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Author Topic: My first real Cab pick up, Nintendo DK restore.  (Read 1959 times)

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Re: My first real Cab pick up. Is it what I think it is?
« Reply #40 on: August 23, 2018, 10:14:38 pm »
I should give DK3 another chance. I just found it weird that part of the gameplay is shooting DK up the butt. :lol



Make it a Fix it Felix

Not that anyone cares but DKJr, DK-Pauline, DK3

DK3 isnt bad if you treat it like a shmup, I just think Jr is the most fun

From here?

Howard is your rapper still the way to play Fix it Felix?
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Re: My first real Cab pick up. Is it what I think it is?
« Reply #41 on: August 23, 2018, 11:02:38 pm »
Yeah as far as I know I'm the only one stupid enough to work on that.   Someone also made a genesis port of the game, but it has a few gameplay differences and obviously it's horizontal. 

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Re: My first real Cab pick up. Is it what I think it is?
« Reply #42 on: August 25, 2018, 10:24:58 pm »
Picked it up and brought it to my dad's place. Could use some help getting it working in it's current configuration.

The monitor turns on but is white no sound at all.


There was no paint under the taped on side art posters.


The front art was in bad shape so didn't try to save.


Here is under they joy stick.


JAMA is disconnected in this photo because I tried my 60-in-1 to see if I would get a image.


Right before I lest to go home the citric striper came. I only had a dab on about a minute as I was in a rush but it did a good job only removing the black in my quick test.
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Re: My first real Cab pick up. Is it what I think it is?
« Reply #43 on: August 25, 2018, 11:18:03 pm »
Those are pretty good signs of life to work with. Due to the inverted video that the Sanyo monitors use, white is what it shows when there is no signal. That little board above the game board is an inverter so the monitor can use normal signals.

I'm guessing you got nothing from the 60-in-1 as well. I'd check power supply next.

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Re: My first real Cab pick up. Is it what I think it is?
« Reply #44 on: August 25, 2018, 11:38:04 pm »
Heh.  I love how the jerk that converted it couldn't even be bothered to paint the whole thing and left a big spot where the side art goes.  I know it's a business, but sometimes operators are the worst. 


The good news is they didn't do a good job of painting it, so the citristrip is probably going to work really well like it did on your test spot. 


Btw, those crimp connectors on the invertor board look a bit janky, that could be part of your problem right there. 

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Re: My first real Cab pick up. Is it what I think it is?
« Reply #45 on: August 25, 2018, 11:46:54 pm »

I'm guessing you got nothing from the 60-in-1 as well. I'd check power supply next.

Sweet, I'll bring my meter next time I'm out.

Howard, I'll put that on the list of thing to test.

Been looking for color codes for the touching up I'll need to do. Here are the two I found. Any helpful info welcome.

Code 1

Code 2

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Re: My first real Cab pick up. Is it what I think it is?
« Reply #46 on: August 26, 2018, 05:07:38 pm »
Its nice of the person who converted it to black saved you some CitriStrip by skipping that 1sft of space on each side :lol

In all seriousness I'm happy the CitriStrip is working. Hows the sides look damage (dings & dents) wise?

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Re: My first real Cab pick up. Is it what I think it is?
« Reply #47 on: August 26, 2018, 08:00:29 pm »

I'm guessing you got nothing from the 60-in-1 as well. I'd check power supply next.

Been looking for color codes for the touching up I'll need to do. Here are the two I found. Any helpful info welcome.

Code 1

Code 2

If you aren't going to repaint the entire thing it'd probably make sense to take in a piece of the cab (like the back door) and have it color matched.  It could have faded or the citristrip could effect the color.  I made the mistake when repainting my gorf to color match to a piece of the decal,  but it had faded and thus they don't exactly match. 

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Re: My first real Cab pick up. Is it what I think it is?
« Reply #48 on: August 26, 2018, 11:00:28 pm »
Its nice of the person who converted it to black saved you some CitriStrip by skipping that 1sft of space on each side :lol

In all seriousness I'm happy the CitriStrip is working. Hows the sides look damage (dings & dents) wise?

