re: Arcade1up Clearance Sale
« Reply #82 on: December 04, 2018, 07:27:25 am »
Itís cute you pay so much attention to me. But Iím not accepting applications for any more minions, sorry.
Looks like you found yourself a groupie, he does seem to follow you around like a superfan. We should get him a t-shirt, ďI love yots!Ē. What a fan. :lol
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Re: Arcade1up Clearance Sale
« Reply #83 on: December 04, 2018, 08:29:39 am »
I tell you what, if we do T-shirts, I will send you one wherever you are living around that time. Scouts honor.

Better not hold my breath then, may as well :lol while I wait.
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Re: Arcade1up Clearance Sale
« Reply #84 on: December 04, 2018, 08:47:24 am »
I tell you what, if we do T-shirts, I will send you one wherever you are living around that time. Scouts honor.

Better not hold my breath then, may as well :lol while I wait.

Heh!

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Re: Arcade1up Clearance Sale
« Reply #85 on: December 04, 2018, 10:22:00 am »
Galaga down to $175...

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Re: Arcade1up Clearance Sale
« Reply #86 on: December 04, 2018, 01:27:08 pm »
How are people finding the walmart sale prices?

When I look online it shows them all at full price.

Do you have to specify the right store before searching?

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Re: Arcade1up Clearance Sale
« Reply #87 on: December 04, 2018, 02:15:10 pm »
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Re: Arcade1up Clearance Sale
« Reply #88 on: December 04, 2018, 02:15:30 pm »
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Re: Arcade1up Clearance Sale
« Reply #89 on: December 04, 2018, 02:20:20 pm »
Galaga now down to $150 at a few stores, and $125 at one 40 miles away.  Apparently these are just gonna drop $25 every few days until they sell them all....
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Re: Arcade1up Clearance Sale
« Reply #90 on: December 04, 2018, 04:05:42 pm »
Probably leftover Black Friday stock. These things take up too much shelf space to languish.

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Re: Arcade1up Clearance Sale
« Reply #91 on: December 04, 2018, 07:22:40 pm »
Galaga

https://brickseek.com/walmart-inventory-checker/?sku=595505982

SF2

https://brickseek.com/walmart-inventory-checker/?sku=994342377

Rampage:

https://brickseek.com/walmart-inventory-checker/?sku=114274755

Pacman

https://brickseek.com/walmart-inventory-checker/?sku=792203275

You can also check within the WalMart app... browse the inventory in your store and it'll show the store prices. 

 :cheers:

still $299.
The market in Western NY for these must be high.

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Re: Arcade1up Clearance Sale
« Reply #92 on: December 04, 2018, 10:04:07 pm »
How long are you going to be in Thailand? ZapCon isnít until early next May.

I'll be in Thailand until maybe April, then to Australia for a month or so to be with family and maybe spend some time at the beach (I know a few good body surfing spots). Then, before it gets too cold, back to Thailand where I've got stuff I need to look after including arcade projects and maybe some new swim students to train. 
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Re: Arcade1up Clearance Sale
« Reply #93 on: December 04, 2018, 10:47:13 pm »
How long are you going to be in Thailand? ZapCon isnít until early next May.

I'll be in Thailand until maybe April, then to Australia for a month or so to be with family and maybe spend some time at the beach (I know a few good body surfing spots). Then, before it gets too cold, back to Thailand where I've got stuff I need to look after including arcade projects and maybe some new swim students to train.

Cool, weíll touch base around the time of the show
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Re: Arcade1up Clearance Sale
« Reply #94 on: December 05, 2018, 01:08:50 am »
$200 here... Nope.
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Re: Arcade1up Clearance Sale
« Reply #95 on: December 05, 2018, 04:25:14 pm »
@Zebidee: my comment on your obscenity was jest in reference to recent articles I've read about 'trigger words' and such.
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Re: Arcade1up Clearance Sale
« Reply #96 on: December 05, 2018, 04:31:49 pm »
Galaga and PacMan are $199 at a store 28 miles away while SF is still $299 at all stores in my area, is SF the best selling so far?

