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CRT Vs LCD for driving cabs
twistedsymphony:
--- Quote from: Howard_Casto on August 22, 2014, 03:05:45 pm ---Also I buy 16:10 (note I didn't say 16:9) monitors and buy them oversized so the "wide" part of the screen goes into the bezel area. Then you get a screen of the same equivalent 4:3 size. I've got that in my original mame cab now... it's not as big of a deal as you are making it out to be. Depending upon the model you might have to de-case it, but we've done worse.
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I looked extensively at swapping 16:10 LCDs into my Virtual On cab (which is a Sega twin unit), even with decasing the math flat out doesn't work in terms of getting the same viewable area.
27" 4:3 CRT has a viewable height of 16.25"
16:10 LCD with a viewable height of 16.25" ~ 31" diagonal with a 26" viewable width
...cabinet only has 24" of usable space width wise due to the design of the cabinet's internal structure... and that's if you want to relocate the speakers wich are on either side of the monitor.
I find your comment surprising because I've yet to find a single cabinet who's dimensions are amicable to a wide-screen (even a 16:10) swap without shrinking image height in the process. Racing cabs seem to be even worse than most because they put such large monitors in them to begin with.
Howard_Casto:
Seriously you are complaining about an inch? I think with mine it was 0.255 inches smaller, but regardless the benefits far outweigh the one drawback.
Here's the thing. Something about this hobby that people don't realize is that these uber large monitors are actually bad for your eyes where we sit so close to them. In the arcade you are playing for a minute or two, no big deal, but when you are playing for hours at a time your eyes have to dart around to see the whole screen causing eye strain. I had a 27 inch crammed into my mame cab for a while and couldn't figure out why it was hurting my eyes. When I later put a 25 inch crt in there I immediately noticed the difference.
But it doesn't matter... we've derailed flash's post and I'm sorry for that.
twistedsymphony:
--- Quote from: Howard_Casto on August 25, 2014, 07:23:33 pm ---Seriously you are complaining about an inch?
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You need to check your math 24" of width space in a 16:9 monitor translates to a 24" 4:3 image in what used to be a 27" cab.
I realize you're all about "upgrading" things but when it comes to arcade games, I, and many others are all about making the experience as authentic as possible.
dkersten:
You are correct about the height, but I agree with Howard on all the other points. At some point you have to weigh the pros and cons and decide for yourself.
That is when you take a 48" lcd and turn it vertical and then black out the top and bottom to get the max width and height with all the benefits of an LCD for racing games while still fitting in your 24"wide space, lol.
It really isn't a matter of which is "better", it is a matter of which is "better for you".
twistedsymphony:
--- Quote from: dkersten on August 26, 2014, 12:16:43 pm ---That is when you take a 48" lcd and turn it vertical and then black out the top and bottom to get the max width and height with all the benefits of an LCD for racing games while still fitting in your 24"wide space, lol.
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That's rarely a viable solution because on most machines the marquee is directly above the monitor and the steering controls are directly below it. Even on non-racing upright cabs there is usually some substantial cabinet reinforcement directly below the monitor area, or the monitor is angled such that the bottom of such a large monitor would run into the control panel box.
--- Quote from: dkersten on August 26, 2014, 12:16:43 pm ---You are correct about the height, but I agree with Howard on all the other points. At some point you have to weigh the pros and cons and decide for yourself.
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It really isn't a matter of which is "better", it is a matter of which is "better for you".
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I never said that CRTs were universally better than LCDs, I don't think anyone else in this thread is claiming that either. My only point through this entire discussion has been that in order for LCDs to be a 100% replacement in a cabinet that was designed for a CRT it needs to be in a 4:3 form factor... THATS IT...
fitting a wide-screen LCD into a cabinet designed for a 4:3 CRT has a lot of challenges that usually leaves you with less viewable screen area and/or giant ugly black out bezels. This isn't about the technology, it's purely about using the right parts to fit the cabinet. If they started making 27" 4:3 LCDs tomorrow I'd order a 6 of them and retrofit half my arcade collection. Widescreen monitors simply wont fit properly most cabs (ei: in a way that looks factory, and form-fit to the cab)... flash951's cab included.
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