 It looks pretty good over all, some edge damage here and there. I'm glad you mad the suggestion.

Howard, that's a good point. I'll see what I can do.

I'm super torn. I want to do the DK but also tempted to make it a fixit Felix. That said, I already got a DK bezel on ebay for $42 shipped. Ether way this will not be a factor restore. I would be happy if it came out looking like a well keep 37 year old cab.

For now my priorities are to get ever thing working in the current config and to strip it completely to the original blue. 

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Re: My first real Cab pick up. Is it what I think it is?
« Reply #49 on: August 26, 2018, 11:17:15 pm »
Its nice of the person who converted it to black saved you some CitriStrip by skipping that 1sft of space on each side :lol

In all seriousness I'm happy the CitriStrip is working. Hows the sides look damage (dings & dents) wise?

 It looks pretty good over all, some edge damage here and there. I'm glad you mad the suggestion.

Howard, that's a good point. I'll see what I can do.

I'm super torn. I want to do the DK but also tempted to make it a fixit Felix. That said, I already got a DK bezel on ebay for $42 shipped. Ether way this will not be a factor restore. I would be happy if it came out looking like a well keep 37 year old cab.

For now my priorities are to get ever thing working in the current config and to strip it completely to the original blue.

Just stick with the DK.
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Re: My first real Cab pick up. Is it what I think it is?
« Reply #50 on: August 26, 2018, 11:51:07 pm »
As cute as fix it felix is, I tend to agree.  The dk artwork is a classic.  Then again I always preferred the red radar scope conversions, so YMMV. 

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Re: My first real Cab pick up. Is it what I think it is?
« Reply #51 on: August 27, 2018, 07:43:12 am »
I'm super torn. I want to do the DK but also tempted to make it a fixit Felix.

I'm saying DK but I have already built a FFJR.  My thinking is do one and if you want to do another from scratch you have the template.

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Re: My first real Cab pick up. Is it what I think it is?
« Reply #52 on: August 27, 2018, 07:57:50 am »
Your cab has a metal CP, mine was wood, so the following might not apply..

Under the CP attached to each side (inside cab) is a scrap of wood the locks are mounted to. The few cabs I have seen they were cut from scrap material the sides were made of so blue/orange. They would be the least faded to use for color match, but might be difficult to remove & take to the paint shop. I think they are just pin nailed in though.

As for the FIFJr vs DK, I started building a FIFJr bc it gives me a second button without looking out of place on the CP. Visually though, I'd rather build it out as a DK or even back to Popeye and lose a button.


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Re: My first real Cab pick up. Is it what I think it is?
« Reply #53 on: August 27, 2018, 06:16:09 pm »
Your cab has a metal CP, mine was wood, so the following might not apply..

As for the FIFJr vs DK, I started building a FIFJr bc it gives me a second button without looking out of place on the CP. Visually though, I'd rather build it out as a DK or even back to Popeye and lose a button.

The metal CP would have been an addition when they did the conversion. You'll need to replace it with wood and plexi if you want it to look right as DK. As for a second button, there's modified DK overlay artwork for multicades that have multiple buttons.
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Re: My first real Cab pick up. Is it what I think it is?
« Reply #54 on: August 27, 2018, 09:48:32 pm »
Here is under they joy stick.


Looking at the old holes in this pic, it looks to be a VS Unisystem or PlayChoice CP, maybe?
Is there a tag on the back above the rear door?

edit: found pic I'm leaning towards the PlayChoice
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« Reply #55 on: August 27, 2018, 11:35:31 pm »
Yes, the holes looks like it was a Donkey Kong converted to a single screen Playchoice.

However what it was between then and now doesn't mean anything, this was a Donkey Kong.
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Re: My first real Cab pick up. Is it what I think it is?
« Reply #56 on: August 28, 2018, 10:02:04 am »
I tried striping the pain on one side. I was at my Dadís to help him with something so only did a once over to see what Iíd get. Here the original paint was in good shape all seemed to go well. How every thatís are spots where the blue was banged. It looks like some touching ups is the minimum that will have to be done.

Annoyingly I forgot my multimeter so could not test the power supply.

