DemulShooter (Dual light gun on DEMUL, Model2, Dolphin, Silent Hill, etc...)

[POPO69]

Hoping someone can help. Target Terror Gold using dolphin/demulshooter I can't get the shoot off screen reload to work. Using gun4ir. Any help is appreciated

Anyone?

@argonlefou any ideas on this please?

Hello I found on youtube the patch to play2 player gun4ir on the game. Does anyone do the test?

[YoBoys]

Where's the patch?

[POPO69]

voila mon ami

[YoBoys]

voila mon ami

That's not Target Terror

[hyo2012]

Hi Argon.

I would like to talk about the 3D features of Dark Escape 4D.

Those of you who have played this game in the arcade will know that it is a game with a great 3D effect. Playing this game in 2D mode and 3D mode are completely different experiences.

Recently, it became playable with the Rpcs3 emulator.
Anyone who has a 1080p passive 3DTV can play the game in 3D by setting it to 3D in test mode.
For that, you need to set the default resolution to 1920x1080 in custom configuration.
(excute Rpcs-gun, Dark Escape 4D banner -> Right click, create custom cunfiguration)

However, if I set it to 1920x1080, the aim becomes inaccurate even if I use demulshooter.

I ask for help. Is it possible to aim correctly even at 1080p default resolution settings?

[argonlefou]

Hi Argon.

I would like to talk about the 3D features of Dark Escape 4D.

Those of you who have played this game in the arcade will know that it is a game with a great 3D effect. Playing this game in 2D mode and 3D mode are completely different experiences.

Recently, it became playable with the Rpcs3 emulator.
Anyone who has a 1080p passive 3DTV can play the game in 3D by setting it to 3D in test mode.
For that, you need to set the default resolution to 1920x1080 in custom configuration.
(excute Rpcs-gun, Dark Escape 4D banner -> Right click, create custom cunfiguration)

However, if I set it to 1920x1080, the aim becomes inaccurate even if I use demulshooter.

I ask for help. Is it possible to aim correctly even at 1080p default resolution settings?

Hi,

Indeed, I tried to change the game resolution in the emulator config and this causes the aim to be off.

The explanation is simple : DemulShooter has hardcoded 1280x720 resolution for the game (because.....it was the original values of the game)
Aim is easily rectified if I change that value to 10920x1080

The question will now be : I need to find somewhere in the game/emulator memory where that value is stored so that DemulShooter can read it and adapt accordingly.
I won't be able to search for that before a week or two, but here's a modified DemulShooterX64.exe with hardcoded 1920x1080 resolution for DeadEscape that you can use to wait for a more solid solution

[hyo2012]

Hi Argon.

I would like to talk about the 3D features of Dark Escape 4D.

Those of you who have played this game in the arcade will know that it is a game with a great 3D effect. Playing this game in 2D mode and 3D mode are completely different experiences.

Recently, it became playable with the Rpcs3 emulator.
Anyone who has a 1080p passive 3DTV can play the game in 3D by setting it to 3D in test mode.
For that, you need to set the default resolution to 1920x1080 in custom configuration.
(excute Rpcs-gun, Dark Escape 4D banner -> Right click, create custom cunfiguration)

However, if I set it to 1920x1080, the aim becomes inaccurate even if I use demulshooter.

I ask for help. Is it possible to aim correctly even at 1080p default resolution settings?

Hi,

Indeed, I tried to change the game resolution in the emulator config and this causes the aim to be off.

