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CRT Emu setup problem
« on: March 03, 2020, 07:46:55 pm »
Monitor: Nanao MS8 29FSG
Radeon HD 7570 SFF
Hooked up from the DVI-I to VGA to jpac/jamma

Followed the instruction guide found on geedorah forum however at the end where I hit the "enable edid emulation" the image on the Nanao monitor displays a mess which I have no idea why.
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Re: CRT Emu setup problem
« Reply #1 on: March 04, 2020, 06:17:58 pm »
Assuming the Nanao is known-working, are the dip switches set right? The only info I can find is in the link below. It looks like those monitors handle 15kHz/24kHz by swapping some sort of harness on the chassis. The sync input is controlled by the two dip switches, sync neg/pos and separate/comp input. The EDID emulation will turn on a 15kHz 480i mode, but i'm not sure about sync.

https://www.aussiearcade.com/forum/arcade/arcade-technical-and-repair-questions/monitor-and-chassis-repair-help/2963-need-assistance-with-26-nanao-monitor

There’s an MS8 thread right below yours, so you could ask bubmlechump for his dip settings, I guess? http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php/topic,162118.0.html

If that doesn’t fix you up - once you enable EDID emulation, does windows display properties show two monitors, the Dell at 1440p and one called Arcade15 at 480i? Can you get to that monitor with ArcadeOSD? To do that I think you load ArcadeOSD, look at the title bar and note the display number (//display1)) then hit 2 to change displays (it will go to the screen not plugged in) then hit 1 to lock to the display it’s being shown on, then hit 2 again and you should be able to see the ArcadeOSD interface again. It should now be on //display2. Now try setting the resolution. You may need to start installing more modelines before you can do this.

Also, the MS8’s are reputed to be pretty sensitive. With the 15kHz band stick to 15.5kHz to 16kHz. Don’t ever go over 16kHz flat, even briefly, even during boot. And stick to a vertical range of 54-60FPS. The damage you can do is cumulative, but you won’t notice until critical failure.
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Re: CRT Emu setup problem
« Reply #2 on: March 04, 2020, 09:35:13 pm »
Messaged the user to try to see if the dip settings may differ.

I tried running the osd method but no dice.

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Re: CRT Emu setup problem
« Reply #3 on: March 04, 2020, 09:45:56 pm »
Hey! I've been summoned!

For the Nanao MS8 29FSG, there aren't any dip switches. Just 2 modes, 15khz and 24khz. This is switched by unplugging the yoke cable on the chassis.

Look at page 80-83 here:

https://www.arcade-museum.com/manuals-videogames/D/Daytona%201%20USA1.pdf

Bubbles 21 and 22 show the spots where you can change the resolution. But based on your screenshot, it looks like you didn't enable composite sync on vmm maker? Disable the emulation, turn that on, and turn the emulation back on.

Let us know if this works!