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Namco is making a new Star Wars Machine
« on: October 07, 2014, 02:18:32 pm »
I didn't see it mentioned here yet, but new star wars cab in the works. I guess the unveiling is tomorrow.


http://www.polygon.com/2014/10/2/6888543/bandai-namco-unveiling-a-new-star-wars-arcade-machine-next-week


Bets on whether it will be awesome or blow chunks?

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Re: Namco is making a new Star Wars Machine
« Reply #1 on: October 07, 2014, 02:37:47 pm »
Initially it will be awesome, but then when the wedding night is over...people will realize it blows chunks.

it will start to be a rehash of the classic vector game, but will be done so poorly that you wonder why they'd tried at all. after the completion of the "classic" level you will be presented with a game of a different type. (side scroller or top down first person, what have you) where you will feel such a disconnect from the action that keeps changing you cease trying to play. (or you continue to play to see what other crap they came up with)

overall it will be a 4  out of 10 mainly due to hardcore star wars fans going ape ---steaming pile of meadow muffin--- for it, but everyone else seeing it for what it is...a lackluster follow up to an otherwise okay game.

timestamp for the future.

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Re: Namco is making a new Star Wars Machine
« Reply #2 on: October 07, 2014, 02:45:14 pm »
I'll never see one in person, much less ever play it, so I guess it doesn't matter either way.


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Re: Namco is making a new Star Wars Machine
« Reply #3 on: October 07, 2014, 02:59:16 pm »
I personally think if they do anything but a strict dog fighting game, it will be mediocre at best. There are numerous linkable racing cabs, I would love to see a linkable x-wing vs tie fighter machine. Allow co-op missions where you are on the same squadron, or do head to head combat with the other player.

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Re: Namco is making a new Star Wars Machine
« Reply #4 on: October 07, 2014, 03:00:50 pm »
I really liked the 90's Arcade game, but I have to admit to never seeing nevertheless playing an 1983 Star Wars Arcade machine. I am quite curious to what this will be.

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Re: Namco is making a new Star Wars Machine
« Reply #5 on: October 07, 2014, 04:41:53 pm »
It will be more like a kiddie ride that stops every couple minutes until you insert a dollar to continue.
The skill of the person on the kiddie ride will not be relevant.

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Re: Namco is making a new Star Wars Machine
« Reply #6 on: October 07, 2014, 05:08:20 pm »
Rumors are that it is based on Mach Storm, so probably an x wing simulation on a big dome screen

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Re: Namco is making a new Star Wars Machine
« Reply #7 on: October 07, 2014, 06:39:48 pm »
It will be more like a kiddie ride that stops every couple minutes until you insert a dollar to continue.

This is a branded machine... it'll take BILLS!

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Re: Namco is making a new Star Wars Machine
« Reply #8 on: October 08, 2014, 01:49:50 am »
It will be more like a kiddie ride that stops every couple minutes until you insert a dollar to continue.

This is a branded machine... it'll take BILLS!

None of my children are named BILL. If I want to play this game will I have to change the name of all my kids or will they accept other children?

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Re: Namco is making a new Star Wars Machine
« Reply #9 on: October 08, 2014, 02:36:44 am »
If they fit in the slot I think it's all good.

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Re: Namco is making a new Star Wars Machine
« Reply #10 on: October 08, 2014, 03:05:46 am »
It will be more like a kiddie ride that stops every couple minutes until you insert a dollar to continue.
This is a branded machine... it'll take BILLS!
None of my children are named BILL. If I want to play this game will I have to change the name of all my kids or will they accept other children?
The mechs are adjustable and swappable (to accept different species) as shown n these pics by BEGINSTUDIO and Generic Eric.   ::)

 


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Re: Namco is making a new Star Wars Machine
« Reply #11 on: October 08, 2014, 02:57:24 pm »
It will be more like a kiddie ride that stops every couple minutes until you insert a dollar to continue.
The skill of the person on the kiddie ride will not be relevant.

