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Re: MKX Dedicated CAB - CNC Design stage
« Reply #40 on: October 23, 2015, 09:13:25 am »
I'm sure you've caught it already, but the first cut sheet says komtat.
I do not know if this has any bearing on your actual cutting files, but just in case......

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Re: MKX Dedicated CAB - CNC Design stage
« Reply #41 on: October 23, 2015, 09:42:03 am »
LOL, no those are place holders, you cant' cut out the "O" or the "A" so that idea was shot.

The letters will be removed, and that will remain is a the cutout to expose the Lettering that will be done in photoshop.
   

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Re: MKX Dedicated CAB - CNC Design stage
« Reply #42 on: October 23, 2015, 12:42:58 pm »
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Re: MKX Dedicated CAB - CNC Design stage
« Reply #43 on: October 23, 2015, 12:48:24 pm »
LOL, no those are place holders, you cant' cut out the "O" or the "A" so that idea was shot.

The letters will be removed, and that will remain is a the cutout to expose the Lettering that will be done in photoshop.
If you're back lighting with plexi, you can cut the O & A and attach them with adhesive. I did that with my custom change machine pedestal..
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Re: MKX Dedicated CAB - CNC Design stage
« Reply #44 on: October 23, 2015, 12:59:48 pm »
Need a visual man, i was thinking cutouts,  i thing your talking about 3d letters.  You think that would look right..

I was going with double printed movie marquee material....really sharp and deep blacks

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Re: MKX Dedicated CAB - CNC Design stage
« Reply #45 on: October 23, 2015, 03:17:39 pm »
Yep, I did the same with bartop shown above.

I use a .5" clearing bit, then follow with a .125 end mill to sharpen the corners.  Makes perfect pockets, you can can also use a small allowance offset to make the pockets a tad bit larger so that your pieces can fit nicely into the pockets.

Take a look at the side profile pieces.



I was also able to source, 1/2", 5/8", and 3/4" mdf core black melamine.  So once its cut, it'll be ready for assembly and side art, no painting...woohoo

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Like the idea's , I wish id had a CNC cutter or at least knew someone who could do it. Makes me want to gut my whole mk bartop and start over lol! If your still around since your local when I start on a new build I might have to get with you to go over some stuff. Of course ill buy some beer and wings for you time  :cheers:

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Re: MKX Dedicated CAB - CNC Design stage
« Reply #46 on: October 23, 2015, 03:19:09 pm »
Sure thing  :cheers:
   

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Re: MKX Dedicated CAB - CNC Design stage
« Reply #47 on: October 24, 2015, 05:26:23 pm »
Updated the front panel today, went to a halloween store and saw this and an idea popped in my head.



I'm gonna wait till after hallwoeen so i can pick up this light for 50% off.  The idea is to have this shining behind the dragon and the X only.



So here is what the updated front panel will look like.



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Re: MKX Dedicated CAB - CNC Design stage
« Reply #48 on: October 24, 2015, 06:21:05 pm »
That sounds like it'll look awesome!

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Re: MKX Dedicated CAB - CNC Design stage
« Reply #49 on: October 25, 2015, 07:15:38 am »
Updated the front panel today, went to a halloween store and saw this and an idea popped in my head.



I'm gonna wait till after hallwoeen so i can pick up this light for 50% off.  The idea is to have this shining behind the dragon and the X only.



So here is what the updated front panel will look like.





I shyte you not.... my kids grandma just bought them 2 of these, one stopped spinning on the inside...I had it pointing out of one of the vent holes in my cab. Looked cool like a trippy disco light but unfortunately it crapped out after being on only an hour.
Maybe we just got a bunk one  :dunno

I got a 12v led ghost projector of the mk logo.... looks really awesome and was going to project it behind the cab or on ceiling but its kind of dim and washed out by button leds. It looked good before I had my cp wired and lit up  :angry:
Lol.
I plan on disecting it and trying to run a cree led in it but hadnt had the time.

That globe light tho puts out some light and the projected mk logo should look sweet solong as the spinning mechanism doesnt burn out like mine did.

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Re: MKX Dedicated CAB - CNC Design stage
« Reply #50 on: November 03, 2015, 02:31:37 pm »
Picked this up brand new for $80.00 off craigslist, NIB, owner bought it and never used it.   :applaud:  Finish HIM on another level



Picked up the fire lights at 50% off at spirit halloween.

Also purchased the PC components to play the game at full resolution.

PC mainly cause i want a custom bootscreen and custom intros, paid more than a PS4 but, gives me more flexibility.

For those interested this is what i came up with after alot of research, came out to be around 750.00 with rebates.



 



   

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Re: MKX Dedicated CAB - CNC Design stage
« Reply #51 on: November 24, 2015, 08:34:59 pm »
Got a piece of transparent white plexi for the dragon background.



