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Re: Ultimarc Update
« Reply #40 on: January 27, 2015, 04:57:16 pm »
Andy,
Can we finally agree that it's the end of January and it's time to spill the beans!

Thank you
The impatient

+1   >:D

I'd really like to know more about the rotary upgrade.  How soon will it be available?

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Re: Ultimarc Update
« Reply #41 on: January 28, 2015, 02:56:50 pm »
Hey Andy,

Any word on the RGB illuminated handles for the ServoStik?  Been meaning to pick a few ServoStik's up as a Christmas present to myself, but I wanted to wait to do one big order and they've been out of stock for the last few weeks.  Happy holidays!

Yes these have been somewhat sporadic since we launched them. We have been awaiting supply of the 4-way jack connectors and these are due in from the manufacturers on 30 Dec, so we should have these quite soon after we reopen in Jan.

Hey Andy,

Just touching base on those RGB illuminated handles for the ServoStik... any word on when they will be back in stock?  Take my money haha!

So once again, we find that evil of the past seeps into the present like salad dressing through cheap wax paper, mixing memory and desire.

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Re: Ultimarc Update
« Reply #42 on: January 30, 2015, 11:28:34 am »
The long-awaited rotary joystick upgrade for Ultrastik 360, Servostik and J-Stik will be available in January.

Have a great 2015!

Andy
Woot! So, we will be able to order this today or tomorrow? ;)

I've been hassling Andy for a long time about this update, so, hopefully, it'll arrive very soon! Then I can disassemble and reassemble my control panel.

Looking forward to the word of an official release!

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Re: Ultimarc Update
« Reply #43 on: January 31, 2015, 04:32:23 pm »

The "productionizing" of the rotary upgrade was outsourced to the supplier of our Spintrak spinner and they have been unbelievably slow.

The first delivery of parts they sent, the cover for the encoder contacted the PCB mountings but a revised version of this part is on the way to us.

The RGB handles were awaiting 4-pole connectors which were out of stock at the suppliers but we now have everything so we will be assembling some of these this week.

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Re: Ultimarc Update
« Reply #44 on: January 31, 2015, 04:43:29 pm »
Thanks for the update Andy. 

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Re: Ultimarc Update
« Reply #45 on: January 31, 2015, 04:50:28 pm »
AWESOME. I've started a build and I'm holding out for these.
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Re: Ultimarc Update
« Reply #46 on: January 31, 2015, 05:00:32 pm »
Any updates on the Xinput adaptor for the IPAC2? I'd like to be able to play some Castle Crashers on the cab I'm about to build, and I'm waiting to pull the trigger on buying my controls until these come out.

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Re: Ultimarc Update
« Reply #47 on: February 01, 2015, 06:28:46 am »
Still no details about rotary upgrade for U360 ?

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Re: Ultimarc Update
« Reply #48 on: February 02, 2015, 09:50:42 am »
Any updates on the Xinput adaptor for the IPAC2? I'd like to be able to play some Castle Crashers on the cab I'm about to build, and I'm waiting to pull the trigger on buying my controls until these come out.

Yes these are ready now: www.ultimarc.com/console.html

I will get it added to the store tomorrow.

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Re: Ultimarc Update
« Reply #49 on: February 02, 2015, 11:03:45 am »
what about the light-gun holsters?
         

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Re: Ultimarc Update
« Reply #50 on: February 02, 2015, 04:50:20 pm »

The current firmware implements one game controller device on the board. It would technically be possible to implement  two game controllers. If there is a clear benefit I will do this in later firmware.


This would certainly be useful for those problematic games that want 1 controller per player, or games that don't let you remap the direction buttons.

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Re: Ultimarc Update
« Reply #51 on: February 03, 2015, 01:32:49 pm »
what about the light-gun holsters?

We had a consignment of these from Suzo-Happ but they didnt include the mounting nuts so we are now waiting for those. They are a weird thread otherwise it would not be an issue.

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Re: Ultimarc Update
« Reply #52 on: February 17, 2015, 05:20:38 pm »
My tax return is burning a hole through my keyboard... any ETA on when the RGB handles for the Servostik's will be ready to go?  Been wanting to buy the ServoStik's + RGB upgrade but want to do it all in one purchase!  Sorry to be a pest!

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Re: Ultimarc Update
« Reply #53 on: February 17, 2015, 05:22:34 pm »
I ordered UltraStiks today and would LOVE to have the RGB shafts too.
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Re: Ultimarc Update
« Reply #54 on: February 17, 2015, 06:00:50 pm »
Add me to the "omg do want" list for the rotary u360 upgrade!

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Re: Ultimarc Update
« Reply #55 on: February 17, 2015, 06:38:58 pm »
Add me to the "omg do want" list for the rotary u360 upgrade!

