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Locke141:

--- Quote from: yotsuya on April 07, 2018, 10:42:53 pm ---I spent 21 years as an educator in public schools. The only way I found I could make more money was to move to a private school this year.

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That’s unfortunate, it would be unusual to make more in a private school here. Good luck to our brother and sister in the Arizona public schools in there fight for fair pay.

By the way, my 7th lad just got funded! Thanks to the guys from here who donate. I’m going to try posting multiple projects for labs at the same time.

leapinlew:
Fair pay? So, what is fair pay for a teacher anyhow?

From a consumer point of view, I had 100's of teachers over the years and only a handful of good ones, the vast majority were going through the motions, and a decent amount of bad teachers. I would love for the good teachers to get more money, but it's a government job with great hours, a good retirement plan, and there is no way to pay the good teachers a good salary without paying all the lazy bones too. To me, that sounds like a union job.

I would support tips for teachers. Pretty sure teachers feel like they are above tips, but I'm just not sure how we could directly increase good teachers salaries without feeding a pile of money into the machine with hopes of some of it going to the teachers.

Arroyo:

--- Quote from: leapinlew on April 11, 2018, 09:57:38 pm ---Fair pay? So, what is fair pay for a teacher anyhow?

From a consumer point of view, I had 100's of teachers over the years and only a handful of good ones, the vast majority were going through the motions, and a decent amount of bad teachers. I would love for the good teachers to get more money, but it's a government job with great hours, a good retirement plan, and there is no way to pay the good teachers a good salary without paying all the lazy bones too. To me, that sounds like a union job.

I would support tips for teachers. Pretty sure teachers feel like they are above tips, but I'm just not sure how we could directly increase good teachers salaries without feeding a pile of money into the machine with hopes of some of it going to the teachers.

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Not sure if you are aware (most people outside of the financial services are not), but pension contributions and subsequent pay for teachers is in lieu of social security contributions. Teachers therefore (in almost all cases) will not gain access to social security. As teachers typically make substantially less then their private counterparts (particularly at the collegiate level) there isn’t a lot of benefits from a financial perspective to be a teacher. Therefore one has to believe they are in it (or at least initially) for the genuine interest in educating the future working class, which will be the folks who will be paying into social security, medi-care, taxes, etc via income and property taxes so that when we reach an age of relying on those services they are funded.

I agree that tenure can be a touchy subject which may allow some teachers to slump into mediocrity, but on the whole I’m all for incentivizing smart capable people into teaching.

Howard_Casto:
Heh... someone complains that their teachers are mediocre and therefore don't deserve a raise when, in reality they are mediocre BECAUSE they don't get a raise. The only way to get a better quality worker in any field is to offer better pay.... then more qualified professionals will be willing to apply for the job. That being said teachers should absolutely be held accountable for the education level of their students.

yotsuya:

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