Coupled with the fire and Ice led behind it and got this.  This is what will show behind the dragon logo at the base of the machine.



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Control panel mockup, using KADES as the encoder, works really well, happy with the 8 button layout.



Got the computer built and MKX Loaded to current 10-27 updates.





Windows is completely hidden upon boot and shutdown, game runs really well at 60 FPS.

The only issue i'm having now is the refresh rate the TV is only 60 and I need 120 to clear the slight blur i get when running across the screen.

Design is almost complete. A few tweaks are needed and i'll be ready to cut.



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Re: MKX Dedicated CAB - CNC Design stage
« Reply #52 on: November 24, 2015, 09:58:37 pm »
Looks like a cool lighting effect.

Are you still going to just cut the "Mortal Kombat" in releief? Then what? Paint em black and but in LED strips?

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Re: MKX Dedicated CAB - CNC Design stage
« Reply #53 on: November 24, 2015, 10:38:16 pm »
Mortal Kombat wont be a cutout,  I'm thinking of just having it printed and covered with plexi........white background with black letters.  Those are actually just cutout with rebates so the plexi just lay in those rebates..

The Fire effect behind the dragon is pretty sharp....
   

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Re: MKX Dedicated CAB - CNC Design stage
« Reply #54 on: November 24, 2015, 10:49:05 pm »
No argument out of me on it being sharp....

Why not let it stand on its own and have the Mortal Kombat on the added into the sideart? Just a thought.

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Re: MKX Dedicated CAB - CNC Design stage
« Reply #55 on: November 24, 2015, 11:19:54 pm »
hmmm, you have good point, i'm still struggling with the side art and the marquee.  I was trying to incorporate the entire title with the Mortal Kombat on each side.

I suck at sketchup and or solidworks so i cant render it up like i want to..
   

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Re: MKX Dedicated CAB - CNC Design stage
« Reply #56 on: November 25, 2015, 05:09:36 am »
looking good. i used that same motherboard in my main gaming rig.
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Re: MKX Dedicated CAB - CNC Design stage
« Reply #57 on: December 01, 2015, 05:56:13 pm »
Design stage is just about done......Need some suggestion on speaker placement.



Ok so this thing will have a 5.1 speaker system.

I was gonna put 2 in the bezel, and  :banghead: cant do that will be covered by glass.  1 day glass can drill holes in the glass, but not sure that would look right.

The other option is put 2 in the CP, but then that throws away the plexi idea.

The last option is to place them above the Mortal and Kombat.........

Thought, ideas suggestions?

   

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Re: MKX Dedicated CAB - CNC Design stage almost complete 12-1-2015
« Reply #58 on: December 01, 2015, 06:40:42 pm »
How about cutting out the 'MORTAL' and 'KOMBAT' letters, putting some black metal mesh behind them and putting the speakers behind the 'O's ? The parts of the letters that would get lost (the inside of the O, the R, the A and the B) could be glued or double-taped to the mesh so that they look correct.
                  

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Re: MKX Dedicated CAB - CNC Design stage almost complete 12-1-2015
« Reply #59 on: December 01, 2015, 06:43:59 pm »
Could you hide a low-profile sound bar under the CP? 

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Re: MKX Dedicated CAB - CNC Design stage almost complete 12-1-2015
« Reply #60 on: December 01, 2015, 07:08:06 pm »
Isn't 5.1 overkill?  The purpose of 5.1 is to have sound BEHIND you. However, 2.1 is perfect for arcade machines (and way cheaper)
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Re: MKX Dedicated CAB - CNC Design stage almost complete 12-1-2015
« Reply #61 on: December 01, 2015, 08:07:12 pm »
I agree about the 5.1
It just makes no sense here.

If you insist though, I'd fire them out the top of the cab aimed toward the wall/ceiling behind it, maybe even angled toward the sides if you go to the trouble of angling the speakers rather than have them flat against that panel on the cab.
The rear speakers usually play atmospheric background stuff that supposed to envelope you.
Bouncing it off the walls behind and above the cab would probably accomplish that more than firing them into your genitals.

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« Reply #62 on: December 01, 2015, 08:13:30 pm »
I imagine the client is insisting on the 5.1.

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« Reply #63 on: December 01, 2015, 08:51:06 pm »
Just pay some dudes to stand behind you with the extra speakers...

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« Reply #64 on: December 01, 2015, 09:48:05 pm »
How about cutting out the 'MORTAL' and 'KOMBAT' letters, putting some black metal mesh behind them and putting the speakers behind the 'O's ? The parts of the letters that would get lost (the inside of the O, the R, the A and the B) could be glued or double-taped to the mesh so that they look correct.
The mortal kombat is going to be backlit.... not individual cutouts..

