Ive used happ competion joysticks and for some reason never felt i could get good diagonals on them.. after that i tried zippyy joysticks on a budget build and loved them. Robotron was super easy to be accurate with for instance. But recently on my new build ive found that all 3 of my zippyy joys seems to have crapped out on one diagonal direction. I dunno if maybe they switched quality, or its just me but all my zippyys seem to have one direction not register awhile after use. So before i order new ones i figured id ask what the newest well regarded joys are. I dont care about click sounds, etc. Im a casual gamer who loves the hobby and generally wont care or notice small nuances some might. I just want a nice joy that would feel exceptionally well both playing a game like robotron, but as well as fighters. Im not against trying happ again if suggested. Its been years since ive used em.. so any suggestions for replacing my cab joys? Also need a good dedicated 4 way. Zippyy is good for the switchable plate but i find the 4 way to feel supppper crappy on the zippyy