My thoughts exactly.  That late 90's "Star Wars Trilogy" game was like this.  There is no technique or skill involved; it's just "ooo, aaah, cool Star Wars graphics and sounds!"  Take away those things and there is absolutely nothing left.  Nowadays, those graphics aren't even impressive anymore, so that "game" is completely worthless in my opinion. 

A few weeks ago I played this great big Transformers arcade game when I found myself in a "ticket-spitter" arcade.  The game cost me about 5 tokens and it was absolutely horrible.  You just move these "crosshairs" around a screen and pull a trigger while a pre-scripted "movie" plays out.  I can't believe this is considered to be progress. 


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Re: Namco is making a new Star Wars Machine
« Reply #13 on: October 08, 2014, 04:00:14 pm »
So...............................................................................................is it even a game?  :lame:

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Re: Namco is making a new Star Wars Machine
« Reply #14 on: October 08, 2014, 04:11:10 pm »
It looks like it's going to be a variation of also released by Namco.
Or if you go further back, Galaxian3.

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Re: Namco is making a new Star Wars Machine
« Reply #15 on: October 08, 2014, 04:13:34 pm »
So...............................................................................................is it even a game?  :lame:

Let's see what the article says .To make things easier, I put the important bits in bold. Let us review, shall we?
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Japanese game-maker Bandai Namco did the almost unthinkable today, it unveiled a brand new Star Wars-themed arcade machine.

At a time when the golden age of arcades is a distant memory, the publisher behind Ace Combat, Dark Souls, Dragon Ball and, yes, Pac-Man, held a nearly hour-long event on the eve of New York Comic-Con to unveil their new machine destined for what few arcades remain.

Star Wars: Battle Pod, is a dome screen arcade system designed to offer gamers ban experience they can "only dream of." It's a game, according to the company, that you don't just play, you experience.

The Battle Pod is a single seat space flight sim that uses a curved screen to drop players into the game, and the movies. Players sit inside the pod, using a flight stick and throttle to fly and fight their way through the Star Wars franchise.

The domed screen works in conjunction with a seat that reacts to explosions, special fans that blow air, vibrating controllers and 5.1 sound. The vibration, air gusts and sound turn the game into an incredible Star Wars "toy," they said.

Settings in the Unreal Engine 3-powered game will include Yavin, Hoth, Endor, the Death Star 2 and players will be able to pilot a snow speeder, X-Wing, speeder bike and the Millennium Falcon. The game will also feature a final "Vader's Revenger" stage which has the Sith lord trying to take out the Death Star in an Advanced TIE Fighter.

The game will start to hit arcades this coming January, but if you're in New York you'll be able to check the game out at the Midtown Dave & Busters. The machines will be there starting tonight until Nov. 2.

I'd say this is slightly more than a rail shooter. I read the article twice to make sure that Smell-o-vision wasn't integrated into their "experience".

Checked out my local redemption place recently and mentally inventoried the non-ticket spitters there. All but three were "Rail shooter" type games. This new Star Wars sounds like it's explicitly designed for that kind of place. A bunch of ---smurfing--- losers shoving 8 tokens into a machine for a 55 second "ride".

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Re: Namco is making a new Star Wars Machine
« Reply #16 on: October 08, 2014, 04:48:05 pm »
Ehh, it could be fun. If I see it, I will definitely give it a try. Not likely though since most of the arcades around here won't carry anything new like this.

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Re: Namco is making a new Star Wars Machine
« Reply #17 on: October 08, 2014, 08:04:53 pm »
I hope it's not like that new batman game.

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Re: Namco is making a new Star Wars Machine
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Re: Namco is making a new Star Wars Machine
« Reply #19 on: October 09, 2014, 08:52:30 am »
Doesn't look that bad, but the voices are wrong.

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Re: Namco is making a new Star Wars Machine
« Reply #20 on: October 09, 2014, 12:26:58 pm »

So an "on rails shooter"  with very specific hardware?  Not unlike any gun game.  There aren't any games around where I am, not until you are about 2.5 hours away.  That is why I am hoping for a PC port.