Could you hide a low-profile sound bar under the CP? 

The sound system has already been purchased, this was only $80.00



Isn't 5.1 overkill?  The purpose of 5.1 is to have sound BEHIND you. However, 2.1 is perfect for arcade machines (and way cheaper)

See above, i agree 2.1 is the standard, but i got that brand new for cheap, and it thumps.  It had a 3d power mode, if you want to stack the front and back speakers on top of each other.  The experimental setup with all 5 speakers in front of me sounds really good with a 3d / surround effect similar to dynamic sound mode on newer TV's.

I agree about the 5.1
It just makes no sense here.

If you insist though, I'd fire them out the top of the cab aimed toward the wall/ceiling behind it, maybe even angled toward the sides if you go to the trouble of angling the speakers rather than have them flat against that panel on the cab.
The rear speakers usually play atmospheric background stuff that supposed to envelope you.
Bouncing it off the walls behind and above the cab would probably accomplish that more than firing them into your genitals.

I agree once again its not needed, just got a great deal, so now I have to figure out a way not to waste $80.00.  I have mini cab with the speakers at the top and for for some reason it just doesn't sound very good.  I like the logic, but that would mean all 5 speakers would sit all grouped together in the marquee.

I imagine the client is insisting on the 5.1.

Yes sir, yes i am..... :applaud:

Just pay some dudes to stand behind you with the extra speakers...



I like this idea the best, i'm getting Radio Raheem though.....with some muh fuhnn mooosarella

Nobody likes the CP idea huh, deep rebate with steel mesh, no plexi?








   

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« Reply #65 on: December 02, 2015, 12:36:02 am »
my question is why 8 buttons? MKX only requires 5 to play. also am i the only one who noticed the sticks on the MKX cabinet given away to the winner of the tourny is set for a left hand player. speakers almost look small enough to where you could put them all below the marquee in there normal spot. if not i would put the center and two front speakers there and put the two surround speakers below the CP
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« Reply #66 on: December 02, 2015, 12:55:40 am »
Just pay some dudes to stand behind you with the extra speakers...



I like this idea the best, i'm getting Radio Raheem though.....with some muh fuhnn mooosarella

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« Reply #67 on: December 02, 2015, 08:49:47 am »

I imagine the client is insisting on the 5.1.

Yes sir, yes i am..... :applaud:

Nobody likes the CP idea huh, deep rebate with steel mesh, no plexi?

I must have missed that this was your personal cabinet.  I thought it was another commission and the question of "why" was moot.  In that case I agree that 5.1 is overkill.  Having said that if you are really wanting a wall of sound I do like the idea of putting some speakers in the CP.  That would get a lot of sound coming right at you.

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« Reply #68 on: December 02, 2015, 09:09:54 am »
How about not having the bezel glass extend all the way down to the CP?
Have a separate speaker panel with instruction card under plexi in between the speakers.

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« Reply #69 on: December 02, 2015, 09:29:58 am »
my question is why 8 buttons? MKX only requires 5 to play. also am i the only one who noticed the sticks on the MKX cabinet given away to the winner of the tourny is set for a left hand player. speakers almost look small enough to where you could put them all below the marquee in there normal spot. if not i would put the center and two front speakers there and put the two surround speakers below the CP

There have been other discussions about 8 buttons, and i'll leave it with this comment.  If you or anyone else played with 5 buttons vs. 8 buttons on an MKX arcade, you would lose 99% of the time the 1% of victories would be due to hell freezing over.  The 8 buttons are so i dont have to contort my fingers the press multibutton combinations to pull off a simple move.  If you've played the game seriously you know what im talking about.

Go look at any pro-stick for this game, it will not just have 5 buttons.  The console stick uses 8, and my demo CP has 8 and it plays identical to the PS4 and console sticks, thats what im looking for.

I noticed that too about the tourney sticks, i'm left handed, and I cant play like that, very odd.

They aren't that small they all won't fit in that space, they need some sort of seperation.  You mean in the CP firing up or down?


I imagine the client is insisting on the 5.1.

Yes sir, yes i am..... :applaud:

Nobody likes the CP idea huh, deep rebate with steel mesh, no plexi?

I must have missed that this was your personal cabinet.  I thought it was another commission and the question of "why" was moot.  In that case I agree that 5.1 is overkill.  Having said that if you are really wanting a wall of sound I do like the idea of putting some speakers in the CP.  That would get a lot of sound coming right at you.

I guess i am a sound freak, i couldnt find a good 2.1 setup for less than 100.00 or so that didnt sound like ass.  It was either crappy bass or the speakers sound like an AM radio.

Keep in mind Blacks Magic has  $3000 car stereo in it (repurposed from my younger days), but that doubles as jukebox too.  I tried out 4 different 2.1 setups and took them all back.  This is a fun build, plus i really like the game.

