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| Zebra:
--- Quote from: Titchgamer on February 14, 2019, 12:31:28 pm --- --- Quote from: Zebra on February 14, 2019, 11:39:20 am ---In my experience, the Wii remote is the worst of all the home IR "guns". Then the Aimtrak, then the PS Move and the Guncon 3 is the best home IR gun I have tried. I only rate the Move above the Aimtrak because it is not sensative to tilt issues but it still sucks. The Guncon 3 is the only IR gun I own that is accurate enough to aim line of sight (just). I haven't tried a Topgun 3 but my understand is that they are great.... for around 3 minutes before they break. Plus... they are let down by poor driver support... or something. --- End quote --- Not tried a guncon 3. But the topguns are terrible! But as for the move being better than the aim traks, Really!? --- End quote --- Yes. I have all of them. It's close as both suck for the same reason but the move has a slight advantage as the crosshairs don't jump when you tilt the gun. The Guncon 3 is a noticeable step up over all the others. You can play TC4 with no visible crosshairs on-screen (like the arcade) as it is (just) accurate enough for line of sight. For games like Razing Storm where the crosshairs are on-screen, the GC3 has noticeably less lag. It's a mute point currently though as there are only 3 games that can use a GC3. Someone started writing PC drivers to use it with mame a while ago. I'd like someone to finish them at some point if nobody is ever going to release a decent PC gun. For now, the GC2 with a crt is the only acceptible way to play light gun games on a PC. I have my GC2 converted recoil gun for light guns games and a pair of fixed directional guns for the rest. |
| Titchgamer:
--- Quote from: Zebra on February 15, 2019, 10:01:55 pm --- --- Quote from: Titchgamer on February 14, 2019, 12:31:28 pm --- --- Quote from: Zebra on February 14, 2019, 11:39:20 am ---In my experience, the Wii remote is the worst of all the home IR "guns". Then the Aimtrak, then the PS Move and the Guncon 3 is the best home IR gun I have tried. I only rate the Move above the Aimtrak because it is not sensative to tilt issues but it still sucks. The Guncon 3 is the only IR gun I own that is accurate enough to aim line of sight (just). I haven't tried a Topgun 3 but my understand is that they are great.... for around 3 minutes before they break. Plus... they are let down by poor driver support... or something. --- End quote --- Not tried a guncon 3. But the topguns are terrible! But as for the move being better than the aim traks, Really!? --- End quote --- Yes. I have all of them. It's close as both suck for the same reason but the move has a slight advantage as the crosshairs don't jump when you tilt the gun. The Guncon 3 is a noticeable step up over all the others. You can play TC4 with no visible crosshairs on-screen (like the arcade) as it is (just) accurate enough for line of sight. For games like Razing Storm where the crosshairs are on-screen, the GC3 has noticeably less lag. It's a mute point currently though as there are only 3 games that can use a GC3. Someone started writing PC drivers to use it with mame a while ago. I'd like someone to finish them at some point if nobody is ever going to release a decent PC gun. For now, the GC2 with a crt is the only acceptible way to play light gun games on a PC. I have my GC2 converted recoil gun for light guns games and a pair of fixed directional guns for the rest. --- End quote --- Simple solution is not to tilt the gun gangsta! :p I only ever play with the gun held normally so never experienced this jumping you describe for the AT but as the move is basically just a colour tracker I am surprised to hear it jumps if its rotated?? |
| Zebra:
It is virtually impossible to hold the gun completely straight when playing. There is no solution except put the Aimtrak in the trash. The tilt issue is far from the main problem with them. They are not accurate. They are not well made. They feel cheap and are no fun to use. They have too few sensors so all the calibration in the world will not help. The lag is terrible. For directional gun games with a crosshairs on screen, you are better off with a real arcade gun plus an Apac. For light gun games, a Guncon 2 is $15 on eBay and is unrivaled for accuracy for home light guns. |
| Titchgamer:
--- Quote from: Zebra on February 16, 2019, 12:25:04 am ---It is virtually impossible to hold the gun completely straight when playing. There is no solution except put the Aimtrak in the trash. The tilt issue is far from the main problem with them. They are not accurate. They are not well made. They feel cheap and are no fun to use. They have too few sensors so all the calibration in the world will not help. The lag is terrible. For directional gun games with a crosshairs on screen, you are better off with a real arcade gun plus an Apac. For light gun games, a Guncon 2 is $15 on eBay and is unrivaled for accuracy for home light guns. --- End quote --- Cant say I have those issues. The plastic they are made from is not the best though I agree there. Mine hold their calibration fine and suffer no noticeable lag except in games which lag themselves but thats not the guns fault. The only time I ever have any real problems is with heavy sunlight but thats a easy fix. They are the best LCD guns I have used with the exception of the Sinden one but obv thats not released yet and was still a prototype when I used it last. As for the GC2 its probably the finest lightgun ever made for home use and I still have 2 for my PS2 but of course I need the CRT to.... |
| BadMouth:
--- Quote from: SammyWI on February 14, 2019, 08:01:10 pm ---That's pretty much all I'm looking for. I really don't get the desire to get super close to the screen but different strokes and all, I guess. I really hope it will work on a projector screen at a reasonable distance (8 to 10 feet from a 7 foot screen or so). So bring on the Kickstarter! --- End quote --- Standing 8-10ft from a 7ft screen would pretty much be the same as standing 2.5-3ft from a 24"(4:3 ratio) screen. This is about the range people are asking for IMO. My cab has 5ft of open space in front of it. By the time extend my arm, there is only 2-2.5ft left between the gun and the screen. The gameplay video I posed above was on my old setup. The gun is about 36" away from a 32" CRT TV. I could have stood as far back as I wanted, but that is what felt right based on arcade experience. |
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