Maybe some stores are just selling their overstock versus an all out clearance (?). :dunno

I have to admit that @ $75 each I would consider buying them as Xmas gifts.  :-[
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Re: Arcade1up Clearance Sale
« Reply #97 on: December 05, 2018, 05:01:46 pm »
Not seeing any price drops on SF2, Rampage, or Asteroids. 


Yet.
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Re: Arcade1up Clearance Sale
« Reply #98 on: December 05, 2018, 06:14:16 pm »
Rampage is at some walmart somewhere for $99   
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Re: Arcade1up Clearance Sale
« Reply #99 on: December 05, 2018, 06:20:43 pm »
Rampage is in Marshfield MO 65706  for $199

Streetfighter is $199 at 4308 E Grand Ave
Laramie WY 82070

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Re: Arcade1up Clearance Sale
« Reply #100 on: December 05, 2018, 08:33:36 pm »
The only one near me that is dropping is Asteroids. It's $199.

$200 is at a price point, where I'd snag a couple for projects. Why? Hell if I know what I'm going to do with them. Something though!

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Re: Arcade1up Clearance Sale
« Reply #101 on: December 05, 2018, 10:49:42 pm »
I got Galaga, Pac-man, and Street Fighter for $149 each.  I will keep Galaga and Pac-man and give Street Fighter to my brother for Christmas.   I already modded the Galaga cab with a computer and a new 4-way joystick.  Its running CoinOPS Forgotten Worlds with a custom list of 4-way vertical games.  I am going to do the same to Pac-man and leave it with a 4-way joystick, but change the Galaga to 8-way Vertical games.  Personally, I like the size.  They fit nicely in my computer room and I can swing my gaming chair over when I want to play some arcade games.  They are a perfect height to play sitting in my computer chair.

The Walmart in Bennington, Vermont has all the models for $149.  I skipped Asteroids, I really like the cabinet art, but I have custom built horizontal mame cabinet already so I couldn't justify buying it.  They have about three dozen left in stock of various models.  I live in Troy, NY, so it was a 50 mile round trip to get them.  :)

At $149 each, I think they are a steal.  Especially after spending about $50 modding them to full mame goodness.  LCD HDMI adapter board is $30, audio amp to connect computer to the speaker is $10, and zero delay encoder another $10 or so.  I had an extra zippy joystick in my parts bin, and the computer is an old Athlon machine that I got for free.  Here is a video of my modded Galaga running:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4DUf4Sj7PEU
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Re: Arcade1up Clearance Sale
« Reply #102 on: December 06, 2018, 12:28:41 am »
I got Galaga, Pac-man, and Street Fighter for $149 each.  I will keep Galaga and Pac-man and give Street Fighter to my brother for Christmas.   I already modded the Galaga cab with a computer and a new 4-way joystick.  Its running CoinOPS Forgotten Worlds with a custom list of 4-way vertical games.  I am going to do the same to Pac-man and leave it with a 4-way joystick, but change the Galaga to 8-way Vertical games.  Personally, I like the size.  They fit nicely in my computer room and I can swing my gaming chair over when I want to play some arcade games.  They are a perfect height to play sitting in my computer chair.

The Walmart in Bennington, Vermont has all the models for $149.  I skipped Asteroids, I really like the cabinet art, but I have custom built horizontal mame cabinet already so I couldn't justify buying it.  They have about three dozen left in stock of various models.  I live in Troy, NY, so it was a 50 mile round trip to get them.  :)

At $149 each, I think they are a steal.  Especially after spending about $50 modding them to full mame goodness.  LCD HDMI adapter board is $30, audio amp to connect computer to the speaker is $10, and zero delay encoder another $10 or so.  I had an extra zippy joystick in my parts bin, and the computer is an old Athlon machine that I got for free.  Here is a video of my modded Galaga running:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4DUf4Sj7PEU

You got them at $150 each almost 3 weeks ago (based upon the date of your video)?

Which LCD HDMI adapter board/set did you order (link)?


Do the current units in the wild have the clear control panel overlay in the box?
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Re: Arcade1up Clearance Sale
« Reply #103 on: December 06, 2018, 06:41:40 am »
What can I do with the original game control box.  Should I just toss it on the garbage?  Is it worth anything?
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Re: Arcade1up Clearance Sale
« Reply #104 on: December 06, 2018, 07:31:58 am »
You got them at $150 each almost 3 weeks ago (based upon the date of your video)?

