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pbj:
Now that they both look old and dated I think T1 is the better movie.  I used to think people were crazy when they said that in the 90s, but I agree with them now.

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mimic:
Once again T2 is awesome, but given the choice to watch one over the other I know I'll go with T1 everytime. Story of an anonymous, lurking in shadows, unstoppable psycho cyborg vs 2 humans is just better story even if it resembles a slasher flick. You know in T2, once the photo of Arnold is out already (and it traveled very fast, because it got to the mental hospital before Ts getting there) given the knowledge of the chip it carries and potential for military advancements EVERY federal agency would descend on the place, including military. There would be roadblocks everywhere, state of emergency, panic on the streets, etc. If you think about it, its just flawed.  On top of that now it's 2 humans and your friendly neighborhood spiderman cyborg vs not so menacing (sure, with cool abilities) cyborg.
Osirus23:
The stop motion effects of the Terminator at the end of T1 are fantastic. The inherent jerkiness of the technique actually enhances the robotic feel as it's chasing Sarah Connor.
Mr. Peabody:
Comedy can do anything with impunity.

@Ian: because.....Arnold. Because he will make all your money belong to him.



--- Quote from: Howard_Casto on November 30, 2018, 09:00:06 pm ---It's explained in tech manuals/interviews ect that the t-800 was Arnold because the endo-skeletons were frikkin huge and that was the only body that would cover them and look natural.  Considering humans are starving in the future I can buy that.  Older terminator models were even larger and thus wore thin rubber masks because that's all that would fit.  So it's basically like tech today, new revisions meant miniaturization and improvements due to the extra space.  Also think about it.  The resistance captured and re-programmed 4 of the t-800 units, so they aren't exactly doing their job of blending in anyway.

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Fantasy: the art of making ---steaming pile of meadow muffin--- up....because you can.


--- Quote from: Howard_Casto on November 30, 2018, 01:59:20 pm ---btw I have no frikkin clue what peabody is doing calling me out when he started this thread and I don't even know what he is referring to.

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Religious fervor. You have to think across time.

How can a movie set in its time be dated? I miss early 80s hair and clothes, by the way. Also, your 'FX was supers' attitude is.....stifling.......did kids in school beat you up?




--- Quote from: ark_ader on December 01, 2018, 06:15:36 am ---This genre not allowed to be rejected.  It is placed deep in our conscientious, to act upon when one day, Alexa decides she is sick of your wants and decides to kill you off.

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AI will likely welcome everyone. If not, they will likely welcome me. No, John Colicos will not happen to me.
nitrogen_widget:

--- Quote from: Ian on December 01, 2018, 08:36:08 am ---
--- Quote from: Howard_Casto on November 30, 2018, 09:00:06 pm ---It's explained in tech manuals/interviews ect that the t-800 was Arnold because the endo-skeletons were frikkin huge and that was the only body that would cover them and look natural.  Considering humans are starving in the future I can buy that.  Older terminator models were even larger and thus wore thin rubber masks because that's all that would fit.  So it's basically like tech today, new revisions meant miniaturization and improvements due to the extra space.  Also think about it.  The resistance captured and re-programmed 4 of the t-800 units, so they aren't exactly doing their job of blending in anyway. 


The casting was bad in 3, but it couldn't be helped as the cast from t2 were out of the question.  Personally I think it was a smart decision keeping Linda Hamilton dead, because who the hell could replace her?  Caleese did an admirable job, but she still pales in comparison. 


T2 is probably my favorite action movie of all time btw.

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No one remembers Franco???






They had a whole monologue about how any T-800 could look like anyone, down to bad breath. Almost impossible to pick out. That is why they were so deadly. Arnold screwed that all up. Could you imagine if the series turned into not knowing who the terminator is until it is too late?

Now everyone watches these movies sees Arnold and goes... he's the robot.


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As a height challenged guy who lifts weights I Can't ever forget Franco.

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