The explanation is simple : DemulShooter has hardcoded 1280x720 resolution for the game (because.....it was the original values of the game)
Aim is easily rectified if I change that value to 10920x1080

The question will now be : I need to find somewhere in the game/emulator memory where that value is stored so that DemulShooter can read it and adapt accordingly.
I won't be able to search for that before a week or two, but here's a modified DemulShooterX64.exe with hardcoded 1920x1080 resolution for DeadEscape that you can use to wait for a more solid solution

Thanks for quick reply, Argon

I tried modified demulshooterx64.exe
The aiming point is accurate on the stage select screen, but in actual game play, aiming point is restricted by 1280x720 upper left screen range.
I think the actual play screen is limited to 2/3 of the stage select screen range.
Original demulshooterx64.exe act same way on 1920x1080 resolution setting. Stage select is restricted by 1280x720 range, and game play is more restricted about 2/3 of 1280 x 720
So, in order to aim accurately in actual gameplay with 1920x1080 resolution, it seems that demulshooterx64.exe needs to be modified to 2880x1620 resolution. (2880 x 2/3 = 1920)
Is that possible?
I'm worried that I'm bothering you.
Thank you so much.

Below is my rpcs3 setting for who interested in 3d game play on Dark Escape 4D.
In custom configuration, Default resolution 1920 x 1080 and Resolution Scale 600%. Output Scaling nearest.
You can set Resolution Scale 150% but you can see visual artifacts on 150% setting.

[GaussTek]

Hello!

Thanks for your hard work! Can you reupload the Dead Escape 3D patcher from first post? Link is dead (or perhaps the patcher isn't needed anymore?)

Thank you again!

[argonlefou]

Hmm, I didn't went past the select screen to test 

So yes, it's not working.
But even a 2880x1620 harcoded value wouldn't work : the game must crop values somewhere (it is usual that game makes sure values don't go out of their wanted axis range values) and it becomes a total mess on screen.

There are some cropping that have already been removed (mainly to allow moving the cursor to the border of the screen, it initially is stuck with some kind of margin, not to go into GUI drawings)
But changing that, means unpacking the game again and search in the PPU cache files, etc....etc....
All of that to make a new PPU patch
It's not only DemulShooter-related

Unfortunatelly, it''s way too time expensive for beeing possible right now

That's a very good example for why, as a general rule, messing with display settings on a lightgun game (and even more when it's emulated) is not a good thing to do 

[hyo2012]

Hmm, I didn't went past the select screen to test 

So yes, it's not working.
But even a 2880x1620 harcoded value wouldn't work : the game must crop values somewhere (it is usual that game makes sure values don't go out of their wanted axis range values) and it becomes a total mess on screen.

There are some cropping that have already been removed (mainly to allow moving the cursor to the border of the screen, it initially is stuck with some kind of margin, not to go into GUI drawings)
But changing that, means unpacking the game again and search in the PPU cache files, etc....etc....
All of that to make a new PPU patch
It's not only DemulShooter-related

Unfortunatelly, it''s way too time expensive for beeing possible right now

That's a very good example for why, as a general rule, messing with display settings on a lightgun game (and even more when it's emulated) is not a good thing to do 

Oh, I see. Thank you for your reply.

However, the actual gameplay range was expanded when using demulshooterx64.exe in the 1080p version compared to when using the 720p version.
When I use 720p version of demulshooterx64.exe on 1080p setting of rpcs3, actual game play range is not reaching even half of screen, but using 1080p version of demulshooter, play range expanded to 2/3 of screen.
This is why I thought it was related to the resolution value of demulshooterx64.exe rather than simply cropping in the game.

So, if you modify demulshooterx64.exe to 2880x1620 resolution, even if the aim moves a little more than the actual lightgun aim on the stage select screen, the aim seems to be correct in actual gameplay, I think.

If it is not difficult to modify demulshooterx64.exe at 2880x1620 resolution, I would appreciate it if you could give it a try.

[hyo2012]

I posted the wrong comment by mistake. But seems to I can't delete it. So I am edited it.

[argonlefou]

If it is not difficult to modify demulshooterx64.exe at 2880x1620 resolution, I would appreciate it if you could give it a try.

Unfortunately, as I said previously, changing it with these values results in nothing but a mess : cursor is jumping everywhere

[hyo2012]

If it is not difficult to modify demulshooterx64.exe at 2880x1620 resolution, I would appreciate it if you could give it a try.