Which LCD HDMI adapter board/set did you order (link)?


Do the current units in the wild have the clear control panel overlay in the box?

I received my preorder Galaga 3 weeks ago and that is the one in the video.  I purchased another Galaga plus the Pacman and Street Fighter yesterday.  I am returning the preorder for a refund (since I paid the full $299 for it).  Walmart allows refunds until early February on the preoders. 

I used this lcd adapter (works great and works with the ac adapter that comes with the arcade1up.  Plug and play): https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B06X9NJ2NR/ref=oh_aui_search_detailpage?ie=UTF8&psc=1

I haven't cracked open the new ones yet, I am assuming they don't have the overlay.  But all you have to do is send an email with a copy of your receipt to arcade1up customer service and they mail you out an overlay no questions asked.

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Re: Arcade1up Clearance Sale
« Reply #105 on: December 06, 2018, 07:35:47 am »
What can I do with the original game control box.  Should I just toss it on the garbage?  Is it worth anything?

Good question.  I will end up with three of them.  I will hold on to them in my parts bin, possibly they will have some use for someone in the future...maybe when these machines become sought after collectibles you will want to restore them to original?  >:D (sarcasm intended)

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Re: Arcade1up Clearance Sale
« Reply #106 on: December 06, 2018, 09:40:00 am »
What can I do with the original game control box.  Should I just toss it on the garbage?  Is it worth anything?

Good question.  I will end up with three of them.  I will hold on to them in my parts bin, possibly they will have some use for someone in the future...maybe when these machines become sought after collectibles you will want to restore them to original?  >:D (sarcasm intended)

Figure they use 5V power and low amperage so might make a decent portable battery powered game with the right monitor setup (LVDS).

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Re: Arcade1up Clearance Sale
« Reply #107 on: December 06, 2018, 10:33:49 am »
I keep hoping someone figures out a way to flash a few more games onto them....

I'm waiting for $99....

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Re: Arcade1up Clearance Sale
« Reply #108 on: December 06, 2018, 01:02:45 pm »
I keep hoping someone figures out a way to flash a few more games onto them....

I'm waiting for $99....

Yes that would be cool and probably will happen eventually, right now everyone is just adding raspberry pi's or computers.  Its also another reason to hold on to the original pcb.  If I could load 20 games or so I would put the original pcb back in there.

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Re: Arcade1up Clearance Sale
« Reply #109 on: December 06, 2018, 07:58:25 pm »
@Mr. Peabody I appreciate that too, never really had any big concern with any of your comments either, enjoy your inputs and lively discussion 8)

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Re: Arcade1up Clearance Sale
« Reply #110 on: December 06, 2018, 08:29:23 pm »
Asteroids is $199 online - must be the slowest selling unit ! Wonder if you order it online for $199 if they'd let you swap it for a different one when you went to pick it up since they are still showing $299 in store ?  :dunno

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Re: Arcade1up Clearance Sale
« Reply #111 on: December 07, 2018, 08:49:26 am »
Asteroids is $199 online - must be the slowest selling unit ! Wonder if you order it online for $199 if they'd let you swap it for a different one when you went to pick it up since they are still showing $299 in store ?  :dunno

I wonder how much these things cost to ship?  I am considering another trip up to Bennington to pick up a few more for some friends.  I could buy one for a forum member and then ship it.  These things are $10 with sales tax, if I could ship for $40 or less they would be $200 or less shipped...

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Re: Arcade1up Clearance Sale
« Reply #112 on: December 08, 2018, 05:38:49 pm »
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Re: Arcade1up Clearance Sale
« Reply #113 on: December 08, 2018, 05:42:05 pm »
The arcade1up stuff (at least the Atari 12-in-1) is bootleg MAME anyway

https://www.reddit.com/r/MAME/comments/a35edo/hacking_the_arcade1up_34scale_mini_arcade_cabinets/

It's MAME 0.139u1 (well a modified build based on that) which is originally from 2010, so falls under the old license, which is strictly no commercial use.

