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Re: The Grid....
« Reply #440 on: December 03, 2019, 09:07:22 am »
You know it's funny, I never thought of the box as being creative I just drew in Sketchup what I thought would functionally work, and largely copied what I saw in Nintendo cabs, but hey cheers  :cheers:

Now there is some fine woodworking :)

I've got a good teacher  ;)

I also just reread your rotating monitor tutorial and I'm getting excited to see the finished product.

At this point just seeing it IRL is keeping me going, I've been carrying around this image in my head way too long, I want to be able to point to it rather than explain it, ya know?

I always have a thin layer of coins to the bottom of the my coin box in my DK so when the quarter/token drops it makes the right sound.

Wife said the exact same thing when I showed her, "sounds kinda hollow".   :lol

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Re: The Grid....
« Reply #441 on: December 03, 2019, 09:18:23 am »
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Re: The Grid....
« Reply #442 on: December 03, 2019, 09:18:54 am »
I always have a thin layer of coins to the bottom of the my coin box in my DK so when the quarter/token drops it makes the right sound.

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Wife said the exact same thing when I showed her, "sounds kinda hollow".   :lol

Yea - I did this too..    I got  "Very nice sweetie.."  hours of work and pride..  then a little pat on the head..    very similar to..  "the lawn looks nice.."
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Re: The Grid....
« Reply #443 on: December 03, 2019, 10:09:11 am »
I always have a thin layer of coins to the bottom of the my coin box in my DK so when the quarter/token drops it makes the right sound.

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Wife said the exact same thing when I showed her, "sounds kinda hollow".   :lol

Yea - I did this too..    I got  "Very nice sweetie.."  hours of work and pride..  then a little pat on the head..    very similar to..  "the lawn looks nice.."

I got a "your arcade cabinets are just fine" after I told her the turkey "tasted fine" on Thanksgiving.  Ouch.

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Re: The Grid....
« Reply #444 on: December 03, 2019, 11:02:16 am »
You know it's funny, I never thought of the box as being creative I just drew in Sketchup what I thought would functionally work, and largely copied what I saw in Nintendo cabs, but hey cheers  :cheers:

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Probably partially because I haven't tackled that part yet, and am also missing a coin box. So I took even more notice.

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Re: The Grid....
« Reply #445 on: January 04, 2020, 02:31:14 pm »
This build is looking really sick!  I love the Tron look and how you are going out of your way to capture that glowing digital theme.  For what it's worth I thought your original artwork attempt looked pretty good too.  Your 3D design work is great with all the detail.  The only food for thought I could offer you at this time is the placement of the Tron stick on the CP.

I debated this one for a while on my build design too.  What I don't like is that it's really tall and way too close to the screen.  This obscures the screen which bothers me.  From any reasonable distance it's a big obstruction but even up close playing it will get in the way.  If you look at the original Tron cab, the bezel was fairly high from the CP up to where the actual screen started.  That plus the angle of the screen. and the fact that it was one player at a time cab design helped keep the stick from obscuring the screen for the player.

I would be bothered especially when trying to play other games since the vast majority won't utilize that stick.  This in part is why I decided to go with a mini grip stick to keep it shorter, and pushed it as far down the CP as I could so it won't obscure anything and even looks decent from a far.  You can probably still get it to work nicely with an authentic Tron stick if you play with the position and maybe raise the screen a bit.

Definitely following this thread for other ideas and wood working concepts!  Can't wait until you get to cabinet lighting as that's a big unknown for me.





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Re: The Grid....
« Reply #446 on: January 08, 2020, 01:42:51 am »
Jesus has it really been a month?  Time fly’s when you are constantly hosting people for 3 weeks straight, but hey that’s what it’s all about, drinking beers and playing games!

The only food for thought I could offer you at this time is the placement of the Tron stick on the CP.

Thanks for chiming in Vertexguy, it’s a good thought and one I grappled over for many an hour.  Ultimately I think it will be fine.  I used the Mannequins (Bi-pods?) to give me a sense of the perspective by taking advantage of SketchUp’s look around feature:



What I do is zoom inside the head of the Mannequin, and once I am at the eyes I hide it and look around from the fixed position to see if I notice any problems.  Works well for me, and yeah the Tron stick was a concern but it should be fine.  I guess you never truly know until you build it. :dunno:


I managed to take advantage of the time off and get a lot done.  Hopefully this isn’t too long of a post but I don’t want to miss documenting stuff, so here goes….

