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--- Quote from: pbj on April 12, 2018, 09:55:24 am --- My wife teaches at the college level and spends a hell of a lot of nights grading until 2-3am for indifferent students. Then they want letters of recommendation for medical school. It's simultaneously hilarious and sad. You'd have to put a gun to my head to make me teach. :cheers: --- End quote --- My wife teaches and I have the same feelings. She makes an okay wage until you start looking at it hourly. There are many nights were she is up after I go to bed working on lesson plans or filling out mandated paperwork or IEP's. We stressed very strongly to our kids to not go into teaching. |
| Howard_Casto:
Well teachers make a decent income here compared to the average salary, but that's only because most people in our state are dirt poor. Nobody wants to spend money on education or anything that might improve the situation in the long run, mainly because a decent portion of the adults are poorly educated and don't know any better. Particularly in the southern portion of the state where all the men want to drop out of school and work in the mines while all the women stay at home and make babies that they can't afford. The mines pay a good comparative salary and that's all they can see. They can't see that most people that work in the mines are dead or severely impaired by the time they reach retirement age. The can't see that the industry is going away and no amount of fudging epa regulations or lifting of cap and trade taxes are going to change that. That doesn't even get into the environmental damage being done. The cause of all of this.... lack of education. I'm fairly stupid and even I have been educated to the point of where I can see the cause clearly. So yeah despite any issues I may have with the modern education system I'm all for funding in regards to teachers salary and better facilities. The only way to save the world is to make it's population smart enough to realize how easy it would be to save if we just all got on the same page. Complain about how the teachers aren't good enough or the students aren't grateful or whatever, but the only alternative is to NOT invest in education and that would make absolutely no sense as the goal is to make future generations better than our own and I'm pretty sure doing less instead of more isn't going to do that. |
| nitrogen_widget:
--- Quote from: pbj on April 12, 2018, 09:55:24 am ---The only way I see teachers "make it" around here is they're married to someone who's subsidizing the income. I don't think it's really possible to support a family with the salary, which is a pretty sad state of affairs. Bringing the income up to a livable wage ought to attract better talent and not waste too much on the duds. $50k plus a 3% increase every other year? Would make the option tenable for a lot more people. My wife teaches at the college level and spends a hell of a lot of nights grading until 2-3am for indifferent students. Then they want letters of recommendation for medical school. It's simultaneously hilarious and sad. You'd have to put a gun to my head to make me teach. :cheers: --- End quote --- depends on the school system really. in the richer suburbs the teachers make bank. My sister makes almost twice the median income for our area as a special ed teacher. but I have teacher friends in other districts that don't make nearly as much. However getting into the school she is in is hard because once someone gets in, they don't leave until they are old as dirt and retire. |
| Locke141:
--- Quote from: nitrogen_widget on April 12, 2018, 03:23:24 pm --- --- Quote from: pbj on April 12, 2018, 09:55:24 am ---The only way I see teachers "make it" around here is they're married to someone who's subsidizing the income. I don't think it's really possible to support a family with the salary, which is a pretty sad state of affairs. Bringing the income up to a livable wage ought to attract better talent and not waste too much on the duds. $50k plus a 3% increase every other year? Would make the option tenable for a lot more people. My wife teaches at the college level and spends a hell of a lot of nights grading until 2-3am for indifferent students. Then they want letters of recommendation for medical school. It's simultaneously hilarious and sad. You'd have to put a gun to my head to make me teach. :cheers: --- End quote --- depends on the school system really. in the richer suburbs the teachers make bank. My sister makes almost twice the median income for our area as a special ed teacher. but I have teacher friends in other districts that don't make nearly as much. However getting into the school she is in is hard because once someone gets in, they don't leave until they are old as dirt and retire. --- End quote --- That’s spot on. In Long Island teacher can make much more then the city. It seems that the people here who think teachers are lazy and their jobs are EZ, all live in areas with low performing schools that don’t pay very well. |
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