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Re: Warlords Cocktail Project (End Template Done)
« Reply #40 on: January 12, 2006, 03:05:39 pm »
Thats where my wooden t-shirt went.   ::)


Man it looks great so far I cant wait to see it completed
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Re: Warlords Cocktail Project (Basic Ends Cut)
« Reply #41 on: January 13, 2006, 12:59:34 am »
Two peas in a pot.
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Re: Warlords Cocktail Project (Basic Ends Cut with laminate Bit)
« Reply #42 on: January 13, 2006, 02:18:12 am »
Kraw, the cutout for the glass seems awful deep.  Optical illusion, or something you have in the works?
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Re: Warlords Cocktail Project (Basic Ends Cut with laminate Bit)
« Reply #43 on: January 13, 2006, 10:49:22 am »
Hey Drew  -Doesn't look like the old Goldmine made it to the HOF. :o

Actually the cutout holds a piece of smoked plexi which also sits on the tabs of a paper bezel.
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Re: Warlords Cocktail Project (Basic Ends Cut with laminate Bit)
« Reply #44 on: January 13, 2006, 12:27:16 pm »
Yeah, that's what I was talking about.  I'm having a tough time looking at it and it looks so deep, that's all. :)
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Re: Warlords Cocktail Project (Basic Ends Cut with laminate Bit)
« Reply #45 on: January 13, 2006, 08:47:25 pm »
What would you guys do?

I have an entire working original Warlords system to include the harness, monitor, PCB, sound board, and transformer.
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Re: Warlords Cocktail Project (Original or Mame Electronics)
« Reply #46 on: January 13, 2006, 09:18:36 pm »
well,

to me it sounded like you have a whole original warlords cocktail, so i'd leave that alone, but if you've just made a perfect repro and just have the internals for a warlords, then go ahead and stick it in your perfect clone.

keep up the good work, i've never played the game but your project is done so well i can't help but be interested.

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Re: Warlords Cocktail Project (Original or Mame Electronics)
« Reply #47 on: January 13, 2006, 09:33:56 pm »
Hey

Yes your right I do have an original cab.  I bought it cheap off Ebay.  The problem is the cab is covered in formica.  So its nearly impossible to repair it with out disassembly.  When I received it I immediately noticed that someone had tried to break into the coin drawer by standing on it.  This splintered the bottom destroying the particle board sides as the staples were ripped out.  This included many supports and blocking inside the cab.  This is why I took detailed measurements to allow me to fix it up If I decided to disassemble a portion of it for repair.  This is my dilemma.  I have yet seen an answer to the debate of scratch building a cab in exact dimensions and using all original hardware and electronics with repro artwork to refurbish a cab.

I started this project with this in mind and started having second thought.  But I could not bring myself to use particle board.

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Re: Warlords Cocktail Project (Original or Mame Electronics)
« Reply #48 on: January 13, 2006, 11:06:29 pm »
IMO, definately use the original parts for your repro.  Think of it as a restoration, but instead of having to just replace a few damaged panels, you had to replace every damaged panel! ;)
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Re: Warlords Cocktail Project (Original or Mame Electronics)
« Reply #49 on: January 14, 2006, 10:18:40 am »
Saving the crapped up SHELL of a game?  Waste of time if they covered the whole dang thing in formica.  You've saved the innards, you're NOT the person who ruined the rest of the cab.  It's stupid to worry about saving material that was used, especially when it's particle board.  That's like worrying about restoring one of those crappy video cabinets from Wal-Mart that's all pressboard and the formica is starting to buckle.  Not worth the investment.

Now, had cabs been made out of real wood, or if you were able to save the artwork, you'd be talking a different issue, but since neither of these are possible, just stick the guts into your project here.  Removing paint, one thing, removing formica, TOTALLY different ballgame.

Look at it like this - you're building a cab from scratch, just like the manufacturer did.  The difference is that you're not making any more.  You're building a better home for the parts, and keeping a "machine" alive.  Or, look at it another way.  All the particle board is damaged, you're just making several replacement panels to get it back in good condition.

This is like stupid building codes in WI where you can't build on certain properties, but you can "renovate" the existing structure, and can tear EVERYTHING down, EXCEPT one original wall.  Then, the next year after your "renovation", you "realize" ::) that the old wall is experiencing "problems", so you tear it down and "repair" it.
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Re: Warlords Cocktail Project (Original or Mame Electronics)
« Reply #50 on: January 14, 2006, 02:36:47 pm »
Ok

I guess this would be the same as all the people buying the dragons lair cabinets and others off the web to replace there broken down cabs.
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Re: Warlords Cocktail Project (Original or Mame Electronics)
« Reply #51 on: January 14, 2006, 03:50:20 pm »
Personally I think, since you have the skills, that you should duplicate the original as close as possible, even bits that aren't 'needed'.  Then move all the parts over, and junk the original cab.  That way you are really restoring the cabinet, and it would be original looking even to someone who was familiar with that cabinet.  I can't see anyone having a problem with that kind of restoration.
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Re: Warlords Cocktail Project (Original or Mame Electronics)
« Reply #52 on: January 14, 2006, 05:31:53 pm »
yep, use the original parts and make the "repaired" cab as original as possible, except the particle board.