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Re: My first real Cab pick up. Is it what I think it is?
« Reply #57 on: September 01, 2018, 11:15:13 am »
I picked up a nice reproduction bezel.


Can a mod Iíve this thread to project announcements? I would like to keep this in one thread.
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Re: My first real Cab pick up, Nintendo DK restore.
« Reply #58 on: September 01, 2018, 12:56:44 pm »
Thanks Scott  :cheers:

The metal CP would have been an addition when they did the conversion. You'll need to replace it with wood and plexi if you want it to look right as DK. As for a second button, there's modified DK overlay artwork for multicades that have multiple buttons.

Is this what you had in mind?

I think I'll probably go with a original stile CP. Then again this will be running MAME Are there any two player 4 way Vertical games I'm not thinking of I might want it to play?
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« Reply #59 on: September 02, 2018, 10:59:20 am »
Originally I was thinking an original DK layout with an extra button added next to jump. Not finding an example of one now, but I've seen vector art online that could be printed and put under plexi. If you can't find one PM me and I'd be happy to edit one together.

And now you've reached the big rabbit hole everyone here lingers over. What controls to add and what games do you value? How accurate do you want it to be to the original?

With your 60-in-1 a 4-way and 2 buttons will let you play probably 40. If you care about shooters go with a 8-way and you'll be able to play 85%. Or add a trackball and you can play everything but Commando. Those boards let you disable games from the menu you don't have controls for.

The average Joe who walks up to a machine doesn't like too many options. Give them too many j to pick from and they'll get frustrated and walk away. Or they'll just play Pac-Man.

If you're doing a full MAME setup then sky's the limit. MAME can scale and center the image, so you could even play horizontal games on it.

When I built my MAME cab 15+ years ago I wanted versatility. I went with the fairly standard horizontal computer monitor, 2-player panel with 8-way sticks and 7 buttons per side. It's a lot to squeeze onto a Frogger control panel. I've played LOTS of Donkey Kong with 8-ways and it's fine. If you hit a diagonal Mario will stop, but it's rare with the gameplay that you press diagonals outside of maybe ladder transitions.

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« Reply #60 on: September 02, 2018, 11:54:22 am »
All good points. I try to avoid fetcher creep. My goal it to have this look like a original DK and would like to keep it to just 4 way vertical games with 20ish games.

This will be going live in the game room of my dadís Elks lodge, they are trying to attract new younger members and duds in there 50ís would qualify as younger. Iím hoping to add one or two dedicated cabs. I keeping an eye out for a cheep 90ís cab as I want a fighter.

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« Reply #61 on: September 02, 2018, 01:24:10 pm »
All good points. I try to avoid fetcher creep. My goal it to have this look like a original DK and would like to keep it to just 4 way vertical games with 20ish games.

This will be going live in the game room of my dadís Elks lodge, they are trying to attract new younger members and duds in there 50ís would qualify as younger. Iím hoping to add one or two dedicated cabs. I keeping an eye out for a cheep 90ís cab as I want a fighter.

I would put all the vertical 4-way games in the all killer, no filler list on it. I would also use the GGG Pac-Pro leaf joystick and leaf buttons as a lot of those games will play best with those controls. Nintendo joysticks and buttons are best for DK, but would be frustrating for almost everything else.


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Re: My first real Cab pick up, Nintendo DK restore.
« Reply #62 on: September 02, 2018, 03:00:46 pm »
All good points. I try to avoid fetcher creep. My goal it to have this look like a original DK and would like to keep it to just 4 way vertical games with 20ish games.

This will be going live in the game room of my dadís Elks lodge, they are trying to attract new younger members and duds in there 50ís would qualify as younger. Iím hoping to add one or two dedicated cabs. I keeping an eye out for a cheep 90ís cab as I want a fighter.

I would put all the vertical 4-way games in the all killer, no filler list on it. I would also use the GGG Pac-Pro leaf joystick and leaf buttons as a lot of those games will play best with those controls. Nintendo joysticks and buttons are best for DK, but would be frustrating for almost everything else.

This largely reflects my thinking. 

  
 

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