Unfortunately, as I said previously, changing it with these values results in nothing but a mess : cursor is jumping everywhere

All right. Thank you for your hard work.
Still, I am satisfied because it plays very well in 2D with the 720p setting.
Later when you have time, I'd appreciate it if you could check it out at 1080p settings.

[lllll44]

Is there a way argon can make demulshooter work with the standalone version of "Time crisis 4" on rpcs3? its the best version cause you can disable the gun crosshair so its just like the arcade version.
in the razing storm collection version you cant.

[ThatOneSeong]

Is there a way argon can make demulshooter work with the standalone version of "Time crisis 4" on rpcs3? its the best version cause you can disable the gun crosshair so its just like the arcade version.
in the razing storm collection version you cant.

That would require Guncon 3 support, which hasn't been implemented into RPCS3 yet, would it not? Kinda need a working implementation of a gun controller to hook into in the first place.

[POPO69]

Hello, who can share the mamehooker.ini of Operation Ghost Game please? I play with GUN4IR. I have many problem with sub-machine gun. Very very thanks

[lllll44]

Is there a way argon can make demulshooter work with the standalone version of "Time crisis 4" on rpcs3? its the best version cause you can disable the gun crosshair so its just like the arcade version.
in the razing storm collection version you cant.

That would require Guncon 3 support, which hasn't been implemented into RPCS3 yet, would it not? Kinda need a working implementation of a gun controller to hook into in the first place.

I tought maybe he can bypass it somehow like he did in the special rpcs3 build for dark escape and etc.

[ThatOneSeong]

Is there a way argon can make demulshooter work with the standalone version of "Time crisis 4" on rpcs3? its the best version cause you can disable the gun crosshair so its just like the arcade version.
in the razing storm collection version you cant.

That would require Guncon 3 support, which hasn't been implemented into RPCS3 yet, would it not? Kinda need a working implementation of a gun controller to hook into in the first place.

I tought maybe he can bypass it somehow like he did in the special rpcs3 build for dark escape and etc.

If "the special rpcs3 build" is Project : Omed or whatever, then he's using that fork's System 357 gun support that was integrated into it.
System 357 gun != Guncon 3, two completely different things and different implementations entirely.

[argonlefou]

On a technical point of view, it would depend on how the game is emulated with rpcs3

System 357 "gun" build is needed because game were not meant to be played with anything else.

I don't know at all if the original console game was only Guncon compatible or could be played with gamepads.
If the emulated game has gamepad support, or mouse support or whatever, this would be enough to control it with lightguns/demulshooter.

Now, for the realistic point of view, even if it's technically possible it's not a viable option because on top of hacking the game PPU cache (meaning differents hacks for different versions of the game, whereas arcade released ddumps are unique), the hack would target a specific version or rpcs3 exe .....which is updated really often so it would be broken in a matter of days

So .... No, demulshooter won't do that anytime soon

[lllll44]

On a technical point of view, it would depend on how the game is emulated with rpcs3

System 357 "gun" build is needed because game were not meant to be played with anything else.

I don't know at all if the original console game was only Guncon compatible or could be played with gamepads.
If the emulated game has gamepad support, or mouse support or whatever, this would be enough to control it with lightguns/demulshooter.

Now, for the realistic point of view, even if it's technically possible it's not a viable option because on top of hacking the game PPU cache (meaning differents hacks for different versions of the game, whereas arcade released ddumps are unique), the hack would target a specific version or rpcs3 exe .....which is updated really often so it would be broken in a matter of days

So .... No, demulshooter won't do that anytime soon

hi argon, thanks for answering...
1: the standalon version does support dualshock controller as far as i know.
2. there is an easy solution to this for the rpcs3 update thing...time crisis 4 already work very well on rpcs3, so you could just work on one specific version of rpcs3 for it, and we just wont update it:)

[ThatOneSeong]

2. there is an easy solution to this for the rpcs3 update thing...time crisis 4 already work very well on rpcs3, so you could just work on one specific version of rpcs3 for it, and we just wont update it:)

Um, ackshually...
Also good luck telling people to use only one version on a constantly rolling release emulator where the releases page is longer than the friggin bible at this point.