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Re: Warlords Cocktail Project (Original or Mame Electronics)
« Reply #53 on: January 14, 2006, 06:54:35 pm »
Use the original parts.  It's a dedicated machine and that just makes it that much more authentic.


I think the reason Goldmine didn't go into the HOF is because you don't have a website for it.  All cabs in the HOF are required to have their own website outside of BYOAC.

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Re: Warlords Cocktail Project (Original or Mame Electronics)
« Reply #54 on: January 14, 2006, 07:02:25 pm »
Evnin'

Well you guys have convinced me.  Ill need to get a few parts like a cap kit for the old sanyo 14" and a big blue cap for the power supply.  Heres a question, will I have the balls to throw the old cabinet away.  I wonder how many of you could do that will a clear concious.

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Re: Warlords Cocktail Project (Original it is)
« Reply #55 on: January 14, 2006, 07:21:46 pm »
With enough gasoline, I wouldn't even have a problem warming my backside with it. 
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Re: Warlords Cocktail Project (Original it is)
« Reply #56 on: January 14, 2006, 07:32:01 pm »
One more question

I was able to get the wood grain formica off of the particle board and its probably reuseable but dull from age.  Would you guys find a close match and use new formica to match the rest of the new cab or try to use the old.
Each end of the cabinet was slighly differant so I know I wont get a good fit but it can be done.

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Re: Warlords Cocktail Project (Original it is)
« Reply #57 on: January 14, 2006, 07:34:25 pm »
I dunno what "slightly dull" means, but if it's just faded, you might be able to use a poly to revive it.
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Re: Warlords Cocktail Project (Original it is)
« Reply #58 on: January 14, 2006, 09:57:08 pm »
If you can salvage the veneer, then do so.  There's something about atari that just screams woodgrain, and if you can use the vintage stuff, so much the cooler!
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Re: Warlords Cocktail Project (Original it is)
« Reply #59 on: January 16, 2006, 07:19:20 pm »
yeah, but don't crap up your almost perfect cab with less than spectacular stuff.  if you can get a close match, redo it.

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Re: Warlords Cocktail Project (Original it is)
« Reply #60 on: January 21, 2006, 12:59:57 pm »
I made a mistake and had to re-cut the end panels.  Can't even read my own drawings.  There perfect now.  Nice and square with good CP angles.  I'm thinking about saving all my original hardware and building an original out of particle board later on.  My goal was to build a Mame so others could build one to.  Ive changed my mind on the direction of this one.  As you can see the measurements are all good on the CAD drawings.

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Re: Warlords Cocktail Project (Back to Mame cabinet project)
« Reply #61 on: January 22, 2006, 01:32:26 am »
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Re: Warlords Cocktail Project (Back to Mame cabinet project)
« Reply #62 on: January 22, 2006, 03:27:44 am »
Looks like I found a mistake in my plan which I will change later.  The CP shelf (panel E) sits 1/8" lower.

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Re: Warlords Cocktail Project
« Reply #63 on: January 28, 2006, 01:34:40 pm »
The original cab had many differences in the dimensions of the end panels.  In the beginning I could only guess about the "average dimensions"  as I trial fit these end panels I found that differant measurements would work better.  They are within a 1/16 of the plans but they look and fit a hell of alot better.  It also flows properly with the shape of the CP.  Anyway Ive finished Panel B front and back.

I will be making these revisions to the plans later.

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Re: Warlords Cocktail Project (Back to Mame cabinet project)
« Reply #64 on: January 28, 2006, 01:36:03 pm »
Here is the final.....   Its unfastened.
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Re: Warlords Cocktail Project
« Reply #65 on: February 19, 2007, 03:00:06 am »
Hey Kraw - I just discovered this great project, how did this turn out?

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Re: Warlords Cocktail Project
« Reply #66 on: February 19, 2007, 05:48:22 pm »
Sorry - been busy with school

The project sits waiting to be completed.  Maybe its time to finish it.

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Re: Warlords Cocktail Project
« Reply #67 on: February 19, 2007, 06:09:05 pm »
Sorry - been busy with school

The project sits waiting to be completed.  Maybe its time to finish it.

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Re: Warlords Cocktail Project
« Reply #68 on: May 04, 2019, 02:25:33 am »
Sorry for bringing this back. This is the only complete plans I can find. Now that this work fully in raspberry pie I like to attempt a build. I would  like to build the top half so I can bring it to friends places and put it on their coffee table to play. Is there a assembly drawing/guide so I can figure out which pieces I need to make/assemble