I needed to get over my fear of laminating things so I decided on a test piece:



I’d been using that board for all kinds of testing and it seemed a perfect fit to try this out. 

I had order a few rolls of 4’x8’ Matte black Vertical Grade Wilson Art laminate I bought at Cabinet parts.com.  This should be a perfect fit with the 3/4” plywood which is really closer to 0.72”.  When mated with the laminate on both sides it should make a near perfect 0.75” for the T-Molding.

Anyway:



White color pencil outline, and cut out with a straight edge and the laminate cutter that I referenced on post #154.  Also on Post #154 is a GREAT tutorial bay Szabo’s arcades on laminate application, everything you would hope to know.



Bought some 1” PVC pipe like suggested in the video and chopped it up with this hand saw from Home Depot into 4ft pieces.



Bought the contact cement and foam rollers from Amazon.




Applied cement, waited, and followed the application techniques called out in the video.  Trimmed with Router an flush trim bit to fit.

I wanted to test this test piece to see how various cutting methods would hold up in the laminate.
First was using the track saw cutting from the top laminate side:



This created some chipping (although mild, but still noticeable):



Tried flipping over the piece and this got better results (which makes sense since the blade would cut the laminate into the wood rather than pulling it up off the wood):



Better results:



Also wanted to test cutting lines with the saw and drilling, overall the laminate held up really well:



That’s that the track saw at 1/4” depth and a 6mm drill bit (supported by  previously drilled 6mm hole in plywood clamped above).

This gave me confidence to try it out on the actual pieces:



Used the previous router templates as guides for cutting and left a 1.5” fudge factor on the cutout when applying:







Pleased with the results after trimming with flush cut router:







Next was assembly.  As usual Bob was a big help pointing me in the right direction.  I needed to attach the big panel sides to the small box below.  Threaded insert seemed the way to go.  So as per his suggestion went with 1/4-20 screws and corresponding inserts (1/2” length).

These are designed to screw into the front of the panel (closest to the piece it will be attached to).  In my usual over engineering, and paranoia, I was concerned about this being strong enough (looking after testing it probably is, but I like to go overkill).  So I tried a few different ideas to attach from the back side, one of which was T-Nuts, which would probably work well, however they weren’t attached all that well to the wood, jus the spikes sticking in, and the screw would push them back out often.


So I came up with the idea to use the screw to pull in the threaded inserts from the back (they aren’t designed to do this, and if you pick them up you will know what I mean).  This way the more it gets screwed in the more it tightens into the wood (as they were designed to do from the other side).  Hard to explain but hopefully the vide helps:



I drilled a 3/8” forstner, then a 1/4” forstner, and then added a 1/2” forester on top to prevent the screw in from bending the wood in when it got sucked down.  Here’s the result:





Bob gave me the tip of using a wax toilet bowl ring to lubricate the inserts before screwing them in, and it definitely helped:



Applied this technique to the lower and upper half:







The washers around the screws above are called finish washers and they are awesome!









And in case there was any concern the Quality Control Crew is all over this build:

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Re: The Grid....
« Reply #447 on: January 08, 2020, 01:49:53 am »
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Re: The Grid....
« Reply #448 on: January 08, 2020, 10:55:50 am »
Fine work sir! 

Nice collection of tools and little helpers  :applaud:
Solid execution
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« Reply #449 on: January 08, 2020, 10:59:10 am »
His quality control experts are top notch. I have met them.

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Re: The Grid....
« Reply #450 on: January 08, 2020, 11:44:43 am »
Looks great Arroyo - you are really making progress now!

A tip with the lamination that has really helped me in the past is to cover all lines you want to cut with painter's tape before cutting.  This really reduces chipping. 

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Re: The Grid....
« Reply #451 on: January 09, 2020, 10:26:23 am »
:cheers:  feels like I can finally get moving on this thing now that it’s in one piece.  Thanks for the tip & the support guys.

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Re: The Grid....
« Reply #452 on: January 16, 2020, 10:55:11 am »


Nice work Arroyo!  I could make this picture the background on my phone.   :cheers: