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Arcade 1up - Pinball, Star Wars with haptic Feedback
« on: October 09, 2020, 01:43:34 pm »

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Re: Arcade 1up - Pinball, Star Wars with haptic Feedback
« Reply #1 on: October 09, 2020, 04:19:52 pm »
Not directed at Arcade1up, but in virtual pinball all together


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Re: Arcade 1up - Pinball, Star Wars with haptic Feedback
« Reply #2 on: October 09, 2020, 07:50:57 pm »
Not directed at Arcade1up, but in virtual pinball all together



only rich people can afford the 10k-15k real machines.

even the home versions are 5k-10k.

so spending $500-$1000 is the easiest and best way to get these pinballs
machines in their arcade.

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Re: Arcade 1up - Pinball, Star Wars with haptic Feedback
« Reply #3 on: October 10, 2020, 10:55:02 am »
I wonder if those pinball owners know they are rich?

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Re: Arcade 1up - Pinball, Star Wars with haptic Feedback
« Reply #4 on: October 10, 2020, 12:12:01 pm »
The secret to pinball ownership is realizing that real pins don't lose their value very quickly, so there is a lot of trading and reselling among collectors, usually for full or nearly full value. You might have 3k-12K invested in a table, but you know that you should be able to get most of that money back out of the table, assuming that you take good care of it.

For virtual, I do like VpinballX, but I don't like Zen or the other PC based virtual tables. They just don't make fun tables or have good physics. Pinball Arcade is okay. Physics aren't the best, not as good as Visual Pinball, but better than Zen or FX tables, and Pinball Arcade at least has proven table designs with decent instructions/tutorials included.

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Re: Arcade 1up - Pinball, Star Wars with haptic Feedback
« Reply #5 on: October 10, 2020, 03:04:56 pm »
Yeah the real stinker on these new tables is the fact that they are most likely going to run not only zen/fx tables that aren't recreations of actual machines, but they'll be the cruddy android versions to save money.  So expect low resolution, low fidelity graphics, ect. 

Virtual pinball can be done correctly, but it requires a fairly powerful pc, monitors that are at least 1080p with good viewing angles and good physics recreations.  These are batting 0 for 3 most likely. 

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Re: Arcade 1up - Pinball, Star Wars with haptic Feedback
« Reply #6 on: October 11, 2020, 01:16:50 pm »
jersey jacks pinball:

guns n roses, 3 versions (some sold out)

http://store.jerseyjackpinball.com/Games/Guns-N-Roses/



Guns N' Roses™ Standard Edition

STANDARD EDITION FEATURES:

Monsterized Roadsters Cabinet Art Package
Black Textured Powder Coat
Blood Red Plastic Set
Hand-Drawn Monsterized Band SE Backglass
200+ Individually Controlled RGB LEDs
Full Band On Stage Illuminable Toy
3 Flippers
Bright White LED Controllable Hotrail Lighting
Laser-etched Glowing Fender Bass Ramp Decoration


Guns N' Roses™ Standard Edition
$6,750.00

    
Guns N' Roses™ Limited Edition
Guns N' Roses™ Limited Edition
$9,500.00

    
Guns N' Roses™ Collectors Edition
Guns N' Roses™ Collectors Edition
$12,500.00


Yup, of course everyone would like to get one of these for their gameroom.

Not happening for most people unless you're rich.

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Re: Arcade 1up - Pinball, Star Wars with haptic Feedback
« Reply #7 on: October 11, 2020, 01:36:02 pm »
Umm... that's a pinball.  Virtual pinball is a completely different animal and it's like comparing apples and oranges.  You can easy get a superior virtual pinball to the ones arcade 1up is doing for around 1-2k. 

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Re: Arcade 1up - Pinball, Star Wars with haptic Feedback
« Reply #8 on: October 11, 2020, 01:50:50 pm »
Umm... that's a pinball.  Virtual pinball is a completely different animal and it's like comparing apples and oranges.  You can easy get a superior virtual pinball to the ones arcade 1up is doing for around 1-2k.

that post was in response to leapinlew, who doesn't like virtual pinball at all.

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Re: Arcade 1up - Pinball, Star Wars with haptic Feedback
« Reply #9 on: October 11, 2020, 01:54:02 pm »
Umm... that's a pinball.  Virtual pinball is a completely different animal and it's like comparing apples and oranges.  You can easy get a superior virtual pinball to the ones arcade 1up is doing for around 1-2k.