So the goal isnt to stay withing kill or over kill specs, this is a not the norm build i agree.

I think i'm going with the CP speakers fellas, i did a mock-up last night and it looked ok....

This is the look i'm going for from Martijn pinball build.

   

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« Reply #70 on: December 02, 2015, 09:35:34 am »
How about not having the bezel glass extend all the way down to the CP?
Have a separate speaker panel with instruction card under plexi in between the speakers.

What would hold the glass up and how would you terminate the bottom of the glass.

I had an admin panel on Black's and could never figure out how to get the glass to stay in place with a U channel.
   

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« Reply #71 on: December 02, 2015, 10:31:27 am »
This is pretty cool! It always amazes me the way people come up with new stuff. The Halloween lights for the flame behind the dragon is genius!
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« Reply #72 on: December 02, 2015, 10:36:35 am »
This is pretty cool! It always amazes me the way people come up with new stuff. The Halloween lights for the flame behind the dragon is genius!

Thanks man!!!!!!  Hopefully the outcome will match the vision.

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« Reply #73 on: December 02, 2015, 10:41:48 am »
How about not having the bezel glass extend all the way down to the CP?
Have a separate speaker panel with instruction card under plexi in between the speakers.

What would hold the glass up and how would you terminate the bottom of the glass.

I had an admin panel on Black's and could never figure out how to get the glass to stay in place with a U channel.

On the top of the bezel area leave extra room so the glass can be slid up high enough to clear the front of the channel, then the bottom can be swung in and drop down into the channel.  The monitor bezel goes in my cab this way.  If the cab were turned upside down it would fall out, but that's not going to happen.  I'd remove the bezel glass if I needed to transport the cab horizontally.

Since this would be in the middle instead of at the bottom, I'd want something pretty narrow.  I'd probably use 1/4"-1/2" L channel.  If you want to get picky have some type of adjustable strip behind it so the glass could be put in and then the adjuster pushed forward so the glass is tight against the L channel not leaving any gap.  I'd probably just use scrap mdf for the adjustable strip.

It would look best if it were just sitting on a ledge and the front was flush with the panel below.  But then you'd have to do something weird like suction cups or magnets though to ensure it wouldn't bounce forward off the ledge.




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« Reply #74 on: December 02, 2015, 10:45:35 am »
How about not having the bezel glass extend all the way down to the CP?
Have a separate speaker panel with instruction card under plexi in between the speakers.

What would hold the glass up and how would you terminate the bottom of the glass.

I had an admin panel on Black's and could never figure out how to get the glass to stay in place with a U channel.

On the top of the bezel area leave extra room so the glass can be slid up high enough to clear the front of the channel, then the bottom can be swung in and drop down into the channel.  The monitor bezel goes in my cab this way.  If the cab were turned upside down it would fall out, but that's not going to happen.  I'd remove the bezel glass if I needed to transport the cab horizontally.

Since this would be in the middle instead of at the bottom, I'd want something pretty narrow.  I'd probably use 1/4"-1/2" L channel.  If you want to get picky have some type of adjustable strip behind it so the glass could be put in and then the adjuster pushed forward so the glass is tight against the L channel not leaving any gap.  I'd probably just use scrap mdf for the adjustable strip.

It would look best if it were just sitting on a ledge and the front was flush with the panel below.  But then you'd have to do something weird like suction cups or magnets though to ensure it wouldn't bounce forward off the ledge.


Food for thought TY sir   :cheers:
   

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« Reply #75 on: December 02, 2015, 10:46:35 am »
You're welcome, but browsing through your Black's Magic build to refresh my memory....what you have done there looks right to me.

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« Reply #76 on: December 02, 2015, 11:00:00 am »
You're welcome, but browsing through your Black's Magic build to refresh my memory....what you have done there looks right to me.

Yeah but the glass keeps pushing back leaving a front gap

I'd probably have to look into something similar to the viewlix speaker placement design, not sure how clean that would look though.



The speaker in teh CP might be the be route to go, as there will be alot of blank real estate with just p1 p2 controls and the 2 starts.
   

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« Reply #78 on: December 02, 2015, 11:38:20 am »
This is pretty cool! It always amazes me the way people come up with new stuff. The Halloween lights for the flame behind the dragon is genius!

Thanks man!!!!!!  Hopefully the outcome will match the vision.

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« Reply #79 on: December 02, 2015, 11:45:30 am »
This is pretty cool! It always amazes me the way people come up with new stuff. The Halloween lights for the flame behind the dragon is genius!

Thanks man!!!!!!  Hopefully the outcome will match the vision.

Its going in the Dave and Buster's room   >:D  Shout out to the homie Paul, myyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy "you know what time it is"

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