So these things aren't even legal.

If they'd used 0.172 or above they'd be in the clear, as we painstakingly contacted every contributor and relicensed everything for that point onwards.  This was done, in part, so manufacturers like this COULD use MAME as a legal option, but even with that on the table they've gone the lazy / cheap route and produced a product that legally they can't even sell by picking a build before from before the work we put in to change the license.  So yeah, even when we've done the majority of the work for people like this, at our own expense, they still ---steaming pile of meadow muffin--- on us.

If they're not bothering to properly license MAME (terms are clear, team is very easy to contact, basic requirement is simple - 0.172 or above for a commercial product + provide source on request) it does make you wonder if the rest was properly licensed too.
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« Reply #114 on: December 08, 2018, 06:11:25 pm »
Yeah, well, mame wasn't even legal back then either.

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Re: Arcade1up Clearance Sale
« Reply #115 on: December 08, 2018, 06:13:02 pm »
The arcade1up stuff (at least the Atari 12-in-1) is bootleg MAME anyway

https://www.reddit.com/r/MAME/comments/a35edo/hacking_the_arcade1up_34scale_mini_arcade_cabinets/

It's MAME 0.139u1 (well a modified build based on that) which is originally from 2010, so falls under the old license, which is strictly no commercial use.

So these things aren't even legal.

If they'd used 0.172 or above they'd be in the clear, as we painstakingly contacted every contributor and relicensed everything for that point onwards.

Well to be fair to the Arcade1up guys, it doesn't actually say any of that on the MAME website:

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MAME
Copyright (C) 1997-2018  MAMEDev and contributors

This program is free software; you can redistribute it and/or modify
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the Free Software Foundation; either version 2 of the License, or
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This program is distributed in the hope that it will be useful,
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MERCHANTABILITY or FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE.  See the
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You should have received a copy of the GNU General Public License along
with this program; if not, write to the Free Software Foundation, Inc.,
51 Franklin Street, Fifth Floor, Boston, MA 02110-1301 USA.

https://www.mamedev.org/legal.html#license

The above text implies that all versions of MAME from 1997 to 2018 are now released under GPL v2, or (at your option) any later version.

Also, what you're saying doesn't really make a whole lot of sense. Why on earth would the MAME devs allow current versions of MAME to be used for commercial purposes, but restrict the usage of earlier (and supposedly inferior) versions?

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Re: Arcade1up Clearance Sale
« Reply #116 on: December 08, 2018, 06:51:54 pm »
The arcade1up stuff (at least the Atari 12-in-1) is bootleg MAME anyway

https://www.reddit.com/r/MAME/comments/a35edo/hacking_the_arcade1up_34scale_mini_arcade_cabinets/

It's MAME 0.139u1 (well a modified build based on that) which is originally from 2010, so falls under the old license, which is strictly no commercial use.

So these things aren't even legal.

If they'd used 0.172 or above they'd be in the clear, as we painstakingly contacted every contributor and relicensed everything for that point onwards.

Well to be fair to the Arcade1up guys, it doesn't actually say any of that on the MAME website:

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MAME
Copyright (C) 1997-2018  MAMEDev and contributors

This program is free software; you can redistribute it and/or modify
it under the terms of the GNU General Public License as published by
the Free Software Foundation; either version 2 of the License, or
(at your option) any later version.

This program is distributed in the hope that it will be useful,
but WITHOUT ANY WARRANTY; without even the implied warranty of
MERCHANTABILITY or FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE.  See the
GNU General Public License for more details.

You should have received a copy of the GNU General Public License along
with this program; if not, write to the Free Software Foundation, Inc.,
51 Franklin Street, Fifth Floor, Boston, MA 02110-1301 USA.

https://www.mamedev.org/legal.html#license

The above text implies that all versions of MAME from 1997 to 2018 are now released under GPL v2, or (at your option) any later version.

Also, what you're saying doesn't really make a whole lot of sense. Why on earth would the MAME devs allow current versions of MAME to be used for commercial purposes, but restrict the usage of earlier (and supposedly inferior) versions?