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Re: Namco is making a new Star Wars Machine
« Reply #21 on: October 09, 2014, 12:36:53 pm »
Looks fun as hell if you ask me.

 :dunno

I only ever saw one Galaxian 3... and they were dismantling the damned thing.   :'(

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Re: Namco is making a new Star Wars Machine
« Reply #22 on: October 09, 2014, 12:44:55 pm »
Star Wars is too little kid oriented after the origional trilogy. Disney even acquired Lucas film in 2012. Not enthused.

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Re: Namco is making a new Star Wars Machine
« Reply #23 on: October 09, 2014, 01:20:10 pm »

I'm not a huge SW fan, but I do have a soft spot for rail shooters.  Panzer Dragoon anyone?

I'm with PBJ.  Looks like a fun game that's pretty well done.  I doubt I'll see one in the flesh, but I would guess that a console / PC version will follow when the arcade revenue dwindles.  It would be great on a projector :)

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Re: Namco is making a new Star Wars Machine
« Reply #24 on: October 09, 2014, 02:52:55 pm »
Hells yeah to a PC port, if they port I'll slap this in Starfighter and rock out.  Looks like it might be the game that Trilogy should have been and lets be honest, I still enjoy Tril even if it is only one layer deep. 

I'm still mad tho that the other Namco shooters like Deadstorm Pirates haven't made it to PC tho.   

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Re: Namco is making a new Star Wars Machine
« Reply #25 on: October 09, 2014, 09:53:18 pm »
I'll play that for a dollar.  Looks awesome. 

Hopefully it will be in Mame before I turn 60.   :cheers:

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Re: Namco is making a new Star Wars Machine
« Reply #26 on: October 10, 2014, 12:45:46 am »
A little too much "rail" for my taste, but I get why they did it, and I will give it a go if the local Dave and Busters gets one. I am just glad it is actually a game at this point. From the press release, it sounded more like one of those "virtual roller coaster" rides. Where they blow wind at you and rock the seat when watching a video.

Anyone else think WTF with the vader's revenge level?

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The game will also feature a final "Vader's Revenge" stage which has the Sith lord trying to take out the Death Star in an Advanced TIE Fighter.

 :dunno

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« Reply #27 on: October 10, 2014, 10:19:28 am »
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Since you can't really fail, the object of the game is to rack up the highest score possible by destroying enemy craft and getting combo bonuses through quick kill streaks.

Kiddie ride.

I like the hardware though.

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Re: Namco is making a new Star Wars Machine
« Reply #28 on: October 10, 2014, 12:03:55 pm »
Looks fun to me.  I would even pay a couple bucks for a 4 minute "ride".  I would love to see a PC port with triple screen support.  I would get off my lazy butt and build my sit down racer cab AND buy a good set of flight controls, just to play a game like this at home, especially if it had some extended game play.  As it is, I bet you couldn't get more than 45 minutes of sequential gameplay out of it before it was just repetitive, but a good, high action space shooter on a wrap around screen would be fun as hell to play. 

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« Reply #29 on: October 10, 2014, 02:31:58 pm »
It would be great on a projector :)
Or the Oculus Rift :)

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Re: Namco is making a new Star Wars Machine
« Reply #30 on: October 10, 2014, 02:37:30 pm »
Or the Oculus Rift :)

You mean like this one?



(FYI, playing Half-Life 2 gives me motion sickness after 45 minutes. It's awesome.)

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Re: Namco is making a new Star Wars Machine
« Reply #31 on: October 10, 2014, 03:43:42 pm »
Or the Oculus Rift :)

The 3D glasses may be a little too immersive for some things.  Great for 1st person stuff, but unless the actual cockpit/forward portion of the vehicle of is rendered (ala certain views from car racing games) and moved relative to head position, the effect wouldn't be optimal.  There's something to be said for wrap around (or very large) screens and having the actual controls and panel visible in the real world for simulations where these are necessary.