Atgames Pinball :
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https://armchairarcade.com/perspectives/2020/06/11/more-info-revealed-on-the-full-size-atgames-legends-pinball/

Some highlights uncovered in the video, including the partnership with FarSight Studios:

Q4 2020 release, $599.99 retail price
Full-size (approx. 90% scale)
Number of games – 22 (expandable)
32 inch color LCD monitor as main screen
1080p/60fps
14 inch color LCD monitor as back drop (simulates DMD or use as second screen)
Nudge and tilt (includes Accelerometer)
Haptic feedback – Tactile
Physical plunger
Adjustable legs
SDK for developers
PC and other pinball games via BYOG









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Re: Arcade 1up - Pinball, Star Wars with haptic Feedback
« Reply #10 on: October 11, 2020, 04:56:50 pm »

Yup, of course everyone would like to get one of these for their gameroom.

Not happening for most people unless you're rich.



I don't want one for my game room and while you may think I'm rich, I don't think I'm rich.

I really shouldn't be commenting on this topic. I'm not the target market. I struggle to like regular pinball, so I definitely don't like the digital knock offs. I am curious how successful they'll be with this cabinet. In my world, it's a small market.

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Re: Arcade 1up - Pinball, Star Wars with haptic Feedback
« Reply #11 on: October 11, 2020, 10:25:32 pm »
Even though they are totally different animals, considering some nuts are willing to pay 10k+ for a single table probably means there is enough interest in pinball to sell these.  My argument was that unlike the a1up arcade machines, there are actually virtual pinball tables on the market in the same general price range as these.... and you get a lot more for your money. 

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Re: Arcade 1up - Pinball, Star Wars with haptic Feedback
« Reply #12 on: October 11, 2020, 10:37:07 pm »

Yup, of course everyone would like to get one of these for their gameroom.

Not happening for most people unless you're rich.



I don't want one for my game room and while you may think I'm rich, I don't think I'm rich.

I really shouldn't be commenting on this topic. I'm not the target market. I struggle to like regular pinball, so I definitely don't like the digital knock offs. I am curious how successful they'll be with this cabinet. In my world, it's a small market.

Are you saying the market for digital pinball is small? its huge with this crowd, as is table hockey, basketball
and other arcade additions minituarized. So i'm not sure why you wonder about it.

There is the low cost ($300) toyshark, and mini (which is less), then the Atgames, and the Arcade 1up.
So there are already several hardware makers entering this market.

As Howard says, the sweet spot for home is $300-$700, which is the target. If you spend more, you can get
a lot better features.


I love pinball, but i don't like Pinball FX games, I prefer the classic late 70s-80s era tables. Anything too modern, I don't like.

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Re: Arcade 1up - Pinball, Star Wars with haptic Feedback
« Reply #13 on: October 16, 2020, 09:33:48 pm »
I have guessed wrong with this market enough that I dare not guess again. For me, digital pinball is dead from the get go. No interest. Will the infinity table sell? N Seems like it shouldn't be a big seller, but again, no idea.


Just to continue the randomness, I did look at some of the bartop models today. I'll consider buying the Galaga one for the shell, as soon as I can find it for really cheap (think yard sale cheap) to mod with a 60-n-1.


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Re: Arcade 1up - Pinball, Star Wars with haptic Feedback
« Reply #14 on: October 16, 2020, 09:55:15 pm »
They had them on sale on prime day for $45 somewhere.... only lasted a few hours though

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Re: Arcade 1up - Pinball, Star Wars with haptic Feedback
« Reply #15 on: October 17, 2020, 04:35:41 am »
I have guessed wrong with this market enough that I dare not guess again. For me, digital pinball is dead from the get go. No interest. Will the infinity table sell? N Seems like it shouldn't be a big seller, but again, no idea.


Just to continue the randomness, I did look at some of the bartop models today. I'll consider buying the Galaga one for the shell, as soon as I can find it for really cheap (think yard sale cheap) to mod with a 60-n-1.

the infinity table kickstarter reached its $50000 goal in about 15 minutes.

here's the current stats:

$717,501
pledged of $50,000 goal

996
backers

44
days to go

Not too shabby.

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Re: Arcade 1up - Pinball, Star Wars with haptic Feedback
« Reply #16 on: October 17, 2020, 11:50:02 am »
I have guessed wrong with this market enough that I dare not guess again. For me, digital pinball is dead from the get go. No interest. Will the infinity table sell? N Seems like it shouldn't be a big seller, but again, no idea.


Just to continue the randomness, I did look at some of the bartop models today. I'll consider buying the Galaga one for the shell, as soon as I can find it for really cheap (think yard sale cheap) to mod with a 60-n-1.

the infinity table kickstarter reached its $50000 goal in about 15 minutes.

here's the current stats:

$717,501
pledged of $50,000 goal

996
backers

44
days to go

Not too shabby.