+2 on this end!

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Re: Ultimarc Update
« Reply #56 on: February 20, 2015, 05:43:33 pm »
Any update on the rotary upgrade Andy?


The "productionizing" of the rotary upgrade was outsourced to the supplier of our Spintrak spinner and they have been unbelievably slow.

The first delivery of parts they sent, the cover for the encoder contacted the PCB mountings but a revised version of this part is on the way to us.

The RGB handles were awaiting 4-pole connectors which were out of stock at the suppliers but we now have everything so we will be assembling some of these this week.

Andy


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Re: Ultimarc Update
« Reply #57 on: February 21, 2015, 03:43:34 am »
Any update on the rotary upgrade Andy?



Yes we now have all the parts for this. I will be working on pictures and instructions this weekend.

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Re: Ultimarc Update
« Reply #58 on: February 21, 2015, 11:26:42 am »
Awesome!  I need to place an order and have been waiting to see if this gets into my cart. 

Any update on the rotary upgrade Andy?



Yes we now have all the parts for this. I will be working on pictures and instructions this weekend.

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Re: Ultimarc Update
« Reply #59 on: February 22, 2015, 01:59:58 am »
Any update on the rotary upgrade Andy?



Yes we now have all the parts for this. I will be working on pictures and instructions this weekend.

Oh boy can't wait!  How about the classic rgb's, back in stock soon I hope.

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Re: Ultimarc Update
« Reply #60 on: February 26, 2015, 11:00:59 am »

The rotary upgrade is now available and listed in the store.

The RGB LEDs for Ultralux and ClassicRGB are currently in production but dont have an exact ETA on these yet.


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Re: Ultimarc Update
« Reply #61 on: February 26, 2015, 12:17:36 pm »
Andy,

I see the rotary upgrade doesn't work with the bat/oval topped 360's, presumably due to the shaft to support the rotary upgrade. Are you planning to offer a fully assembled oval topped 360 with rotary upgrade or a oval topped upgrade option?

I'm am/was really looking forward to this upgrade, but would very much like to have oval tops.

Thanks!

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Re: Ultimarc Update
« Reply #62 on: February 26, 2015, 12:19:50 pm »
Andy,

I see the rotary upgrade doesn't work with the bat/oval topped 360's, presumably due to the shaft to support the rotary upgrade. Are you planning to offer a fully assembled oval topped 360 with rotary upgrade or a oval topped upgrade option?

I'm am/was really looking forward to this upgrade, but would very much like to have oval tops.

Thanks!

I'm in the same boat.  Also I currently use the rounded restrictor.  Is there a reason for requiring the 4 or 8-way restrictor?

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Re: Ultimarc Update
« Reply #63 on: February 26, 2015, 01:45:31 pm »
Is it possible to order a new U360 with the rotary cabability and if so what is the cost?
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« Reply #64 on: February 26, 2015, 01:55:32 pm »
The round restrictor is fine.

We dont offer a fully assembled unit and its likely we will never offer this. What we will be doing is adding the connector to all new U360s so that a replacement PCB will not be needed.

There are not many "wasted" parts over and above ordering the long handle option (the rotary handles are long).
I will be changing over to using a nylon spacer to adapt the standard magnet holder to the rotary shaft which will also mean the original magnet holder wont be wasted either.

Oval tops will require another handle variant, with M10 thread and depending on demand I will look at this. We do have some oval tops with M6 thread which fit onto the ball top handles but only in red.

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Re: Ultimarc Update
« Reply #65 on: February 26, 2015, 04:18:51 pm »
Thanks for the update Andy.

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Re: Ultimarc Update
« Reply #66 on: February 26, 2015, 04:21:34 pm »
I just got my u360s a week ago. Do they have the connector on the PCB?


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Re: Ultimarc Update
« Reply #67 on: February 26, 2015, 04:59:23 pm »
I just got my u360s a week ago. Do they have the connector on the PCB?


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Re: Ultimarc Update
« Reply #68 on: February 26, 2015, 11:16:11 pm »
The rotary created lots of questions for me!
Let me understand this like so:

U360 Standard
Pros: Full (proper?) analog
Cons: Throw too long

U360 Bottom Restrictor
Pros: Shorter throw
Pros: Rotary option
Cons: limited analog

U360 Top restrictor
Pros: Full analog
Pros: Shorter throw
Cons: No Rotary option

Did I get this right? Or is there an option where I'll get: Full analog, short throw and rotary option?

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« Reply #69 on: February 27, 2015, 08:57:49 am »
The above is correct, its simply not possible to add the encoder with the large angular movement of the unrestricted stick.

The U360s currently shipping dont have the connector fitted yet. We are hand-soldering the connector onto the PCBs which are sent with the upgrade. The production PCBs will have the connector on the next batch and I will then amend the store listings to offer 2 different kits, one without the PCB.

