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opt2not:
Mr.Peabody is on track. The fact that you’re calling out H_C justifies everything all members here have dealt with this guy for a long time. A+ for intuition.  :lol
Zebidee:

--- Quote from: Howard_Casto on December 02, 2018, 07:36:48 am ---It's not just the rubber Arnie head scenes guys.   Nearly every visual in T1 is extremely dated, especially the clothes the actors are wearing and Linda's state fair hair.
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Doooooode, where WERE YOU in the mid-1980's?

Let me tell you where I was. I was working in the latest techno-clubs, which were being frequented by many women that looked a lot like Linda Hamilton in T1, ESPECIALLY the perm-hair and the shoulder pads.

You might not like it, certainly I had a lot of laughs back in the day. But that is what women were wearing in that period, and the hairstyles they sported. I like it because it portrays Sarah Connor as a young innocent party-girl with a boring restaurant job, who ends up being like the Madonna of the future. Yes, her transformation for T-II is amazing, and yet perfectly within character.


--- Quote ---In films, visuals absolutely do count because, the only thing you are doing is watching it... in games it doesn't matter because you are playing them.  I thought that would be extremely obvious to everyone. Also understand that it's less of a dated vfx thing, and more of a bad vfx thing.  There are makeup effects from the 30's and 40's that still hold up, because they were done well.  These weren't.
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If you're going to compare, do it against really old sci-fi flicks rather than dramas like Casablanca.


--- Quote ---It's not just the visuals either, it's the plot that is a bit dated as well.  The first film is actually framed and paced more like a slasher film than scifi...a bad slasher film.  There's far more suspense and a sense of danger in T2.  The entire movie is a chase scene because the villain is literally unstoppable.  If they hadn't stumbled upon that steel mill they would have been dead meat.
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Did you not notice that Arnie-bot chose the right freeway exit to get to the steel mill? Bit of planning there, not just random.

Plot was basically the same, they just added a bad-guy twist and some more character development/depth.


--- Quote ---I have respect for the first film for creating the franchise, but that's about it.  It's kind of like Evil Dead... that's a good flick but why the hell would you bother to watch it instead of just skipping to Evil Dead 2?

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I suggest that you go and see "Night of the Living Dead" then compare it with modern zombie flicks. What I like about the original (but they lost in re-makes) is that the original "hero" was a black dude. He survived the night. But when the white dude cops turned up to rescue people, they shot him anyway.


--- Quote ---Also for the record, don't lump Alien in with T1.  Alien is a great film and it holds up well, mostly because they had more than 14 dollars to do the vfx.

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T_I, T-II and Aliens were James Cameron. But Cameron didn't do the original Alien (that was Ridley Scott).
opt2not:
Anyone who doesn’t see the parallels between T1/2 and Alien/Aliens is either half-blind, or a moron. Probably both.  ::)
Osirus23:
It's like poetry. They rhyme.
Howard_Casto:

--- Quote from: opt2not on December 03, 2018, 05:55:41 pm ---Anyone who doesn’t see the parallels between T1/2 and Alien/Aliens is either half-blind, or a moron. Probably both.  ::)

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Thanks for calling me a moron you piece of garbage.  See?  It's not nice to call people names.  I thought you were going to try harder.... obviously that was a lie. 
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