No, it doesn't imply that all versions are covered by that license, that's the CURRENT license, for CURRENT versions, it can't from a legal perspective (and doesn't) override the individual license that is included with each distribution.  The 1997-2018 is just how long the project has existed.

As for why, it's simply a legal thing, we went through the process of getting permission from everybody who had code in 0.172 and requested permission to change that license to GPL / BSD (their choice) in future versions.  It can't retroactively be changed without going through that process for every single version, so wasn't.  As a result, 0.172 and above have a nice clean usable license with very few restrictions, versions below that do not and are still bound by things like the no commercial use clause.

The process of relicensing also involved dropping any code from people who didn't want their code relicensed, or couldn't be contacted (or in some cases, were deceased, and permission couldn't be obtained from the estate) and rewriting it (which took a year in some cases)  Any code that couldn't be traced back had to go because it was impossible to relicense it.

It's a well acknowledged process that a number of large projects have had to go through in their lifespan.  We can't legally offer the older versions under GPL / BSD because we don't have permission to, we can offer versions 0.172 and above under the GPL, because we do.

The cleanup and standardization of the license was done for good reason, to make situations like this easier to handle going forward, and was a significant undertaking that took the best part of a year to track everybody down etc.  It is up to the companies making use of MAME to check that the versions they're using are based off a version that has a compatible license, and that nobody is misrepresenting that license in any way if they didn't get it from an official source etc.  That's what legal / licensing departments are for.  In this case they either haven't done their homework, or are intentionally violating the license and hoped they wouldn't be found out.

From the MAME side, the whole relicensing thing was done with proper legal advisors etc. because we wanted to make sure, going forward, MAME was a piece of software people could actually make use of.

I've read all sorts of conspiracy theories about how we've only changed the license on the newer versions because we want to force people to use them etc. but the real reason is simple, that's how the law works and there's nothing we can do about that.

Not sure what doesn't make sense to you either, MAME isn't something we're selling, it's our contribution to society, makes much more sense if they can use the versions with fewer bugs than base products around old versions that are never going to be fixed.


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Re: Arcade1up Clearance Sale
« Reply #117 on: December 08, 2018, 08:00:46 pm »
No, it doesn't imply that all versions are covered by that license, that's the CURRENT license, for CURRENT versions, it can't from a legal perspective (and doesn't) override the individual license that is included with each distribution.  The 1997-2018 is just how long the project has existed.

I disagree. The webpage I linked to doesn't say that the license only applies to the current* version of MAME. So, by implication, it applies to all versions of MAME.

If what you're saying is correct, then the licensing information on the official MAME website is, at best, very misleading. However, that's hardly the fault of Arcade1up.

* which would still be ambiguous anyway, as the 'current' version is changing all the time.
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Re: Arcade1up Clearance Sale
« Reply #118 on: December 08, 2018, 08:12:22 pm »
No, it doesn't imply that all versions are covered by that license, that's the CURRENT license, for CURRENT versions, it can't from a legal perspective (and doesn't) override the individual license that is included with each distribution.  The 1997-2018 is just how long the project has existed.

I disagree. The webpage I linked to doesn't say that the license only applies to the current* version of MAME. So, by implication, it applies to all versions of MAME.

If what you're saying is correct, then the licensing information on the official MAME website is, at best, very misleading. However, that's hardly the fault of Arcade1up.

* which would still be ambiguous anyway, as the 'current' version is changing all the time.

You can disagree, but that isn't how the law works.

Always check the license that's provided with the software.  At worst you could say the text is 'incorrect' but really, it's 100% industry standard to list details for whatever the current offering is.  While these things do change over time. the expectation is always that you'll be using the current version, so the information provided primarily relates to that as it's most relevant in 99% of cases.  The main pages on pretty much every website you'll find have details that relate to the current versions only. 

Older versions are offered for archival purposes.  You're still bound by the licenses included with whatever you download.  This is the type of thing anybody releasing a product should be aware of, and should have a legal team ratify.


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Re: Arcade1up Clearance Sale
« Reply #119 on: December 08, 2018, 09:51:07 pm »

You can disagree, but that isn't how the law works.

So sue them or STFU about it.
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