outrun 2006 white screen freeze after logos?

[Chris2]

Hi all.

I just set up my great new gaming PC and I want to play some Outrun 2006, one of my favorite arcade racers.

I have the game on my computer, but when I run it, it goes through the logos at the start of the game, but rather than go to the title screen/menu/etc. it stops at a white screen and won't go forward. It essentially freezes at this point and I have to close the game.

Can anyone shed some light on how to fix this problem?

[MrThunderwing]

Have you tried all the standard stuff like making sure all your DirectX and graphics card drivers are up-to-date? If not I'd start there.

[Loafmeister]

Can't remember but I think there's a config.exe you should run first to ensure you set up your GPU options?

[Chris2]

Can't remember but I think there's a config.exe you should run first to ensure you set up your GPU options?

I tried running it and it says 'out of memory' and closes.

Have you tried all the standard stuff like making sure all your DirectX and graphics card drivers are up-to-date? If not I'd start there.

I haven't tried that yet, Ill do that now. Pretty sure they should be already done from installation, but I'll try it anyway.

[Chris2]

The program gives an additional error now that I've reinstalled nvidia drivers and run it in Windows XP compatibility mode: "InitlocalisedStrings failed in Cbadger 7Dlg::OnInitDialog"

After this is shows the same Out of Memory error and quits.

Running as Admin has no effect whatsoever.


One more thing, my new computer uses a GTX 970. I mention this because other things which have never before given me trouble are now doing so, notably media player classic (some videos are completely green and may not play at all) but also my Hori Pad EX2 Turbo (which works on every other PC I've ever tried, and other 360 pads work fine on this new computer). Maybe the GTX is doing something weird for Outrun as well.

[VirtuaIceMan]

This sounds odd, I did a quick test of Outrun 2006 on my GTX 980 on Win8.1 and it worked fine, not reinstalled it yet after installing hundreds of other games though.

Maybe a Windows update knobbled something? I do get issues with numerous games on mine, crashing randomly to desktop, but they tend to be late 90s-mid 2000s games like NFS Porsche and NFS Hot Pursuit 2, haven't yet debugged them, as some people with similar set up say they run fine.

Could be issue with Nvidia newer drivers, or some other drivers, or RAM?

[MrThunderwing]

I can confirm you don't need to play Outrun C2C in XP compatibility mode, it works fine on both of my Windows 7 PCs. Is your new PC a custom build from scratch or have you upgraded an existing PC? I've heard of people having all sorts of issues with new GPUs if you've still got remnants of the drivers from the old PC hanging around (if you've changed from an ATI card to NVIDIA for example). The fact the Outrun config won't load at all is very odd - have you tried re-installing the game itself?

Other things to think about: is there's some issue with the motherboard drivers and the GPU or is there maybe damage to the GPU affecting the video RAM? Is the GPU overheating? Have you got an adequate PSU?

You might find the following link useful: http://www.playtool.com/pages/artifacts/artifacts.html

[Chris2]

Reinstall did the trick. Config and everything worked fine. Odd thing but I'm happy to have it running. Looks great aside from the HUD elements being too low-resolution, but such is to be expected on high-res displays.

Either way, thanks for all of the help!

[Chris2]

For the sake of not making a new thread, can anyone identify the kind of wheel used in OutRun 2 arcade machines, and whether or not it's possible to use it on a PC? I have a logitech wheel that I use but it simply has too much turning resistance, and it doesn't feel true to the arcade wheel.

[MrThunderwing]

I'm not an authority on the subject or anything, but I'm pretty certain the steering wheel on an Outrun 2 arcade machine is a bit of custom made kit designed to be an integral part of the machine itself and isn't something you could just easily get your hands on like a PC steering wheel. The actual issue you're having though is to do with software rather than hardware, specifically the PC version of Outrun Coast 2 Coast has a much greater deadzone than the actual arcade versions of Outrun 2 and Outrun 2 SP. This means that even if you were able to get your hands on an actual OR2 arcade steering wheel and get it working on a PC it still wouldn't feel 100% like the arcade version unfortunately.

There are things you can do to try and make it more arcade like though with your current wheel. in the in game options try putting your X axis steering sensitivity right up to maximum. Try seeing if there's an option to increase the spring tension within the logitech profiler as well (I've got a Driving Force GT myself, but must admit I don't really play around with the options in the profiler that much, but I'm sure there's an option to do that). I seem to recall that Isamu who posts stuff here from time to time is a bit of an expert at this sort of stuff, so maybe he might be able to give you some more specific advice.

[Chris2]

Messing with Logitech's settings for the centering spring did the trick. Now I'm going on two issues, one seems easy enough but the other is puzzling. The first is that I'm not getting the sensitivity I need. I think I need to remove the deadzone on the steering wheel, but I can't seem to find a setting for this. Basically, the wheel isn't sensitive 'enough' compared to the arcade machine.

The bigger issue is that with my current settings, if I turn sharply, it goes that direction but then suddenly starts going the opposite direction and then proceeds to swing back and forth between going one direction and the other. Obviously this is very inhibiting to your play of OutRun 2, particularly when drifting comes into the equation. Any ideas on fixing that?

[BadMouth]

Reduce the deadzone to zero in Logitech profiler.

What Logitech wheel are you using?

If it's one of the models that rotate 900 degrees, reduce the rotation in Logitech profiler to 180-200 degrees.
On the console emulators or old PC games that were designed to be played with a thumbstick, I'll go as low as 150 degrees.

With the full 900 degrees of rotation, you are not going to be able to change direction as quickly as the game requires.

Remember to recalibrate the wheel in the game after changing the Logitech profiler settings.

[Howard_Casto]

I know this is resolved, but for the record 2k6 occasionally freezes at the title screen on me as well.  Of course I'm hacking it to bits, but still...  It's maybe 1 out of 100 times though.

[Chris2]

Reduce the deadzone to zero in Logitech profiler.

What Logitech wheel are you using?

If it's one of the models that rotate 900 degrees, reduce the rotation in Logitech profiler to 180-200 degrees.
On the console emulators or old PC games that were designed to be played with a thumbstick, I'll go as low as 150 degrees.

With the full 900 degrees of rotation, you are not going to be able to change direction as quickly as the game requires.

Remember to recalibrate the wheel in the game after changing the Logitech profiler settings.

I am using one of the 900 degree models (Driving Force GT). I can't find the deadzone setting in the profiler but I did everything else, including limiting the rotation. It's still off but I'm sure it will get better with deadzone control.

What's bothersome is that even with these settings I'm still getting the bizarre event of a hard turn all the way in one direction producing the desired input, then a sudden jerk in the opposite direction, and then continuing to go the desired direction. It ruins your ability to make hard turns or drift, which makes the game pretty much unplayable. I don't know why it started doing this, as I've used it before without this issue. Setting the wheel to defaults and recalibrating in-game doesn't seem to resolve the issue either.