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CRT Vs LCD for driving cabs
dkersten:
It is arguable that any time you replace the guts of an arcade you have already sacrificed "originality" and you no longer can truly stand on the argument of a "100%" replacement.
It's like saying that you HAVE to use the original tires and wheels on that 67 mustang you are restoring, even though you put a Chevy 350 motor and drive train in it. Your argument can't be won because it is a matter of taste and opinion.
I wasn't trying to fuel the argument, just to point out that this is a very subjective choice and it is what matters most to you that will decide which way you should go.
Personally I think that the height of the "play field" is the only factor that would influence my decision any more. And with most race games supporting wider aspect ratios (and in some cases requiring it), it isn't as clear of a decision as it might be if you were making a reproduction of one specific arcade game. I am with you on buying and using 4:3 27" LCD's though, for anything arcade that is what I would pick first if it existed, but it doesn't, so you compromise. :cheers:
BadMouth:
I had a CRT TV in the old driving cab connected via S-video and it was a blast to play.
The next incarnation (if it's ever completed) will use an LCD or three.
With the CRT TV, it did feel more authentic and gave me the same feeling as playing in the arcade.
PC games up through about 2005-2006 also looked and played great on it (old NFS series, Outrun C2C).
On newer games I felt like I was at a disadvantage because of not being able to see as far into turns.
They're still playable, but that and the widescreen support in Model 2/3 are my main reasons for moving on.
LCDs aren't without their issues. The screen blur bugs me sometimes and screen tearing is just obnoxious.
The tearing can usually be fixed with vsync, but not always.
In the end, it's a personal decision. Given the choice between a 4:3 monitor and 16:9 monitor of the same width at the same distance, I'd probably choose the 4:3 for the sake of having more screen area in my field of view.
DGP:
23.1 4:3 LCD...
http://www.ebay.com/itm/PLANAR-WS231-23-1-LCD-1600x1200-with-Power-Cord-/231159641244?pt=Computer_Monitors&hash=item35d230349c
:dunno
Jason
Howard_Casto:
Nice find.
I kind of get by twistedsymphony's response that he thinks lcds should be a drop in replacement. Yeah that's not what I meant. Nothing could be further from the truth. It takes a lot of work to retro-fit a lcd into a classic cab, you are going to have to ditch the bezel and make a custom one, you might have to relocate the speakers, ect. My point though was at least for a general purpose racing cab, it's well worth it.
I mean this is all personal preference in terms of what games you like, but for me (and I'm thinking a lot of people) classic arcade racers don't hold up as well as more modern racing games. In terms of the old stuff, that is going to be in 4:3 in mame, you've got Outrun and it's sequels, maybe the Crus'n games, Ridge racer and that's about it. Yeah there are some other classics, but they either need a optical wheel, or you won't play for more than 2-3 minutes at a time. In terms of arcade stuff, what most people (myself included) want to play is model 2 and beyond. Well all of those games support widescreen.
It isn't just an aesthetic change either.... when you switch to 16:9 you can see more to the left and the right, they don't crop out the sky but rather widen the horizon. It effects gameplay. I'm not trying to be "that guy" but while you might get more image on a 4:3 in the same space, a lot of that image might not actually be useful for gameplay.
And even putting those aside you are going to want to play at least some pc games on your rig and because the draw distance and everything else expect a widescreen, high-resolution monitor it would probably be worth it to upgrade for that single game if you like it enough.
I guess what I'm saying is for a general purpose mame cab chances are 90% of what you'll play on it are actual arcade games that ran on a low resolution, 4:3 monitor. On a racing cab it's typically more general purpose use. The time spent playing 4:3 games on it might be less than 30%.
dkersten:
That Planar 4:3 is easily the biggest 4:3 LCD available , but it has 2 big problems. First, that bezel is nearly 2 inches wide on each side. Second, they are out of production and hard to find one without bad pixels. But if you are limited to under 24" of width, you won't get a taller LCD. (it is taller than a 16:10 24" panel by just over an inch)
If your cab is 25" or wider you can get a 27" LCD and then you are splitting hairs as the difference in height is negligible, and quality and availability are worlds better.
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