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I had to look this up to see what it was. It looks like Arcade 1up will manufacture the digital bridge between my two main hobbies. Unfortunately, I don't think Pandemic and Ticket to Ride are worth $500. C'mon, slap some joysticks on your digital board gaming table, A1up.  :laugh2:

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Re: Arcade 1up - Pinball, Star Wars with haptic Feedback
« Reply #17 on: October 17, 2020, 01:57:20 pm »
I have guessed wrong with this market enough that I dare not guess again. For me, digital pinball is dead from the get go. No interest. Will the infinity table sell? N Seems like it shouldn't be a big seller, but again, no idea.


Just to continue the randomness, I did look at some of the bartop models today. I'll consider buying the Galaga one for the shell, as soon as I can find it for really cheap (think yard sale cheap) to mod with a 60-n-1.

the infinity table kickstarter reached its $50000 goal in about 15 minutes.

here's the current stats:

$717,501
pledged of $50,000 goal

996
backers

44
days to go

Not too shabby.

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I had to look this up to see what it was. It looks like Arcade 1up will manufacture the digital bridge between my two main hobbies. Unfortunately, I don't think Pandemic and Ticket to Ride are worth $500. C'mon, slap some joysticks on your digital board gaming table, A1up.  :laugh2:

they are laughing so hard all the way to the bank.

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Re: Arcade 1up - Pinball, Star Wars with haptic Feedback
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Atgames pinball, much higher specs: No price yet
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https://arcades.atgames.net/arcades/legends-pinball/

The AtGames Legends Pinball is The World’s First Connected Pinball™, providing an incredible simulation of arcade pinball play from the comfort of home. With 22 licensed, genre-defining arcade pinball games built-in, and the ability to easily add more, the fun never has to end. Thanks to its connectivity, Legends Pinball allows for online multiplayer via its unique Shared Screen Party Play™ feature, where each player can both chat and watch each other’s turn in real-time.

 

Product Features:

22 licensed arcade pinball games built-in (expandable)
32 inch high-definition LCD playfield
15.6 inch LCD backglass
High-performance USB, Wi-Fi, Ethernet, and Bluetooth support
Legends Arcade Platform
ArcadeNet®
BYOG™ – Bring Your Own Game™
AtGames Leagues Leaderboards™ (ALL)
Product Size: 64 x 42 x 19 inches (approximate; final dimensions subject to change)

Arcade-Quality Pinball Hardware
A massive 32 inch high-definition LCD playfield and 15.6 inch LCD backglass allow for authentic two-screen pinball play so you never miss a second of the high-speed, 60FPS action. Real glass over the embedded LCD playfield and LCD backglass complement the machine’s premium look and feel and allow for easy, scratch-free cleaning. The built-in stereo speakers let you hear every sound exactly the way it was intended. A real spring-loaded, precision plunger lets you try for the perfect skill shot. Two sets of arcade-quality flippers and nudge buttons keep you in full control of the action. Tactile feedback and accelerometers allow the Legends Pinball to capture the real feel and authentic play of an arcade pinball machine, while still allowing for the incredible versatility and limitless expansion that only virtual pinball can provide.

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Pause, Rewind, Save, and Load functionality allows you to play your favorite pinball tables your way. A built-in d-pad and extra buttons allow for easy menu navigation and additional gameplay options from its interchangeable control panel, with future upgrades for a joystick and trackball available for authentic vertical arcade gameplay. Legends Pinball is ready for everything from feature updates to game streaming to leaderboards and competitive play, and so much more.

Legends Arcade Platform
Through the Legends Arcade Platform’s ArcadeNet® and BYOG™ (Bring Your Own Game) functionality, you can enable access to even more games and features. ArcadeNet® provides instant play of a growing selection of games, online play, and high-score leaderboards. BYOG™ lets you play your digital PC games with the Legends Arcade Family Platform’s unique controls and display. With APL™ (Arcade Play Link) functionality, you can connect a variety of HDMI-, Bluetooth-, and USB-based devices and consoles for access to even more content.



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Re: Arcade 1up - Pinball, Star Wars with haptic Feedback
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Attack From Mars is a top 5 table, for sure. That could be cool, but I wonder what platform they are using for physics simulation.

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Attack From Mars is a top 5 table, for sure. That could be cool, but I wonder what platform they are using for physics simulation.

i'm pretty sure zen studios is using the same android emulator
customized for this platform.

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« Reply #22 on: Today at 12:23:25 pm »
Attack From Mars is a top 5 table, for sure. That could be cool, but I wonder what platform they are using for physics simulation.

i'm pretty sure zen studios is using the same android emulator
customized for this platform.

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That is interesting if true.  I've quite enjoyed Zen on my Switch and Android phone.  Attack from Mars in particular is a lot of fun to play on the Switch.