[lllll44]

The specific version can easily be uploaded and be share for all on demulshooter wiki page + sinden page and etc.

[argonlefou]

No, because I will be the one getting messages like "it's not working", "please add support for this new version", etc, etc....

Again, RPCS3 devs are the best people to ask for.
It's their program, and they are the only ones who can solve this in a viable-constantly working way

[lllll44]

No, because I will be the one getting messages like "it's not working", "please add support for this new version", etc, etc....

Again, RPCS3 devs are the best people to ask for.
It's their program, and they are the only ones who can solve this in a viable-constantly working way

thanks argon...rpcs3 devs dont care for guncon 3...many like me asked them about it.

[ThatOneSeong]

thanks argon...rpcs3 devs dont care for guncon 3...many like me asked them about it.

It is open source software. You are free to submit a pull request.

[_Gioacchino_]

Hi everyone!

- Last release of Demulshotter

- Last Release of CxBx Reloaded

Everythig works ok, but when i use a double gun4air aiming/pointing getting very confusing ahahahah. How can i fix it?

Inviato dal mio RMX2170 utilizzando Tapatalk

[gamejoyarcade]

hello, I hope argonlefou TP releases a new update for Jurassic Park.

[argonlefou]

Game is Patreon only for now, which I'm not.
You'll have to wait untill it goes public.

[gstav]

I would gladly help to chip in for a TP license for argonlefou,
Do you have like a beer me button or something?
Wouldn't cost us anything if we did it togheter, right guys 

[cangarujack]

  gstav

[POPO69]

hello, possible for someone to give me the good config of the loader RH for Gundam zeon game please? I want to play with 2 Players. Actually the game with TP no have FFB....tks!

[argonlefou]

hello, possible for someone to give me the good config of the loader RH for Gundam zeon game please? I want to play with 2 Players. Actually the game with TP no have FFB....tks!

No need to use GameLoaderAllRH, it will do more harm than good.
Just add the following custom resolution to your graphic card/windows : 1280x480 , and run the dual screen exe

I would gladly help to chip in for a TP license for argonlefou,
Do you have like a beer me button or something?
Wouldn't cost us anything if we did it togheter, right guys 

I don't have a beer button 
I'm not comfortable with people giving money, and I'm not really ..... "supporting" the use of patreon for that kind of thing, on top of that

[baritonomarchetto]

The good, old school, people ... 

[argonlefou]

Well....thanks to a very generous member who wanted to send me a code....here's the requested update :

DemulShooter v11.5

- Added outputs support for "Jurassic Parc" with TeknoParrot (DemulShooter.exe)
- Added "-nocrosshair" command for Jurassic Park (TeknoParrot)

Download here : https://github.com/argonlefou/DemulShooter/releases/tag/v11.5
Instructions here : https://github.com/argonlefou/DemulShooter/wiki/Lindbergh#jurassic-park

I'll now have some time to check few patreon games I didn't before (like HOD4 Ex, etc....), and see if something can be done with them

Thanks again 

[cangarujack]

THANKS ARGON!

[gamejoyarcade]

Thank you argonlefou 

[sushko]

tomb raider running just exe with demulshooter. I have 2 guns working but player 2 gun shoots both guns. player one is working fine. any fix for this

[sushko]

Also is there a way to remap the start buttons.

[ThatOneSeong]

Also is there a way to remap the start buttons.

As far as I'm aware DemulShooter only handles mouse inputs (except for games that can/does use more than three buttons)--start and select buttons would be up to either the loader or emulator in question.

[hyo2012]

Argon, Thanks for update.

And is there a way to remove reticle in Alien Armageddon?

Terminator Salvation can remove reticle via test menu, but Alien can't.