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Re: Namco is making a new Star Wars Machine
« Reply #32 on: October 10, 2014, 04:00:09 pm »
For rail games, 3D glasses is perfect. It's actually tough to play full-on FPS' or games that are not on rails or track with the immersion of 3D mainly because of the control scheme. Moving your character's position in 3D space, while looking in another gets really disorienting.

My ex-employer was working on some 3D glasses projects and I was able to playtest a few of them. There was a ski game that was similar to SSX, very tough to master due to the aforementioned issue with disorientation. Another was a Racing type game, which worked out really well with the glasses, and the last was a helicopter simulator (complete with Collective, Cyclic and Antitorque controls) that also worked out really well, though mainly because helicopters don't move too quickly in full 3D space so it was easy for your brain to adjust on-the-fly to the direction/orientation changes.

But a game on rails is definitely the best usage, mainly because you don't have to control your orientation/positioning, it's just look in the direction you want while riding a "rollercoaster".

Battle Pod looks like it's pretty much a rail game, but with a  bit of drift while you're aiming.

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Re: Namco is making a new Star Wars Machine
« Reply #33 on: October 10, 2014, 04:10:22 pm »
For rail games, 3D glasses is perfect. It's actually tough to play full-on FPS' or games that are not on rails or track with the immersion of 3D mainly because of the control scheme. Moving your character's position in 3D space, while looking in another gets really disorienting.

Yes, and no. You can get very used to the whole moving and looking fairly easily, after very little time. The DK2 handles immersion really well. I actually can't wait for EvE: Valkyrie, which I hope serves to be 'the game' to prove the 3D glasses' success.

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Re: Namco is making a new Star Wars Machine
« Reply #34 on: October 10, 2014, 10:10:26 pm »
For rail games, 3D glasses is perfect. It's actually tough to play full-on FPS' or games that are not on rails or track with the immersion of 3D mainly because of the control scheme. Moving your character's position in 3D space, while looking in another gets really disorienting.

Isn't that what you do in real life? :)

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But a game on rails is definitely the best usage, mainly because you don't have to control your orientation/positioning, it's just look in the direction you want while riding a "rollercoaster".

I guess it depends on what you are supposed to be doing in the game.  I tend to think of it being compared to the difference of driving a car, and driving a motorcycle.  The experiences are quite different.  Then again, one segment of the SW game is on a speeder, so not really optimal for a "cockpit" experience either.

But I'll agree that 3D goggles without really good head position tracking, really is best suited for rail type games.  I just believe that the surrounding environment needs to be virtualized, or else it's like driving from a seat mounted on the front bumper of your car ;)

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Re: Namco is making a new Star Wars Machine
« Reply #35 on: October 11, 2014, 03:22:31 pm »
...or else it's like driving from a seat mounted on the front bumper of your car ;)

Man, wouldn't that be a rush though?

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Re: Namco is making a new Star Wars Machine
« Reply #36 on: October 11, 2014, 05:46:22 pm »
Looks like it could be fun.  But I'm soooooo sick of everything Star Wars it's not even funny. :-\

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Re: Namco is making a new Star Wars Machine
« Reply #37 on: October 11, 2014, 06:14:08 pm »
Looks like it might be fun for a little bit but the controls are backwards.

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Re: Namco is making a new Star Wars Machine
« Reply #38 on: October 13, 2014, 05:05:02 am »
I got to play the Gundam pods in Tokyo, all I can say is that I can not wait for this to hit the US.  I was over there with a friend who adores Vectors and early classics, you could not drag the two of us out of those machines.  They are just very well done, you feel like you are in the game.

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Re: Namco is making a new Star Wars Machine
« Reply #39 on: October 16, 2014, 05:25:11 am »
Wow this game looks amazing!!
Star Wars Trilogy is probably my favorite arcade game to play, this one looks just as good.

I have an Oculus DK2 and really don't like it. To be fair it's probably because most of the software for it right now blows but maybe in a couple of generations it will be good.