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Author Topic: I have now tried Virtual Reality and it is amazing  (Read 166915 times)

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Re: I have now tried Virtual Reality and it is amazing
« Reply #1120 on: May 16, 2021, 09:52:56 pm »
VR is at an all time low for me. The Quest has killed PC VR and the bound pushing PC VR games. Not being able to upgrade your graphics card for the last year has also done no favors. I  want more FOV, more resolution combined with better games than even Half life Alex to take advantage of it and it has all completely stopped. I don't know when it will start up again but at this rate we are looking at another 2 years minimum of nothing.

They just announced the Vive Pro 2… WOW that's SH@T!

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Re: I have now tried Virtual Reality and it is amazing
« Reply #1121 on: May 21, 2021, 04:16:46 pm »
Vive Pro 2 looks interesting. Boost in FoV, higher refresh rate, significant boost in resolution, and (thankfully) utilizing SteamVR tracking. I'm skeptical of the contrast ratio with the their switch to LCD from OLED, but I we'll just have to wait and see how it performs.

Insofar as the state of VR as a whole, I do feel like I'm in a holding pattern right now. This past year I played VR the absolute least since getting into it those 5 years ago. Instead, I started catching up on my backlog of non-VR gaming titles. And this made me realize what I really want are more in-depth games for VR that I can really sink my teeth into.

For example, I recently played Dark Souls for the first time. While playing it, I kept thinking how amazing it would be if a game like In Death had a Dark Souls-style world to explore and an extended campaign to complete.

It feels like we're still a ways off from the level of VR adoption necessary to drive such gaming experiences in VR.

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Re: I have now tried Virtual Reality and it is amazing
« Reply #1122 on: May 21, 2021, 09:18:13 pm »
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Vive Pro 2 looks interesting. Boost in FoV, higher refresh rate, significant boost in resolution, and (thankfully) utilizing SteamVR tracking. I'm skeptical of the contrast ratio with the their switch to LCD from OLED, but I we'll just have to wait and see how it performs.

Insofar as the state of VR as a whole, I do feel like I'm in a holding pattern right now. This past year I played VR the absolute least since getting into it those 5 years ago. Instead, I started catching up on my backlog of non-VR gaming titles. And this made me realize what I really want are more in-depth games for VR that I can really sink my teeth into.

For example, I recently played Dark Souls for the first time. While playing it, I kept thinking how amazing it would be if a game like In Death had a Dark Souls-style world to explore and an extended campaign to complete.


That FOV claim on the Vive pro 2 is a straight up lie. It is the same case as the Vive and Vive pro. Unless you think moving your eyes close to the lens in regular Vive is 120 FOV.

The Vive pro they pretty much just put in a higher resolution screen at the same time somehow managing to put in worse headphones than the Vive deluxe audio strap and a worse mic than the regular Vive. Then they had the freakin audacity to charge more for the headset by itself than they charged for the entire launch price of the regular Vive complete with base stations, motion controllers and free games.

I don't trust them at all. I don't know if they changed out the lenses this time from the god ray mess that was on the original Vive but I feel all they did was once again put on new screens and called it pro 2.

In Death is a great game it has great gameplay, simple and effective satisfying and never leaving you board in VR. I just found out the Quest is getting updates to that game the PC is not getting. A different studio took over and it is just focused on the Quest sales.

Walking Dead Saints and Sinners is a great game, I will go back to that every week or so. Boneworks is cool I just keep getting motion sick playing it. Half-life Alyx is crazy, that game looks like it was pulled 5 years from the future. Literally the game engines of today like Unity don't have the capability of even creating something like that today. Not much else worthy of spending a lot of time in.


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Re: I have now tried Virtual Reality and it is amazing
« Reply #1123 on: May 22, 2021, 01:14:55 pm »
I'm willing to wait until the Vive Pro 2 is released before passing judgement. There was a lot of naysaying about the original Vive Pro, but I found it to be quite a decent headset and didn't run into the issues many people had reported, especially with the audio. It remains my preferred headset to use for VR.

Funny you mention that about HL: Alyx, because that's the main reason I still haven't played it (that, plus I haven't played HL: Ep1 and 2). I'm worried that if I do play it, it's just going to leave me wanting for other similar experiences in VR. Though this may be moot by now, since this past year I've been left wanting for those experiences anyway.

Saints & Sinners is an odd one for me. It's a competently made VR game with solid production values. But I couldn't really get into it, I think mainly due to the theme. I was never a big fan of the whole zombie thing, so despite it being a decent game, I didn't end up playing it much. Had it been sci-fi themed or grimdark fantasy, I probably would have put more time into it.

I guess there isn't much else to do but just wait and see what appears on the horizon. VR is still really cool technology, we just need some more in-depth content to go with it.


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Re: I have now tried Virtual Reality and it is amazing
« Reply #1124 on: June 02, 2021, 08:51:45 pm »
I want to say you don't need to play Half Life 1 and 2 but the ending to Half Life Alyx will make no sense unless you have played 2.

I would say just watch the ending to Half Life 2. You are playing the girl in Half Life Alex and she gets involved in some time travel ---steaming pile of meadow muffin--- and changes the ending to Half Life 2

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Re: I have now tried Virtual Reality and it is amazing
« Reply #1125 on: June 02, 2021, 11:59:22 pm »
Apparently there’s some No Mans Sky update.  I paid ~$7 for that game years ago.  Is there any actual game there yet?

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Re: I have now tried Virtual Reality and it is amazing
« Reply #1126 on: June 03, 2022, 03:41:50 pm »

Just a note for those who may not know.  Someone named "Praydog" has made an amazing mod for Resident Evil 7, which finally brings VR to the PC version of that game.  It's much better than the PSVR version and allows for shooting and other functions using VR controllers.  Super easy to install and it really feels like a 1st party effort.  Not only that, he has done the same for RE2, RE3 and RE8.

And further, the entire RE franchise is on sale now on Steam.  I tried the RE:7 mod first and then immediately went to Humble Bundle for the rest of them (where they were on sale at the time).  Easily one of the best experiences in VR right now, but it's not for scaredy cats.  It's gets pretty visceral at times.

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Re: I have now tried Virtual Reality and it is amazing
« Reply #1127 on: June 06, 2022, 01:03:29 am »
Thanks for the heads up. I had to youtube it because I had not heard of it yet. Graphics look pretty good but it does not look like you can move or pick up any items which is kind of a let down after coming off of Walking Dead and Half Life Alex. I just bought it off steam I will mod it later

The development of big VR games feels like it has all but stopped because of low sales and now with gotcha games like Diablo Immortal coming out and making billions from the stupidest that society has to offer we are not going to see anything good be developed for VR in quite some time.


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Re: I have now tried Virtual Reality and it is amazing
« Reply #1128 on: June 07, 2022, 01:00:04 pm »
The development of big VR games feels like it has all but stopped because of low sales and now with gotcha games like Diablo Immortal coming out and making billions from the stupidest that society has to offer we are not going to see anything good be developed for VR in quite some time.

I think all of the hand-wringing about the Quest bringing down (in quality) PCVR was justified.  Developers are following the path of least resistance and possibilities for the highest returns.  Unfortunately for them, it's not a long term strategy for success, as the more shovelware there is, the more likely the Quest will end up like the Wii when users realize that they have experienced everything the unit has to offer and become bored with it.

I'm really hoping the next version of the Quest comes standard with a micro-HDMI and USB port so that it can be tethered directly to a PC if the user wants to do that.  At least that way, there will be an impetus for developers to up their game in order to grab that potential market segment, along with a higher likelihood that users will jump the gap to the full fledged experience.  Of course, that goes against the plans of the FB overlords, so I'm not holding my breath.

On the other hand, I think I would be perfectly happy if the modding of older PC titles for VR took off in a big way.  It's the path I thought 1st party developers should have pursued in the first place.  The games from 5 to 10 years ago were far less demanding with regard to system resources, but were still fully developed, long-form experiences.  They can also be had relatively cheap on sale and many a gamer might already have those titles in their respective collections.  IMHO, 1st party developers are missing the boat, as they could have charged for these additions to their library and squeezed out more revenue.

RE:7 is a great example.  5 years old and now pretty much able to hold it's own against a game like HL:Alyx in VR.  It's still not as polished, but I don't think the modder is done with the series yet.  From what I have heard, and I don't know if it's true, he has Patreon subscribers which amount to about 25k of income per month.  So it can be a lucrative gig for talented individuals.  And all born out of frustration with Capcom refusing to give PC users what was available to PSVR users at launch time.

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Re: I have now tried Virtual Reality and it is amazing
« Reply #1129 on: June 07, 2022, 04:27:52 pm »
I need to dust off the PSVR and try Resident Evil 7 again.  I managed to get through my wife stabbing me with a screwdriver (been there, done that) but I noped out in level 2 when the cannibals started chasing me around the hallways and eating me. 

I recently tried The Inpatient for PSVR.  It's pretty cool but sadly started resorting to jump scares.  I played for awhile with the headset on my lap and watching the TV screen.  Should probably finish that one up.




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Re: I have now tried Virtual Reality and it is amazing
« Reply #1130 on: June 10, 2022, 11:54:56 am »
Apparently there’s some No Mans Sky update.  I paid ~$7 for that game years ago.  Is there any actual game there yet?

Eh, not really.  A lot of game mechanics have been updated, and the reviews I read say it's close to becoming the game it was hyped up to be.  But there is still the mindless tedium of constantly having to mine the same resources over and over again.

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Re: I have now tried Virtual Reality and it is amazing
« Reply #1131 on: June 10, 2022, 10:44:13 pm »
There was some weird glitch on the PS4 version where it sounds like someone behind you is kicking an empty trash can if you use a Dualshock for controls.  It was so annoying I threw in the towel.