Thanks for the fish LT!

[Generic Eric]

#2015yearoftheLTcabaret

And speaking of "the" Tully, where did all his posts go?

[Nephasth]

What's the point of this Eric? And what happened to LT?

[yotsuya]

Yeah, why so cryptic?

[Generic Eric]

What's the point of this Eric? And what happened to LT?

#2015nobartop #nobartops2015 didn't seem to pop anymore.

I have no idea what happened to LT's posts. It appears he pinballjim'd himself away a spell.  Hopefully its just a hiatus. 

[pbj]

Man, I hope he figured out how to automate that.  Deletion was a fairly easy macro process, you just had to build the command URLs and slam the forum with them.  Couple of spreadsheets and browser plug ins and you were good to go.

Zapped posts 100 at a time and I'm sure that was a pretty inefficient way to do it.  Manually editing 1,800 posts... eesh.



 

[Nephasth]

Looks like he (or someone) was at it for about 3 hours yesterday...

[Hoopz]

Someone contact Saint yet to see if he can restore em? 

[yotsuya]

His pedestal photo is gone, and that was off-site.

[Nephasth]

Sucks to see him go. Another one bites the dust.

[johnrt]

Man, this is sad! 

[yotsuya]

Yeah, something doesn't jibe here. I have his email address and sent him a message.

[wp34]

Wow.  I hope everything is okay.  He is a real good egg.

[Hoopz]

I PM'd Saint.

[yotsuya]

Man, I hope he figured out how to automate that.  Deletion was a fairly easy macro process, you just had to build the command URLs and slam the forum with them.  Couple of spreadsheets and browser plug ins and you were good to go.

Zapped posts 100 at a time and I'm sure that was a pretty inefficient way to do it.  Manually editing 1,800 posts... eesh.

So clue us in.......... why the hell DID you kill PinballJim? Mafia? Drugs?

[Nephasth]

New job. PinballJim lived in San Antonio. PBJ lives in Houston.

[yotsuya]

That's not sexy. There's got to be more to it.

[johnrt]

Wow.  I hope everything is okay.  He is a real good egg.

I agree. He has some kick ass ideas!

[yotsuya]

To me, LT was a great example of someone who really grew as a builder. I really hope everything is OK.

[Generic Eric]

To me, LT was a great example of someone who really grew as a builder. I really hope everything is OK.

+1

[stripe4]

I really hope everything is OK.

Going on a hiatus for whatever reason is one thing, but taking the effort to wipe all your posts?
LT built some really cool projects. That Mario Pedestal got my vote in the UCAs.

[johnrt]

That Mario Pedestal got my vote in the UCAs.

+1

[stripe4]

In all fairness, I think it's a good time to discuss whether forum members should be able to edit/delete their own posts after a certain amount of time has passed. I remember people compaining that some of PBJ's old posts were very informative, and it really sucked when they were deleted. Not sure how that discussion ended up.

The success of this community lies within sharing the stuff you come up with. I certainly learned a lot from others here, making booze from honey included. LT made some fresh stuff - those faux coin door plates with NovaGemCDR buttons were really cool alternative to a real coin door. A shame to see that info lost.

SMF (the forum software) has the necessary option "Maximum time after posting to allow edit", the question is whether it should be set. An hour should be enough even for X2 to spellcheck his walls of text.

I don't know what happens when a person decides to delete his/her account - are the posts wiped, too?

[Le Chuck]

@ Tully - please come back dude.  You're builds were great, your presence always added to the conversation, and I for one, thought you a really stand up guy.  If there is any external life stuff that prompted the purg I hope everything is okay and you get it worked through in due course.  Can't imagine it was forum internal but if it was I'm sorry we ran you off.   

[yotsuya]

I heard from Louis in real life. He just needs to take a break right now. He's asked that we respect the fact that he took his stuff down because its his information/ intellectual property , & I agree with him. My concern was that he was ok, and he is. I told him when he's ready to come back, we'll welcome him with open arms.

[Nephasth]

In all fairness, I think it's a good time to discuss whether forum members should be able to edit/delete their own posts after a certain amount of time has passed. I remember people compaining that some of PBJ's old posts were very informative, and it really sucked when they were deleted. Not sure how that discussion ended up.

The success of this community lies within sharing the stuff you come up with. I certainly learned a lot from others here, making booze from honey included. LT made some fresh stuff - those faux coin door plates with NovaGemCDR buttons were really cool alternative to a real coin door. A shame to see that info lost.

SMF (the forum software) has the necessary option "Maximum time after posting to allow edit", the question is whether it should be set. An hour should be enough even for X2 to spellcheck his walls of text.

I don't know what happens when a person decides to delete his/her account - are the posts wiped, too?

I can see both sides of the fence... But, better learn from what's up right now, never know if it'll be gone tomorrow... Good luck, LT. It was a fun ride.

[Generic Eric]

I heard from Louis in real life. He just needs to take a break right now. He's asked that we respect the fact that he took his stuff down because its his information/ intellectual property , & I agree with him. My concern was that he was ok, and he is. I told him when he's ready to come back, we'll welcome him with open arms.

I concur. 
Glad to hear he is safe.  Can't handle any real drama in my hobby. 

