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| ark_ader:
--- Quote from: Zebra on February 16, 2019, 12:25:04 am ---It is virtually impossible to hold the gun completely straight when playing. There is no solution except put the Aimtrak in the trash. The tilt issue is far from the main problem with them. They are not accurate. They are not well made. They feel cheap and are no fun to use. They have too few sensors so all the calibration in the world will not help. The lag is terrible. For directional gun games with a crosshairs on screen, you are better off with a real arcade gun plus an Apac. For light gun games, a Guncon 2 is $15 on eBay and is unrivaled for accuracy for home light guns. --- End quote --- Other than the software drivers issue, my LCD Topguns work pretty well in nearly all applications, including my old modded Xbox, and the Cronus for PS3, (et al.) and everything else. I have recoil (great for 2 minutes) and the LED tracking is superb. The emitters are a bit untidy but there are other solutions. Nothing like playing House of the Dead on a 100" projector wall, or on the side of a garage. I can also take them out with me to the liquor store if I wanted to be killed by the police. Yeah they look that real. ;D Far superior to the Aimtrak in every way. |
| SammyWI:
--- Quote from: BadMouth on February 16, 2019, 07:27:14 am --- --- Quote from: SammyWI on February 14, 2019, 08:01:10 pm ---That's pretty much all I'm looking for. I really don't get the desire to get super close to the screen but different strokes and all, I guess. I really hope it will work on a projector screen at a reasonable distance (8 to 10 feet from a 7 foot screen or so). So bring on the Kickstarter! --- End quote --- Standing 8-10ft from a 7ft screen would pretty much be the same as standing 2.5-3ft from a 24"(4:3 ratio) screen. This is about the range people are asking for IMO. My cab has 5ft of open space in front of it. By the time extend my arm, there is only 2-2.5ft left between the gun and the screen. The gameplay video I posed above was on my old setup. The gun is about 36" away from a 32" CRT TV. I could have stood as far back as I wanted, but that is what felt right based on arcade experience. --- End quote --- I may have been reading a bit too much into some of the back and forth here along with some of the talk about a wide angle lens. At the size to distance ratio I posted a standard web cam has no problem seeing the entire screen (and could be a bit closer). Although that's pointed at center of screen, so when pointed at the screen edge it may need a wider angle lens or software that can work with a partial screen view. |
| Zebra:
--- Quote from: ark_ader on February 16, 2019, 07:31:39 am --- --- Quote from: Zebra on February 16, 2019, 12:25:04 am ---It is virtually impossible to hold the gun completely straight when playing. There is no solution except put the Aimtrak in the trash. The tilt issue is far from the main problem with them. They are not accurate. They are not well made. They feel cheap and are no fun to use. They have too few sensors so all the calibration in the world will not help. The lag is terrible. For directional gun games with a crosshairs on screen, you are better off with a real arcade gun plus an Apac. For light gun games, a Guncon 2 is $15 on eBay and is unrivaled for accuracy for home light guns. --- End quote --- Other than the software drivers issue, my LCD Topguns work pretty well in nearly all applications, including my old modded Xbox, and the Cronus for PS3, (et al.) and everything else. I have recoil (great for 2 minutes) and the LED tracking is superb. The emitters are a bit untidy but there are other solutions. Nothing like playing House of the Dead on a 100" projector wall, or on the side of a garage. I can also take them out with me to the liquor store if I wanted to be killed by the police. Yeah they look that real. ;D Far superior to the Aimtrak in every way. --- End quote --- Thanks for the Topgun info. I wondered about them because they were designed to be used for games like Time Crisis 2 and 3 with no crosshairs on screen. They have four sensors which is more than any home IR gun so they seem like they had potential. Still not the 10 you get on arcade IR guns but better an Aimtrak or Wii remote. From reading the very mixed reviews, it seems like they are good if you get a working one but at least 50% of the reviews said they broke quickly (within a week) or never worked at all. So... it's a bit of a gamble. Sounds like you got a good one. My bet is that a large portion of the technical issues were related to those poor drivers and associated user error. Apparently they required windows to be in test mode like CRT EMU drivers. That alone is enough to confuse 99% of the world... |
| Titchgamer:
I still have a topgun 2 in the loft and although its not broken it would never hold calibration. Sure as hell couldn’t use it without crosshairs anyway! I tried flogging it a while back but nobody wanted it funnily enough lol |
| Zebra:
--- Quote from: Titchgamer on February 16, 2019, 10:49:51 am ---I still have a topgun 2 in the loft and although its not broken it would never hold calibration. Sure as hell couldn’t use it without crosshairs anyway! I tried flogging it a while back but nobody wanted it funnily enough lol --- End quote --- Um.... that sounds broken to me... |
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