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opt2not:
Oh hey, another show Howard likes that I find is crap.

We're on Episode 6 and it's been a struggle.  From the gratuitous sex scenes, the overacted and hard to understand Latina Detective (wtf is with all the spanish dialogue??), to the various plot holes I've been having a hard time sitting through it. It wants to be like Blade Runner so hard, but it lacks the budget to give it that full cyberpunk metropolis feeling. They need to seriously hire 3x as many extras for some of those city scenes.

The only saving grace for the show is the personality of AI hotel concierge.

Which leads me to another point, there are too many themes going on here. It's like "hey look at us, we're sci-fi!". They have cyber simulations or The Matrix constructs, AI sentience, cyborg technology, cryo jail ala Demolition Man...I'm just waiting for them to break out Parallel Universes and Time Travel and they'd have the complete set.

Meh, I'll watch this to the end of this season I guess since I'm invested now. But overall the show is forgettable.
8BitMonk:
Man there's just no pleasing some people.  ;)

I thought maybe the reason Rei waited so long to free her brother was because her deal with the Protectorate was only to save herself, he was a traitor of the highest order and needed to be made an example of. By getting Bancroft to eventually do it she may have been trying to beat the deal she made with them.

* What's gratuitous about the sex scenes, unlike some other shows it actually plays into the plot.
* The acting is fine, the cop is Latino so she's gonna speak Spanish occasionally, I don't get why you find that so off-putting.
* You think the production quality is low because the streets didn't have enough extras on them? I thought the visuals were excellent.
* The sci-fi themes all blended nicely it wasn't like they shoe-horned in some random unrelated themes to try to check a box, I really don't get your point here.

Why would you waste 4 more hours of your life watching it if you really dislike it that much?
Le Chuck:
I’m about half way through. It’s fun. Torture episode was interesting.
opt2not:
Respectfully I disagree with you. It’s ok, not everyone has to like the same things.
It makes us “individuals” with our own tastes.
I just have higher standards is all.

Look, the world just feels empty. It doesn’t have the fullness they are trying to sell you on, because they blew all their budget on set design but not on extras. Case in point is the chase scene with that bald tattoo guy. There were like maybe 5 people in the streets during the day and he manages to “bump” into all five while running? Just run around them, idiot! You have so much room on the street because there are few extras!!

The visuals are hit or miss at best. VR sequences are super budget with thier .
Or they blur the edges of the screen making it “look dreamy”.
Another point to why this show has obvious budget constraints is they filmed it in Vancouver. I recognized at least 5 major locations: The Sea-to-sky suspension bridge, the Glowbal/Telus building, Stanley Park, Granville Hotel, and the First Nations Heritage Museum.
Just add some camera tricks, soft focus and an outdoor noodle bar in the rain and you’ve got Blade Runner, right??  Bzzzt, wrong. Blade Runner had more practical effects to make it feel authentic, it had varied lighting, rather than everything being grey and even lit. Not cheap rate compositing tricks to make you think it’s that gloomy, gritty, other-worldly, dreamy, or even full (which they've failed at).

Acting: Ortega got better by the 8th episode. Guess it took her that long to get in the groove. But for the first half of the series her accent would be either too thick, she’d rush her lines, or over exaggerate a reaction.
I’m having the opposite problem with the sister, she’s not acting enough. It’s hard to tell when she’s mad or not! If they casted her as a AI I could see her selling that better. Her line delivery is just awful. I'm assuming she added to the failure of Doll House (probably not, but what else is she notable for?)

Sex:  I was put off by how quickly they jumped into a sex scene and how every attractive main female character had to have a full nude scene. Ortega, Pointy nips rich lady, Sister...I’m only on episode 8 so I’m sure someone else gets a nude scene.

No I don’t agree with you on the themes. This show is definitely checking off the Sci-fi list. Like I said, I’m waiting for them to add parallel universes and time traveling to compete the set.

The whole cloning, backup data issue is so clumsy and contrary to the living forever theme that people just look passed it. I keep asking myself, if you restore your backup in a clone, isn’t that NOT you??  How is that a continuation of your mind? It's like a computer file, once you make a copy that's a whole different file! The whole idea is broken and they haven’t explained how it really works.

As to why I keep watching is to have something to contradict all the sheep out there that recommend these shows to others, acting like their surrogate Marketing Teams. If you promote weak quality and people accept it like the status quo, then there is no need to improve.

We might as well all have frankenpanels with Angled joysticks with lightning mame art on all our cabinets.  :lol

 
Howard_Casto:

--- Quote from: 8BitMonk on February 06, 2018, 12:21:40 pm ---Why would you waste 4 more hours of your life watching it if you really dislike it that much?

--- End quote ---

Because I like it, so he has to go out of his way bashing it.  If I had said I hated it he would have chimed in saying how great it was. 

Don't pay any attention to him... he keeps trying to convince everyone that Prime Federation Force was good, so there you go. 
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