[johnrt]

I had just wrote that I have downloaded a copy of his Asteroids Deluxe build, offering to post the pics. I'm gonna keep that copy for myself. I respect his will. At the same time we have to ask ourselves: What are we gonna do with the pictures/ideas/builds on this site? Who's property are they? Can it be used commercially for example? Is a license agreement required for the builds from now on?

[Hoopz]

To answer a previous question, if an account is deleted their posts stay as does the user name.  There are plenty of those posts around now.  Tommy springs to mind.  WizardofDelRay or something like that was a fairly prevalent account that he deleted about ten years ago.  And everyone knows about Jimmy trying to flush his out.

[Hoopz]

I heard from Louis in real life. He just needs to take a break right now. He's asked that we respect the fact that he took his stuff down because its his information/ intellectual property , & I agree with him. My concern was that he was ok, and he is. I told him when he's ready to come back, we'll welcome him with open arms.

Great to hear.

[Rick]

This is really sad. While I certainly didn't post on every one of Louis Tully's builds, they were certainly ones I always read and looked forward to.

[horizon]

Interesting to proclaim intellectual property on the internet on a public server, hosting a public discussion board.  Intellectual property theft on the internet is really only illegal when someone else posts said property to the internet.  Im pretty sure, definitely not a lawyer, that that goes away when you dont take measures to make it intellectual property.

Kind of reminds me of a situation when a user PM'd selfies to an Admin of a forum and the Admin posted them to a thread.  All intents and purposes of private property are kind of done away with at that point.

If Saint locked down the edit feature, there really isnt much the poster could do, so much as I understand it, if they provide the content willingly.

 

Either way, dude was a pretty solid contributor to the site and it sucks that a wealth of knowledge, advice, and constructive criticism decided to remove it all from a public forum of his peers and friends.

[Generic Eric]

I'd like to ask those that want to debate how to exit a forum and whatever, to start a new thread, self moderate that out of this thread.

[Rick]

Intellectual property, similar to trademark law, can definitely be retroactively invoked. At least, that's how it works here in Canada. I'm pretty sure that most Admins would be pretty helpful if a user made a respectful request.

[Le Chuck]

I'd like to ask those that want to debate how to exit a forum and whatever, to start a new thread, self moderate that out of this thread.

Crap - shoulda read that before hitting the button

Edit - much truncated version to just voice my support of our man LT:
I believe we have a freedom to be forgotten.  I wish LT hadn't exercised his but I respect his right to do so.  Some people need a clean slate.  From what I've heard that's what was needed here.  I respect his right to get one. 

[Rick]

Hear, hear Le Chuck.

[wp34]

Thanks for letting us know.  I may go Dremel something to show my respect.

I heard from Louis in real life. He just needs to take a break right now. He's asked that we respect the fact that he took his stuff down because its his information/ intellectual property , & I agree with him. My concern was that he was ok, and he is. I told him when he's ready to come back, we'll welcome him with open arms.

[Generic Eric]

I'd like to ask those that want to debate how to exit a forum and whatever, to start a new thread, self moderate that out of this thread.

Crap - shoulda read that before hitting the button

Edit - much truncated version to just voice my support of our man LT:
I believe we have a freedom to be forgotten.  I wish LT hadn't exercised his but I respect his right to do so.  Some people need a clean slate.  From what I've heard that's what was needed here.  I respect his right to get one.

meh.  Now that we know he is ok, this post can be all about remembering LT.

But if you want to debate the appropriate way to disappear, or go on hiatus or take a sabbatical, let's do that in another thread.

[johnrt]

I'd like to ask those that want to debate how to exit a forum and whatever, to start a new thread, self moderate that out of this thread.

Crap - shoulda read that before hitting the button

Edit - much truncated version to just voice my support of our man LT:
I believe we have a freedom to be forgotten.  I wish LT hadn't exercised his but I respect his right to do so.  Some people need a clean slate.  From what I've heard that's what was needed here.  I respect his right to get one.

Somehow I don't agree. You post pictures, ideas and get feedback from other users and then decide on the final build. Is that build exclusively yours? With that in mind, can you demand total deletion of everything you've ever written on a public forum?

I have way too much respect for LT's work to question his decision to delete everything he has ever posted. But is it right? I don't know...

[yotsuya]

But if you want to debate the appropriate way to disappear, or go on hiatus or take a sabbatical, let's do that in another thread.

Actually, I think this thread is the PERFECT place to have that discussion.

Somehow I don't agree. You post pictures, ideas and get feedback from other users and then decide on the final build. Is that build exclusively yours? With that in mind, can you demand total deletion of everything you've ever written on a public forum?

I have way too much respect for LT's work to question his decision to delete everything he has ever posted. But is it right? I don't know...

They're his photos and his words and he made the decision to share them with us. If he doesn't want to share them anymore, so be it. We've learned enough from him to run with his ideas, and for that we're grateful. But we should respect his wishes in this matter.

[Le Chuck]

Conversation pro/con deleting your shiz can be moved to here: http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php/topic,143911.0.html but doesn't have to be. 

That way the LT thread can just stay about well wishes to LT as OP asked - or not.  Whatevers .