Can I get rid of tearing in the top with use of frame_delay and vsync_offset?

[inv]

Hi.

I have a question of tearing when use a 1080p lcd and groovymame 0.180 d3d9ex 64bits version with win10.

I use a NVIDIA GeForce GTX 960 card.

When I set frame_delay to 1, there is a tearing appear in the top of screen. Set vsync_offset to 100 or 90 or 120 can't help.

But I really like the low latency effect with frame_delay.

Can I eliminate the tearing with use of frame_delay and vsync_offset?


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[haynor666]

Did You try set it using this instructions - http://geedorah.com/eiusdemmodi/forum/viewtopic.php?id=293 ?

[Calamity]

Are you using any hlsl filter?

[inv]

I don't use HLSL or GLSL, just 1080p full screen mode with d3d9ex option.

The tearing are some static tearing on the upper side of the screen.

I try to set vsync_offset from 1 to 150, but don't work.

[inv]

Did You try set it using this instructions - http://geedorah.com/eiusdemmodi/forum/viewtopic.php?id=293 ?

I followed the suggestions of instructions but the tearing are still here...

[Calamity]

There should be a noticeable change on the tearing line position by using different values of -vsync_offset.

If you see that change but still can't manage to hide the line completely, then probably there's not much that can be done.

You need a somewhat powerful GPU to run frame delay without tearing on high resolution display. I have a Radeon R9 270 and get no tearing on a 2560x1600 display, -video d3d, with no hlsl shaders. According to this, your GeForce GTX 960 is more powerful, and 1080p is a less exigent resolution, so I don't know what's going on.

[inv]

I begin to suspect my video card hardware...

I try to uninstall my video card driver and reinstall it, but no effect.

Don't want to reinstall windows to test it...