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Re: Ultimarc Update
« Reply #70 on: February 27, 2015, 10:19:46 am »
Andy,

Do you have a time frame for the J-Stik upgrade kit?

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Re: Ultimarc Update
« Reply #71 on: February 27, 2015, 10:23:29 am »
Andy -

What thread size is the ball top shaft?  I'll need to switch to a white ball top if I want to go with the rotary upgrade.

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« Reply #72 on: February 27, 2015, 12:29:54 pm »
Andy -

What thread size is the ball top shaft?  I'll need to switch to a white ball top if I want to go with the rotary upgrade.

Its the standard M6 thread.

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Re: Ultimarc Update
« Reply #73 on: February 27, 2015, 01:32:44 pm »
When will the rotary upgrade kit for the ServoStik be available?

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Re: Ultimarc Update
« Reply #74 on: February 27, 2015, 04:40:29 pm »
If I install bottom restrictor, which games in Mame will suffer from that or will be unplayable at this point?

and

Can I play Geometry wars 3 on 2 joysticks with restrictors? How about one with restrictor and one without? How would that affect gameplay?
(I'm aware of push button issue with that setup)

Also

If I want to order Rotary setup by that I mean not just an upgrade but whole thing that's necessary (Joystick, restrictor, rotary attachment) What would be best to order to be most cost effective, what would be the final price?

Could you tell us about how the rotary feels like and plays comparing to a real rotary joystick?

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Re: Ultimarc Update
« Reply #75 on: March 01, 2015, 06:55:39 am »
If I install bottom restrictor, which games in Mame will suffer from that or will be unplayable at this point?

and

Can I play Geometry wars 3 on 2 joysticks with restrictors? How about one with restrictor and one without? How would that affect gameplay?
(I'm aware of push button issue with that setup)

Also

If I want to order Rotary setup by that I mean not just an upgrade but whole thing that's necessary (Joystick, restrictor, rotary attachment) What would be best to order to be most cost effective, what would be the final price?

Could you tell us about how the rotary feels like and plays comparing to a real rotary joystick?

99% of all Mame games were designed to be played with a joystick with a restrictor, ie 4-way or 8-way so there really isnt any issue there. There are very few analog games in Mame which require the full travel. In fact analog games can still be played even with the restrictor to some extent.

I cant answer the geometry Wars question unfortunately, I dont know this game.

There are 2 kinds of rotary joystick, the 12-position which has 12 detented positions when its turned, and the optical which has continuous rotation. This is the latter, but does not rule out playing the games which used the 12-position type. This stick has a far higher resolution than the original Happ optical stick but this can be reduced in Mame settings. The higher resolution means its more versatile and could be used for some games which originally used a spinner.

If you want to order everything it might be best to wait a week or so until we get a production run of U360 PCBs done with the connector for the encoder. Then you can order a lower-cost upgrade kit without a new PCB.

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Re: Ultimarc Update
« Reply #76 on: March 01, 2015, 06:57:55 am »
When will the rotary upgrade kit for the ServoStik be available?

What we need to do is produce the same encoder with a longer cable and a connector for plugging into a separate interface rather than the U360 PCB. The other parts will be the same.
The reason I have not already done this is because I am trying to beat up the encoder supplier into giving us a lower price. Negotiations are still ongoing :)

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Re: Ultimarc Update
« Reply #77 on: March 01, 2015, 07:56:10 pm »
Add me to the list of folks who need the rotary upgrade to support bat/oval tops.

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Re: Ultimarc Update
« Reply #78 on: March 01, 2015, 08:13:57 pm »
The U360s currently shipping dont have the connector fitted yet. We are hand-soldering the connector onto the PCBs which are sent with the upgrade. The production PCBs will have the connector on the next batch and I will then amend the store listings to offer 2 different kits, one without the PCB.

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Re: Ultimarc Update
« Reply #79 on: March 02, 2015, 09:01:56 pm »
No change in the number of inputs but now, all inputs can be configured as keyboard, mouse, gamepad button, volume up/down, sleep, wake, power. Macro capabilities are greatly expanded.
Hi Andy, just to confirm - If I purchase the new I-PAC 2 and 2 Xbox 360 console adapters:  The PC will think I'm connecting 2 Xbox 360 USB controllers into the computer and they would show up as Xbox 360 controllers in Windows (and the official MS drivers would work) correct?

In addition, any of those 32 inputs can be assigned to a keyboard function (for example - using the 4-way additional joystick on my panel to control the Hyperspin front end which DOES NOT support joysticks).  So essentially I'd have to subtract the keys assigned from the Xbox 360 inputs?  I apologize if I'm not making this sound clear.

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